The Third Guitarist Question (should Buckethead rejoin or maybe even Slash?)

[yorkie81]

Has Finck confirmed he is still in GnR?

[Butch Français]

Im sure by now they either have the replacement, or they will play with only Finck and Fortus. cos it's pretty much too late for a new guy to come in now and join them in NY in a few weeks.
if that was to happen, he would have to be a freaking guitar genious like nobody else, who could learn Buckets parts in no time..oh yeah, and he would have to start rehearsing with the band in the next few days if he was to have any chance of playing all the stuff, no matter how good he is.

[Dr. Blutarsky]

at this pont the decision is made, we just don't know what has been decided, guess we'll find out in May.

[SourBaby]

No Way... He could be but I don't want things to explode again like they did last time..

[Reinaldo]

We have only 2 options:
Fortus will play BH solos. Izzy or Huge on rythm.
New guitar player to play BH.

[ShotgunBlues1978]

IMO there's nobody who can replace Buckethead in regards to both songwriting and playing.  Buckethead sets himself apart from other shredders and virtuosos because unlike most he is a great songwriter and is so versatile and melodic when he makes the decision to play that way.  But there are guitarists who could replace him just from the technical side.  We've heard rumors of John 5, Michael Angelo Batio, and others replacing Big B live.  They are all players who can match Buckethead in the technical skill category.  But who should it be, and who can do it?  I can't think of all that many players who could replace him technically, but I'm not really a virtuoso buff. 

The best scenario I dreamed up is that Axl has hired some unknown kid who can slay the axe like noneother, but that nobody has ever heard of.  I've met people who can slaughter the guitar but have never gotten any recognition, it would be quite cool if Axl just picked some kid up who was an unknown but can play like a beast 

The fact is Finck and Fortus can't play Bucket's parts.  They are both talented and skilled players and songwriters, but Buckethead's precision and technical abilities are simply on another playing field

[nesquick]

We have only 2 options:
Fortus will play BH solos. Izzy or Huge on rythm.
New guitar player to play BH.

or another one (the most likely for the momment): Fortus + Finck will switch off guitar parts (lead and rythm). 50/50. Good deal.
Besides, who knows if the BH parts haven't been changed since the demos? It may have happened lots of changements since the demos. You all are like "the band needs a shredder to play the BH solos", but maybe these solos are no longer on the final versions.... we don't know.
I guess that if they haven't hired a new guy yet, maybe it's because they don't really need one. I don't think it's vital for the band.

[ShotgunBlues1978]

We have only 2 options:
Fortus will play BH solos. Izzy or Huge on rythm.
New guitar player to play BH.

or another one (the most likely for the momment): Fortus + Finck will switch off guitar parts (lead and rythm). 50/50. Good deal.
Besides, who knows if the BH parts haven't been changed since the demos? It may have happened lots of changements since the demos. You all are like "the band needs a shredder to play the BH solos", but maybe these solos are no longer on the final versions.... we don't know.
I guess is they haven't hired a new guy yet, maybe it's because they don't really need one. I don't think it's vital for the band.

Well nesquick, I know you don't like Big B, but Dizzy and Tommy both concurred that Buckethead's parts would remain on the album.  His parts are not easy to rewrite, or delete.  He made major contributions to IRS, TWAT and Better at least. 

[nesquick]

major contribution to IRS? he just plays 10 seconds on the song.

[ShotgunBlues1978]

major contribution to IRS? he just plays 10 seconds on the song.

And yet the Axl Scream + Buckethead Solo are agreed upon as one of if not the best moment in the new GnR songs by most fans.  IMO, the "It's a crime, you know it's truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuue" combined with Bucket solo is in fact the coolest musical part of all the new songs, besides of course Finck's "Better" solo and Buckethead's outro on "TWAT".  Axl's vocals on all the new songs are MASSIVE, but these are the best guitar parts IMO.  And after witnessing MSG 2002  and several BHead showslive, I'm convicned Buckethead is the man.  The NR outro with Bucket blows the doors off any of the Finck/Fortus '02 solos, and the Nigthtrain BH solo was one of the coolest solos I've ever heard by any man

[Jonathan]

major contribution to IRS? he just plays 10 seconds on the song.

10 seconds? How do you know that?

I'm pretty sure he's the one who plays the guitar parts on the song with Robin.

[ShotgunBlues1978]

major contribution to IRS? he just plays 10 seconds on the song.

10 seconds? How do you know that?

I'm pretty sure he's the one who plays the guitar parts on the song with Robin.

And even if Big B only played 10 seconds, it's still one of the best 10 second stretches in NuGnR's lineage.  That "It's a crime you know it's truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuue" stretch is one of the cooles GnR sets that's occurred since 1993

[WARose]

We have only 2 options:
Fortus will play BH solos. Izzy or Huge on rythm.
New guitar player to play BH.

or another one (the most likely for the momment): Fortus + Finck will switch off guitar parts (lead and rythm). 50/50. Good deal.
Besides, who knows if the BH parts haven't been changed since the demos? It may have happened lots of changements since the demos. You all are like "the band needs a shredder to play the BH solos", but maybe these solos are no longer on the final versions.... we don't know.
I guess is they haven't hired a new guy yet, maybe it's because they don't really need one. I don't think it's vital for the band.

Well nesquick, I know you don't like Big B, but Dizzy and Tommy both concurred that Buckethead's parts would remain on the album.  His parts are not easy to rewrite, or delete.  He made major contributions to IRS, TWAT and Better at least. 

well.... all those songs (except for better which bucket wrote), were written around 1998-2000. bucket wasn`t even in the band then and he just recorded some solos for them.  i really like his IRS solo, but the best "part" of that song is the whole melody and axl`s lyrics by the way.... of course he`s a loss in regards of writing ability though. it`s just, that robin finck is the most important part of this new gnr

there are many possibilities....

it`s possible that the pre-bucket versions of the songs will be released on CD, bucket`s work stays.. or some parts were rerecorded....  we`ll see.... i don`t give a shit what dizzy said one year ago

[WARose]

since 1993

wait for the album dudes....or at least for the new york shows

[Mr.Intensity]

8 days until this question is answered. 

[killingvector]

Bitter enemies, Mr. I?

I never thought Bucket could have an enemy; he is such a gentle person.

[Mr.Intensity]

Bitter enemies, Mr. I?

I never thought Bucket could have an enemy; he is such a gentle person.

Quote was from a tech of his.... it seemed he was very sure of the situation. The tech also said "the work buckethead did for that album was amazing, I wonder if that idiot Axl is going to use.." etc... he seemed to be very anti-axl and I went along with it just to see how much I could get out of him. I acted like I was tottaly on B.H's side.

[brobot]

I still laugh when I think of Axl's press release about Buckethead where he calls him inconsistent, erratic and the source of uncertainity and confusion. The hypocrisy is stunning. Uncertainity and confusion? I guess he means kind of like we're all feeling with no press release, release date, lineup, and threads wondering if the shows will be cancelled or not. Don't get me wrong - I'm still a fan - I've invested a lot of money on going to the NY shows next week - but if they get cancelled or end early, only one person is responsible - and I'm not referring to a random fan who takes a photo or wears the wrong t-shirt.

http://www.gawker.com/topic/worst_press_release_axl_rose_v_buckethead_014497.php

[Ines_rocks!]

what if theres no 3rd guitarist??

[speed-stone]

what if theres no 3rd guitarist??

then i'm sure richard and robin can handle their duties alone