Do you think these concerts are really going to happen? Will Axl show up?

[killingvector]

Axl didn't have much problem with the 2002 dates in Europe and Asia.  But as soon as the band came to the US, the American media began taking their swipes at him; soon enough,  delays, cancellations and tantrums sprung up.  Axl seemed to lose focus at times, walking off in Detroit, turning up consistantly late for shows, then forcing a fateful confrontation with Clear Channel after MSG.

The band needs to keep their eyes on the prize, finishing the tour and releasing this album.

Well it was not the press or if it was Axl shouldn't listen to all of the shit people have to say about him,if he uses the press as an excuse then that'll be really lame 

That maybe true but regardless, the tour didn't become unglued until it reached the States.

[NickNasty]

hasn't this been discussed like thousand times since 2 weeks?

just about, and i'll pretty much agree again- axl will probably have no problem getting through europe-the ultimate test is the North America-he just cant fuck around this time and will probably have to take a rawer deal from whoever promotes them this time here, and he'll have to deal with it and live up to his end of the bragain or his credibility as a concert draw will go from a very low number currently to zero.

[McDuff]

Axl didn't have much problem with the 2002 dates in Europe and Asia.  But as soon as the band came to the US, the American media began taking their swipes at him; soon enough,  delays, cancellations and tantrums sprung up.  Axl seemed to lose focus at times, walking off in Detroit, turning up consistantly late for shows, then forcing a fateful confrontation with Clear Channel after MSG.

The band needs to keep their eyes on the prize, finishing the tour and releasing this album.

Well it was not the press or if it was Axl shouldn't listen to all of the shit people have to say about him,if he uses the press as an excuse then that'll be really lame 

That maybe true but regardless, the tour didn't become unglued until it reached the States.

yeah I know what you mean,I guess tho Axl can cancel a show whenever he feels like it,it's his life 

[Siliconmessiah]

I know someone made this thread, cant find it.

who here, HONESTLY, is not worried about Axl making all of these shows? the back-to-back nights are scary, i really hope this all goes well, but whats different this time around compared to 2002 and 91-93?

I think its a bad move by management.  There's NO REASON to play back-to-back nights. This band is HUGE enough in name, it doesn't need to "tour like crazy" to build its name.

of course, i hope this kicks ass. im just worried.

Even The Stones do back to back shows as well as U2.  Back on the last European tour GNR did back to back shows.  I'm sure Axl can handle it.

Well, the last time GnR was scheduled to do back to back shows; the remaining 2002 tour got cancelled

Yeah, but hopefully, they?ve learned how to play "Patience" this time around. Or rather replaced it with something else...

[oldgunsfan]

yeah I know what you mean,I guess tho Axl can cancel a show whenever he feels like it,it's his life?

If he that's the case, than he shouldn't even bother going on tour.  The money people gotta pay for concert tickets these day, fucking $100/show.  The least the band can do is play a full set and not bitch about it.

If not, Axl can just stay in his hole on the Hills and keep re-recording CD,

[pollyblue]

i'm confident. axl will show up where i am. ha!

[uncleslashbob]

I have two tickets for the 12th but I wonder is this really gonna happen, its all to good to be true warm up shows in nyc,a summer tour in europe; its almost to good to be true.....

[GnR-NOW]

i hear u ... i have tix to the 15th, but all that means is im going to be in nyc at the hammerstein, its anyones guess if gnr will actually be there

[uncleslashbob]

so true gnr-now.

[Backslash]

Of course they'll show.

If they don't, Axl's career is all but done...

[Dirty Little Thing]

I have tickets for the 14th, and i'm getting kinda paranoid that they might feel that one warm-up show was enough or whatever. But I have faith in Axl and I don't think he'll let the fans down on this tour. 

[Takemedown]

word. you cats on the 12th i think are safe. the 14th, i'm hoping, will happen (back off bitch is sure to happen mother's day!). i'm going the 15th too but really worry about this date the most. hopefully, axl holds the gigs to an hour-hour 1/2 each. he can't bang out 2-21/2 hour sets at this juncture...

he'll be there. like a previous poster said, he's done if he bails!

enjoy!

[kyrie]

Look at it this way: He's already in New York - it's not like he can miss a plane or get held up at customs or something!

[Backslash]

Look at it this way: He's already in New York - it's not like he can miss a plane or get held up at customs or something!

Yeah, and the Knicks aren't in the playoffs, so there's no worries of him attending a basketball game instead! 

Ok, I'm sorry, I had to do that... it didn't actually happen, it's just fun to joke about.

[GnR-NOW]

I really would like to think he wouldn't bail on his fans, especially in NY since he's spending so much time here, I think Sanctuary has an office in NY, and I doubt club owners in NY would show their generousity to Axl if he bailed on the NY fans.

[GunnerOne 84]

I would expect these shows, and for him to at least make the festivals in Europe, if not the few solo shows as well. I can't see him fucking up his chance here, because if he starts bailing no one is going to support a full u.s. tour, which has to be a goal of his at some point. I think he may be on good behavior for a while.

[bazgnr]

On behalf of my non-refundable plane tickets, hotel room, and me, let me say, "there's no way they'll cancel/no-show this time out. ?Too much time away, too much at stake in light of the last go around as well as all the European dates that are booked. ?It's just too damn important," even though, deep down, it's a concern. ?Given the music/leaked tracks, my faith in all things GnR has been significantly restored, and I can only hope that lessons have been learned from the last attempt out, and the 12th will signal the triumphant return of a GnR that is here to stay.

[fif]

He won't cancel these shows.  Here's why: the audience for all these shows is not going to be some people who just think of GNR as some novelty band who sang "Paradise City", at least for the most part they won't be, the audience at all four shows (especially the first two) will be some of Axl's biggest fans.  These are the people who have been waiting over a decade for original material to come out.  The public itself is not all that interested in CD.  He knows that only the diehards are the ones who will go out that morning or whatever and buy CD.  Hence, the fans were given essentially first dibs on tickets to the NYC shows.  If he doesn't show up he's not screwing over some jackass who probably wouldn't buy CD anyway, he's screwing over his hardcore fans.  He cannot afford to miss any of these shows.

[Barbie567]

Can I just say that if I have to suffer through another night of people throwing cups of beer at my head & cops in riot gear, I will be really fucking annoyed.  Once was MORE than enough for a GNR no-show.  I have my doubts, as I agree it seems almost too good to be true, but I guess we just have to cross our fingers & have faith until the 12th!   

[Krispy Kreme]

It is going to happen. I wish I had purchased tickets and was going. Those who are, are lucky. Enjoy.