Would Velvet Have Done Better With Josh Todd?

[Rob]

Dont you think Baz was cheesy doing the head banging and holding his clenched fist in the air while singing? He has all the moves of Steel Dragon from Rock Star. Not very original there.

What the hell is cheesy about that.  If that's what he does when he's getting into the music then that's what he does.  There's nothing wrong with headbanging.  Bach is an awesome live frontman.

[Neemo]

Dont you think Baz was cheesy doing the head banging and holding his clenched fist in the air while singing? He has all the moves of Steel Dragon from Rock Star. Not very original there.

What the hell is cheesy about that.? If that's what he does when he's getting into the music then that's what he does.? There's nothing wrong with headbanging.? Bach is an awesome live frontman.

and Bach was rocking the world with Skid Row long before the Rock Star movie was even thought of

[da_pope]

Steel Dragon had some good songs. 

[TheMole]

I had never heard of Buckcherry before... they certainly haven't broken any records here in Belgium...
I just watched Lit Up and Crazy Bitch on youtube... those are some mediocre songs. Don't get me wrong, they're fun to listen to, raw, rock'n'roll and whatnot; but they are all pretty basic variations on some standard blues oriented rock riffs. Nicely done, but nothing you're average local, bar playing, middle-aged, amateur band can't do (better). Gotta love the style and image though! And thumbs up to the lead guitarist for some nice solo's too...

Not an STP fan or anything, but weiland has better songwriting abilities than the buckcherry guy and he has proven that. As for being a better frontman, dunno... Josh Toddler might seem less of '' to the mainstream public but in the end we've all come to expect something, I dunno, 'more' from Slash N' Duff than average bluesrock, right? In that respect, I'm happy that they chose Scott... Josh seems more fit for a 'Slash's Bluesball' kind of endeavour -> kickass fun rock; not for a real music project like VR.

[mikegiuliana]

lit up & crazy bitch are great bar tunes, kind of throw money in the juke box get drunk with friends and have a good time.. unlike pc or scom where the entire bar is singing along..

[michaelvincent]

cause u like a CD and a guys style, that doesnt make them HUGE in the whole scope of the musical landscape.

Hahahaha, in keeping with that line of thinking I'd like to point out that none of you have heard a note of the album Chinese Democracy but it doesn't stop some of you retards from hailing it as the album that will revolutionize rock and sell a quarter billion albums.

Weiland is in VR because it's a good business move. He's a great singer, and was part of one the 90's biggest band. Josh Todd would have been a better singer if they were just looking to milk GnR's past glory by totally copying it but something tells me they didn't think an 80's revival band would have been quite as popular.

As for Patton, well...I remember a year where you couldn't turn on mtv without seeing the video for epic. It got just as much play as November Rain or You Could Be Mine did when they were out. Just because Patton chooses not to be part of mainstream hit making chart topping music doesnt' make him less of a singer. Weiland and Todd aren't fit to lick his asshole when it comes to pure singing ability. Actually, neither is Axl to be honest. Patton just doesn't have the big rock guy frontman personality which obviously makes him a bad choice for a group looking to top the charts.

[Locomotive98]

for all the weiland fans bashing buckcherry for not being able to write songs... could someone please tell me what the hell wieland is talking about in this verse?

Hands are shakin got your finger on the trigger
Jesus ain't complainin gonna figure it out
Somebody raped my tapeworm abortion
Come on motherfuckers and deliver the cow

i think more sensible things have come out helen keller's mouth.. i'll take a song about sex, drugs or rock n roll over that crap any day..? infact that verse... might be the worst verse in any song ever.. what a waste of great music created by slash and the boys

Lol, I always think they are amongst the worst lyrics ever as well. Whats it all about? Christ, sometimes I can even listen to that album because of the atrocious lyrics. See.... Big machine, Spectacle, Suckertain Blues, well, most of it actually. Its quite apparent the man is on drugs. And not ones that id care to indulge in either thx. Whats he on ketamine?

[mikegiuliana]

why is everyone obsessed with lyrics, can't you just rock out to music without thinking about words..  I do it with so many things like metallica, or ac/dc.. I like to just have a good time, I think ballads should make some sence..

[Locomotive98]

But its nice to go to a gig, or the shower or whatever and have a singsong, I cant do that when the lyrics are so toe-curlingly embarrassing.

Dont get me wrong tho, Contraband rocks, and the ballads are actually pretty good lyric wise.

[mikegiuliana]

But its nice to go to a gig, or the shower or whatever and have a singsong, I cant do that when the lyrics are so toe-curlingly embarrassing.

Dont get me wrong tho, Contraband rocks, and the ballads are actually pretty good lyric wise.

When I saw vr a few times I was singing big machine, it was so fucking fun live.. Maybe not  agreat album song but kicks ass live.. I think he's just one fo those wacky guys that uses words that aren't direct.. You have to kind of sit there and think about it..

[jabba2]

for all the weiland fans bashing buckcherry for not being able to write songs... could someone please tell me what the hell wieland is talking about in this verse?

Hands are shakin got your finger on the trigger
Jesus ain't complainin gonna figure it out
Somebody raped my tapeworm abortion
Come on motherfuckers and deliver the cow

i think more sensible things have come out helen keller's mouth.. i'll take a song about sex, drugs or rock n roll over that crap any day..? infact that verse... might be the worst verse in any song ever.. what a waste of great music created by slash and the boys

Lol, I always think they are amongst the worst lyrics ever as well. Whats it all about? Christ, sometimes I can even listen to that album because of the atrocious lyrics. See.... Big machine, Spectacle, Suckertain Blues, well, most of it actually. Its quite apparent the man is on drugs. And not ones that id care to indulge in either thx. Whats he on ketamine?

You know NUGNR lyrics arent nothing to write home about for something that has been worked on since 94 either. TWAT has some ordinary lyrics as does IRS.

[ShotgunBlues1978]

You know NUGNR lyrics arent nothing to write home about for something that has been worked on since 94 either. TWAT has some ordinary lyrics as does IRS.

TWAT and The Blues have some of the best lyrics of any GnR songs.  Saying they've been worked on since 1994 is disingenous too, since those songs haven't been worked on since then you have no idea how long it took Axl to write the lyrics for any of the new songs