Would Velvet Have Done Better With Josh Todd?

[Thorazine Shuffle]

Scott carries more of a "fame" aspect than Josh Todd.? But if Mike Patton would of joined VR??

Uhhhhhhhhhhh................. H ell NO!

Let your feelings out D.  How would you feel if Mike Patton we're hired instead of Scott.  Come on, don't be shy.

[Falcon]

I was one of the first people that said they should get scott before they even had him in mind, and now its too bad they did pick him.

Just wondering, why do you characterize it as "too bad" they picked him?

Critical acclaim, hit singles, #1 album, Grammy award, year and half world wide tour..

All facts pointing to the correct decision being made.

[metallex78]

Scott carries more of a "fame" aspect than Josh Todd.? But if Mike Patton would of joined VR??

Uhhhhhhhhhhh................. H ell NO!

Let your feelings out D.? How would you feel if Mike Patton we're hired instead of Scott.? Come on, don't be shy.

I don't know about D, but I think Mike would've been an interesting choice, he's a great singer and certainly a wildcard.

But then I also think there's no way he would've fronted VR anyway, not after the circus that he thought of GN'R when he was on tour with them in 1992.

[Thorazine Shuffle]

Scott carries more of a "fame" aspect than Josh Todd.? But if Mike Patton would of joined VR??

Uhhhhhhhhhhh................. H ell NO!

Let your feelings out D.? How would you feel if Mike Patton we're hired instead of Scott.? Come on, don't be shy.

I don't know about D, but I think Mike would've been an interesting choice, he's a great singer and certainly a wildcard.

But then I also think there's no way he would've fronted VR anyway, not after the circus that he thought of GN'R when he was on tour with them in 1992.

There was a rumor back in the day that he was offered a spot in VR and he turned it down.  Pattons to scatterbrained for VR, but his vocal ability would of been awesome for VR if he would of sticked to a rock platform vocal-wise.

[W. Botaxl Rose]

Other than 'Lit Up', Josh Todd has never done anything that does it for me. Always sounds the same & seems to be happy being in a 'let's get this party started', 80's wanna be, should be Motley Crue's permanent opener type band.

As for Mike Patton. I think he's one of the greatest, but glad he didn't want to be in VR. It's kind of like Buckethead being in fakeGNR, Patton & BigB are far to out there doing there own thing to be part of a team in a rock n' roll band I think. It's not a slam or a bad thing, it's just who those guys are, they're almost too talented for any one thing to hold their attention that long.

[Falcon]

There was a rumor back in the day that he was offered a spot in VR and he turned it down.?

If I remember correctly, he was offered an audition and turned it down. ?

[da_pope]

No, Weiland is much better.? Scott was in STP and did songs like Plush, Interstate Love Song, and Sex Type Thing.? Josh is in Buckcherry and did Lit Up and that's it (not that they aren't popular and have a few more good songs, just nothing that was massive and could compete with STP).? Personally, I love STP and GNR and think that a hybrid of both styles of music is what will make up the music scene for the next 5-10 years.

Hybrid my ass... VR is all STP.
Jesus when I heard Sex Type Thing for the first time I could have sworn it was a new VR song.

[1987]

i like stps first few albums..  but hate scot in VR... i would have much rather heard josh todd..  also for the people bashing his writing.. i think you are basing those statements on just a few songs.. crazy bitch and porno star are the only songs that have a ton of swears and what you would call cheesy lyrics... check your head,, borderline, drink the water, even ridin..which i think is there best song...  are very well written.. and are way better than anything vr has put out..   if you base your statements on 2 or 3  songs then after hearing get in the ring, anything goes, and used to lover her.. then you could say axl can't write either.. no need to even defend axls writing.. i'm just making an example.. also there are some pretty dumb lines a few vr songs.. i'll have to pull out the booklet for some examples.. but i remember someone posting them in another very similar thread

[D]

A lot of u have this  MIke Patton fascination but U gotta get out of the early 90's and get into fucking reality.


Mike Patton is washed up and a nobody in today's musical circles.

With Patton, radio and national mags wouldnt have gave a shit about VR.

Scott Weiland is a modern radio God, gave the band instant credibility and without him VR wouldnt be half of what they are today.

I know Scott insulted the big hero but get over it already, Scott is fuckin rock n Roll, outside Anthony Kiedis and Jon Bon Jovi he is the greatest rock frontman alive doing music.


FNM werent that big in their day and what have they done in 10 years?  NOTHING and its exactly what VR would've done.



Give Scott his props.

Scott was my third fav member behind Slash and Duff till i saw them in concert, I barely noticed Slash and Duff were on the stage cause my eyes stayed glued to Scott.

I immediately went and bought STP's Thank You and am sorry I never realized how amazing Scott and STP were.

they were fuckin amazing.

[metallex78]

Scott was my third fav member behind Slash and Duff till i saw them in concert, I barely noticed Slash and Duff were on the stage cause my eyes stayed glued to Scott.

Yeah, I thought he was just ok, but after seeing him in concert fronting VR two nights in a row I was like

He's one hell of a frontman that's for sure

[VRslash]

Josh Todd is a hell of a singer. ive seen him live and there shows are great. but josh wasnt like kicked out. he left becouse of the ego's of the other guys. i would love to here josh's stuff with VR but i dont think we ever will. besides scott is amazing, even better then josh and now we have BuckCherry and Velvet Relvolver. 2 amazing bands, how can you beat that.

[Rob]

I personally prefer Todd over Weiland.  And I damb sure prefer Buckcherry over STP.  So I personally think VR would be better with Todd, both vocally and lyrically.  However, I don't think you can argue they would've done better with Josh Todd than Scott Weiland.  VR's been a huge success the last couple years.  I don't think they'd really be any bigger with a different singer.

[mikegiuliana]

I think they made the right choice, no matter who they picked there would have always been someone saying they should have picked whoever..  Like take bach, I love his voice, but he had no part of writing some great tunes from skidrow, I remember he did a show and people were like your voice would sound great on those songs (meaning i remember you 18 n life, youth gone wild)

[Skeletor]

Mike Patton is washed up and a nobody in today's musical circles.

Oh please Patton is far from washed up, in fact he's so prolific it's ridiculous... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Patton Just check out everything the guy's done. Mike Patton is the epitome of talent, he's a true artist. Which makes it all the less surprising that you would choose to ignore him.

And just out of interest, here's a little googlefight. Take note that Patton easily won Scott even though "he's a nobody" and Scott's in VR.
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=%22Mike+Patton%22&word2=%22Scott+Weiland%22

With Patton, radio and national mags wouldnt have gave a shit about VR.

Bullshit. You're completely detached from reality, aren't you?

FNM werent that big in their day and what have they done in 10 years?

LOL. FNM were fucking HUGE, and you talking shit doesn't change that fact one bit. They haven't done anything in the last 8 years? No shit sherlock, they broke up! What's your point?

[Falcon]

LOL. FNM were fucking HUGE..

No offense to Mike Patton (he's fucking brilliant) or yourself, but FNM were never by any stretch of the imagination "HUGE".  If I remember correctly, no album cracked the Billboard Top 10...

[mikegiuliana]

what's fnm

[Falcon]

what's fnm

Faith No More.

[mikegiuliana]

what's fnm

Faith No More.

I was never a big fan, I knew who they were but they were far from HUGE

[W. Botaxl Rose]

Wow. Just wow.  There's rock fans on here posting shit about Mike Patton & then using Jon Bon Jovi as an example of a great frontman. Then not even knowing what FNM means in the middle of a Mike Patton discussion. D, you obviously don't know shit about shit, so quit posting stupid bon jovi stuff & learn how to be silent  when you don't know what you're talking about. This board website never ceases to amaze me with other peoples stupidity.

[mikegiuliana]

Wow. Just wow.? There's rock fans on here posting shit about Mike Patton & then using Jon Bon Jovi as an example of a great frontman. Then not even knowing what FNM means in the middle of a Mike Patton discussion. D, you obviously don't know shit about shit, so quit posting stupid bon jovi stuff & learn how to be silent? when you don't know what you're talking about. This board website never ceases to amaze me with other peoples stupidity.

I remember faith no more, I just didn't have the initials click like GNR, NIN would.. Not like I sit around talking about them every day.. I just don't remember them as huge, huge bans you don't even have to listen to you just know about them because it's impossible to avoid.. I just remember epic in teh start of the 90's