Would Velvet Have Done Better With Josh Todd?

[leesixxrose]

but stp is a million times more accomplished and successfull then BC, how does scott suck.. His songs are played day in and day out on the radio till this day...? You might hear lit up if someone requests it... you can't even say well new kids or nsync had tons of radio play because once their trend was over you heard nothing of their music.....

Coz STP was a Radio friendly pop/grunge band.....Thats why they were on the radio.. has nothing to do with who is more successfull or accomplished... It depends on who your target audiunce is... STP wrote radio and video friendly songs/albums...

BC's only "hit" was about snorting coke ... hmmm... Imagine trying to get "dirty mind" or "Slit my wrists" on the radio.... it wouldnt happen....?

BC have a VERY large base of fans and that says alot for not getting alot of radio play.. thats the way it should be in imo....

If josh joined vr you'd all be like he's trying to be like axl

And that is why i wouldnt like to see him in VR.... I think they would have made a bad ass band with Josh but like i said VR wil always be compared to GnR and who ever they have as a front man is "axl's replacement for the original GnR"

Josh Todd doesnt need this kind of drama that would come with being in VR... He has been and is true to his own music and to BC.

Buckcherry are more like AFD era Guns n Roses than Velvet Revolver are....
Pure, Energized dangerous Sunset Rock n Roll.

both are good bands and Josh with VR would have made good music but the drama would make it suck dick.

[jabba2]

Lit Up isnt even a very good song. I dont understand the hype Buckcherry gets. Well actually Buckcherry gets zero hype outside of message boards. There videos suck so do most of their songs.

Buckcherry have no comparison to STP or any other 90's band.

[mikegiuliana]

Coz STP was a Radio friendly pop/grunge band.....Thats why they were on the radio.. has nothing to do with who is more successfull or accomplished... It depends on who your target audiunce is... STP wrote radio and video friendly songs/albums...

BC's only "hit" was about snorting coke ... hmmm... Imagine trying to get "dirty mind" or "Slit my wrists" on the radio.... it wouldnt happen....?

BC have a VERY large base of fans and that says alot for not getting alot of radio play.. thats the way it should be in imo....

Listen every song on the radio is radio friendly.. What was scom or pc or wttj or nr or ycbm..? Stp had very good songs and people loved them it's that simple.. The point is they have had longevity, how many bands can say they have 5, 6 7 songs on constant rotation on classic rock radio stations..
Where is the rule that says you are a true success if you are underground or not mainstream as you'd like that you are doing it the right way..

Then GN'R is the biggest fraud cause they were mtv's bitch all through the 80's and early 90's, but wasn't their music still great..

[mikegiuliana]

Lit Up isnt even a very good song. I dont understand the hype Buckcherry gets. Well actually Buckcherry gets zero hype outside of message boards. There videos suck so do most of their songs.

Buckcherry have no comparison to STP or any other 90's band.

Buckcherry has 1 known song that has long fizzled out in longevity...  STP has accomplished 1000xs what josh todd could ever dream of.. These abdns that can't become big mainstream or get in one year out the other the fans always say they like ti better underground or they don't want to be mainstream.. It's crock they all want to sell tons of records and be big./

[leesixxrose]

Lit Up isnt even a very good song. I dont understand the hype Buckcherry gets. Well actually Buckcherry gets zero hype outside of message boards. There videos suck so do most of their songs.

Buckcherry have no comparison to STP or any other 90's band.

Buckcherry has 1 known song that has long fizzled out in longevity...? STP has accomplished 1000xs what josh todd could ever dream of.. These abdns that can't become big mainstream or get in one year out the other the fans always say they like ti better underground or they don't want to be mainstream.. It's crock they all want to sell tons of records and be big./

BC did sell tons of records and they are big...

[leesixxrose]

Coz STP was a Radio friendly pop/grunge band.....Thats why they were on the radio.. has nothing to do with who is more successfull or accomplished... It depends on who your target audiunce is... STP wrote radio and video friendly songs/albums...

BC's only "hit" was about snorting coke ... hmmm... Imagine trying to get "dirty mind" or "Slit my wrists" on the radio.... it wouldnt happen....?

BC have a VERY large base of fans and that says alot for not getting alot of radio play.. thats the way it should be in imo....

Listen every song on the radio is radio friendly.. What was scom or pc or wttj or nr or ycbm..? Stp had very good songs and people loved them it's that simple.. The point is they have had longevity, how many bands can say they have 5, 6 7 songs on constant rotation on classic rock radio stations..
Where is the rule that says you are a true success if you are underground or not mainstream as you'd like that you are doing it the right way..

Then GN'R is the biggest fraud cause they were mtv's bitch all through the 80's and early 90's, but wasn't their music still great..

either way that you wanna say it or break it down.. they were both great bands and i prefer Josh in BC over VR for the reasons i stated earlier. and i think Scot is a total poser. look at how many "images" hes tried to go for... first hes a grunge, then hes a rocker, then a punk and now hes david bowie....

[mikegiuliana]

I don't care what he looks like or acts he has long said his influences are frontmen like iggy and bowie.. As long as he sings and does his thing I am happy..

[jabba2]

BC did sell tons of records and they are big...

Buckcherry is not big and Josh Todd writes terrible lyrics. i cant believe you would make fun of Scott then pretend Josh Todd is better. Check the video "ridin" on Yahoo music. Actually check all their videos. They look like they were done with a 1995 sony camcorder. Im supposed to think they are big?

[leesixxrose]

BC did sell tons of records and they are big...

Buckcherry is not big and Josh Todd writes terrible lyrics. i cant believe you would make fun of Scott then pretend Josh Todd is better. Check the video "ridin" on Yahoo music. Actually check all their videos. They look like they were done with a 1995 sony camcorder. Im supposed to think they are big?

i have seen the videos... If you dont like em or think that they were big good for u.. im not gonna try to convince you how big or great they are.. but you know enough about them to know thier songs and videos....   Im not "pretending" anything... Josh Todd is a better singer, songwriter than Scott is... Its my opinion

[jabba2]

BC did sell tons of records and they are big...

Buckcherry is not big and Josh Todd writes terrible lyrics. i cant believe you would make fun of Scott then pretend Josh Todd is better. Check the video "ridin" on Yahoo music. Actually check all their videos. They look like they were done with a 1995 sony camcorder. Im supposed to think they are big?

i have seen the videos... If you dont like em or think that they were big good for u.. im not gonna try to convince you how big or great they are.. but you know enough about them to know thier songs and videos....? ?Im not "pretending" anything... Josh Todd is a better singer, songwriter than Scott is... Its my opinion

Actualy i never heard of Buckcherry until visiting GNR and other message boards 2 years ago. I knew Lit Up when it was on radio, but i didnt care who the band was. The song is mediocre because of bad lyrics.

[leesixxrose]

BC did sell tons of records and they are big...

Buckcherry is not big and Josh Todd writes terrible lyrics. i cant believe you would make fun of Scott then pretend Josh Todd is better. Check the video "ridin" on Yahoo music. Actually check all their videos. They look like they were done with a 1995 sony camcorder. Im supposed to think they are big?

i have seen the videos... If you dont like em or think that they were big good for u.. im not gonna try to convince you how big or great they are.. but you know enough about them to know thier songs and videos....? ?Im not "pretending" anything... Josh Todd is a better singer, songwriter than Scott is... Its my opinion

Actualy i never heard of Buckcherry until visiting GNR and other message boards 2 years ago. I knew Lit Up when it was on radio, but i didnt care who the band was. The song is mediocre because of bad lyrics.

Thats too bad... you should check em out if your a GnR fan you might like em.... check out "Dirty mind" on the 1st album... the entire album is good.

[Super-Ecwfan1]

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Its a week old but at blabbermouth.net an artcile is up detailing that Josh Todd ( Buckcherry) and Kieth Nelson in 2001 after thier band had broke up , became involved in what would become Velvet Revolver. I remember others in my record store detailing the story of how Todd and Slash jammed to a cover of " Welcome to the Jungle " back in 2001 or 2002 .

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I sadly can't help but wonder what might have been had McKagen and Slash not let Todd go . Would the team up with part of Buckcherry been awesome or been better than Velvet Revolver ?? What do you think ?

[Neemo]

I think Weiland is a better singer/songwriter than Todd.....so no i don't think it would've been as good.

Weiland did alot af arranging and prodcuing on Contraband didn't he? And love him or hate him....Weiland is contorversial and outspoken....he brings alot of attention to VR

[JDA]

Weiland was and is the best choice for VR.

[the dirt]

I would have prefered it if Josh and Keith joined up with the ex-gunners.

[tomass74]

Not sure if I have chimed in on this post that just won't die but Weiland is a great frontman... Buckcherry were ok... But STP were great.....

[Super-Ecwfan1]

                   Personally...Buckcherry blows VR outta the water even though I love Slash and think he's the ultimate Legend. Commercial wise...yeah VR beats Buckcherry and thats not gonna change due to the fact STP/G'n'R is the primary fan bases of that band.

                  Theres just more Buckcherry songs that are better " Porno Star , The Movies , Lit Up , Ridin , Time Bomb , and Carosoul "  to me.

[SourBaby]

No.

As much as I like Josh, Scott was obviously the right choice.

Number 1 album, 2 number 1 rock singles, Grammy award,? sold out tour and a double platinum record speak volumes...

JOsh is back where he should be, back with Keith and rocking with buckcherry.

True True True.... Plus No one wants a second Guns N' Roses.... You could try as hard as you wanted but you couldn't get the real thing back... Plus I happened to be an STP and A GNR fan before I found Velvet Revolver. I  Scott Weilands voice...

[metallex78]

Coz STP was a Radio friendly pop/grunge band.....Thats why they were on the radio.. has nothing to do with who is more successfull or accomplished... It depends on who your target audiunce is... STP wrote radio and video friendly songs/albums...

BC's only "hit" was about snorting coke ... hmmm... Imagine trying to get "dirty mind" or "Slit my wrists" on the radio.... it wouldnt happen....?

BC have a VERY large base of fans and that says alot for not getting alot of radio play.. thats the way it should be in imo....

Listen every song on the radio is radio friendly.. What was scom or pc or wttj or nr or ycbm..? Stp had very good songs and people loved them it's that simple.. The point is they have had longevity, how many bands can say they have 5, 6 7 songs on constant rotation on classic rock radio stations..
Where is the rule that says you are a true success if you are underground or not mainstream as you'd like that you are doing it the right way..

Then GN'R is the biggest fraud cause they were mtv's bitch all through the 80's and early 90's, but wasn't their music still great..

either way that you wanna say it or break it down.. they were both great bands and i prefer Josh in BC over VR for the reasons i stated earlier. and i think Scot is a total poser. look at how many "images" hes tried to go for... first hes a grunge, then hes a rocker, then a punk and now hes david bowie....

Scott has always had different styles, look no further than STP's albums for that. All those "images" you just listed are different styles Scott portrays across any single STP album.

[Neemo]

Scott has always had different styles, look no further than STP's albums for that. All those "images" you just listed are different styles Scott portrays across any single STP album.

and he gets eveny more diverse when you listen to 12 Bar Blues...although he does alot of experimental shit on there