Metallica thread

[Skeletor]

whatever guys..try to be happy for me..lol...its gonna be agood show

Hey - we don't dispute that - they play the old stuff!

Even that doesn't work for me anymore.. I don't know, it was just a fairly boring show, even though the setlist was awesome. I saw them at a stadium with 46 000 people though, maybe it would've been nicer in a smaller setting.

What also vexes me is that I don't think much of the guys anymore, and that takes something away from the show as well. When you regard the musicians in front of you as stupid losers, it makes it a bit harder to try and enjoy the music.

[Miz]

Lars is a prick.  I have more respect for Busted.

[Malcolm]

Lars is one of the best drummers of all time...and ya Metallica wanted to try something new with St.Anger...i dont agree with it..but theyve got the fame to do it..we dont...they know how to make music...we dont...and its in toronto and toronto usually always has good crowds

[Skeletor]

they know how to make music

That's the whole point: seems that James and Lars have lost their touch, they don't know how to make music anymore.

[Walk]

You guys are joking! Lar's never had a "touch".  He was always the least talented member of Metallica. The only way Metallica could ever gain credibility again is if they pretended they never released anything after ...And Justice For All. Even the Black Album.

[Malcolm]

come on man give them some respect...Fuel is an awsome tune..Until It sleeps..Hero of the day..there good tunes..

and u cant say they dont have it anymore..the montreal show sold out in three hours.

If you ask me there kinda like the stones...no one goes to see them play the new tunes..just the old ones..but that dosent mean they dont have it anymore

[Dave_Rose]

I caught the end of Metallica at Download Nothing Else Matters and Enter Sandman rock live

[Hammy]

Just to add more fuel to the fire here's a review from knac.com of the EP:

Not having made quite enough money yet, Metallica is now looking to rake it in at the box office. And the peasants wept.

Some Kind of Monster is an EP, which used to stand for Extended Play -- back in the days of vinyl, EPs were sort of like singles, (only with three or four songs instead of two) hence the "extended." Unfortunately in the days of the compact disc, EP has come to stand for Enhanced Price. Vinyl EPs were often printed on 10-inch discs, midway between the single's 7-inch and the LP's 12-inch size. With CD technology, physical size doesn't matter anymore, and so an EP is just an excuse to jack a few more dollars out of the fans when you don't have enough material for a full album.
 
Compounding Metallica's complicity in this shameless flood of merchandising is the material on the disc. Two versions of the title track sandwich a half-dozen live cuts of songs from the days when Metallica was something more potent than a vehicle for inflating Lars Ulrich's bank balance.

The tracks were recorded in Paris in 2003, and include "The Four Horsemen," "Motorbreath" and "Hit The Lights," from 1983's Kill 'Em All, and the title track from 1984's Ride The Lightning and "Damage Inc." and Leper Messiah" from 1986's Master of Puppets.

That Metallica no longer makes music of this complexity and power, and has in fact distanced themselves from their earlier work, apparently makes no difference, nor does the fact that the band could as easily have released an entire live album from the Paris shows and given the fans a considerably larger bang for their buck. In fact, it's the new song, "Some Kind Of Monster," that illustrates most pointedly what's gone wrong. It's basically a rap metal track, and it shows that the band is so far gone it's trying to cash in on a trend that's already dead.

Indeed, where it was once a snarling and fearsome beast, Metallica has become "Some Kind of Monster"... a money monster -- instead of a musical monster.

More's the pity.

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[campos]

[Walk]

You guys who bash Justice need to give it another good listen, and really listen to it. It's Metallica's best album. Puppets was loaded with crap like Leper Messiah and The Thing That Should Not Be, and Disposable Heroes is an 8 minute song that should have only lasted 4 minutes. Lars is a loser for thinking St. Anger is better than Justice.

I think Metallica was getting better even after Cliff died. That's the sad thing about their selling out. They didn't have to. They could have continued to make great thrash.

[Mattman]

You guys who bash Justice need to give it another good listen, and really listen to it. It's Metallica's best album. Puppets was loaded with crap like Leper Messiah and The Thing That Should Not Be, and Disposable Heroes is an 8 minute song that should have only lasted 4 minutes.

The Thing That Should Not Be and Disposable Heroes are GREAT songs, especially the latter, which is a thrash epic if I ever heard one.  Master Of Puppets and Justice are both ambitious, but MOP has better solos, better production, better riffs, AND is less self-indulgent.  Show me a Justice track and I can give you a Master of Puppets track that betters it.  I mean, you can't tell me that "To Live Is To Die", a long, grooveless bore, is a better instrumental than "Orion", which has good atmosphere and a great outro solo.  "Battery" is a far superior album opener to "Blackened", which is sort of like an attempt to repeat "Fight Fire With Fire" thematically.  "Master Of Puppets" is obviously a better title track than that of "...And Justice For All."  And finally....on Master Of Puppets, you can hear the bass.  And what a bass player.

[Eeebs]

You know, I have never been a real fan of Metallica.  I am not familiar with their work, or any of their albums.  However, I am interested in seeing this film (bad review and all ).  I think it would give an interesting look at the inner workings of a band relationship... I would also like to see those band / psychiatrist sessions.  Yeah... hopefully I will see this movie soon.  It looks like it could be a good one.  Then again, from what I understand, Metallica is known as somewhat as a sell out sorta deal... so... yeah! 

[GNR_Green]

The link won't work for me - Sludge have changed their website it seems?

[Miz]

The link won't work for me - Sludge have changed their website it seems?

No, you're just not Metal enough.

[Dave_Rose]

Ian Robinson is a fat nerd sorry but he is

[Duff_McKagen]

Have you been ripped off by buying St. Anger? 
Does it financially scar you? 
Does it embarass you? 

If so, don't put up with this anymore, head on to www.encycmet.com on the forums and complain away, me and many others have had fun doing so.

[Justgoneforaslash]

I really hate St anger, it sucks balls,  ive been on that metallica site and it is fun mentally battering metallica fans

[Duff_McKagen]

Metallica are idiots apart from Kirk and Robert Trujillo, I have way more respect for Jason Newsted than Lars and Lames.

[Walk]

No. Spamming about a bad album is just stupid. I bet all the fans on that site hate St. Anger just as much as you do.

[Wheres Izzy]

spamming and battering metallica fans is stupid. Besides with the 10 billion delays on chinese democracy what is it they say about people who live in glass houses? That's right you shouldn't shit! cause everyone can see you. Not sure that expression applies here but I am sure it works somehow. I have always listened to metallica tho and the root idea of thsi thread is right-st anger is atrocious. I am not sure if I have played it since the day I bought it.