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personally i thought axl's voice in 2002 was good because he had an even wider vocal range which is really increbible, and i was wondering two things:
1. what did you think of axl's voice in 2002?
2. i know it's hard to predict but do you think it's possible that axl's voice has changed through 4 years of practice, to maybe grow even stronger?
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1. i think axl's voice was ok in 2002, although it wasn't the voice i knew.
2. i prefer his voice from the illusions tour so i hope he'll get closer to that in this tour
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I felt his voice was ok, i was more than fine with it. My issue was that he was often out of breath and therefore missed notes, and sounded weak. I don't think it was his voice that was the problem, it was a lack of preparation. I think he'll be ready this go around though.
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It's gonna be hard (until i hear his voice) to convince me that his voice has gotten better over time.
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Quote from: GunnerOne 84 on April 27, 2006, 01:38:41 AM
I felt his voice was ok, i was more than fine with it. My issue was that he was often out of breath and therefore missed notes, and sounded weak. I don't think it was his voice that was the problem, it was a lack of preparation. I think he'll be ready this go around though.
but is it possible that his voice can grow stronger in 4 years? that's what i would like to know...
on a side note, i can't believe we are actually talking about axl rose touring in 2006
unreal!
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I love the 01/02 voice. Love the highness of it. Hope it hasn't changed too much.
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also, by "strong" i mean a little rougher, anyone who heard his screams during the 2002 tour can confirm that axl's voice is infact very strong...
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I don't think it was his vocal capabilities that let him down in 02. I liked the sound of his voice. Just listen to November Rain where he was seated and not running around, when i saw him he sounded great. I think he didn't put enough effort in to being in shape, if he had been in shape he would not have become winded. He can still hit his notes, but he can't be sucking wind all the time. His voice unto itself is still very strong.
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The positives of his 2002 vocal technique were that it allowed him to have a higher range than he formerly had during live performances, and he was able to not progressively wreck his voice during concerts like he did in 1991-1993.
The negatives were that his voice sounded whiny and less emotionally attached to the lyrics. If I want to hear "Rocket Queen", I don't want to hear some whiny, weakened voice singing it.
I guess we'll find out in 15 days if he's changed technique.
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Quote from: GunnerOne 84 on April 27, 2006, 01:45:23 AM
I think he didn't put enough effort in to being in shape, if he had been in shape he would not have become winded. He can still hit his notes, but he can't be sucking wind all the time.
Exactly - the 2001 bootlegs sound worlds better than the 2002 ones because Axl was relatively in good health for those shows.
From recent pictures it appears he's lost weight since 2002, so I'm hoping his performances will be better this time around.
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I would hope he is putting everything he has into getting ready for the tour. If he comes out winded again, especially in NYC and Rio, which will both be very high profile, the press is going to kill him, and he knows it. I know im biased but i think he will have it together when he takes the stage.
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Quote from: GunnerOne 84 on April 27, 2006, 01:51:27 AM
I would hope he is putting everything he has into getting ready for the tour. If he comes out winded again, especially in NYC and Rio, which will both be very high profile, the press is going to kill him, and he knows it. I know im biased but i think he will have it together when he takes the stage.
well i'm sure he has prepared for it alot, i think we are in for something amazing this time around, i think his preparations must be about done though because lately uncle axl's been in new york partying and living it up...
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He seemed like he was running out of breath most of the time. I hope it sounds like it did at the Ritz in 88. This higher pitched voice would be alright if he could sustain it. I mean, he can't even sing Jungle anymore.
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People who say his voice was good in 2002 are a little bit deaf. His voice isn't that good anymore. Sure, he still can sing the high notes, but that rough edge is totally gone. He doesn't have that powervoice anymore. And like gnrkid03 said, he was indeed running out of breath most of the time. And it's a bit stupid to believe his voice will grow over the years now. Maybe if he lost lots of weight since '02 he'll be less out of breath, but that won't change the sound of his voice. On the album his voice will sound better because when recording it, he didn't have to sing for two straight hours. Just bits and pieces. And it'll also be better thanks to a little bit of technology.
I'm not bashing Axl, I'm still a fan, but a realistic one ...
Anyway, it could be worse, listen to James Hetfield nowadays, ouch, that's painfull.
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Quote from: Miggy on April 27, 2006, 03:18:28 AM
People who say his voice was good in 2002 are a little bit deaf.? His voice isn't that good anymore.? Sure, he still can sing the high notes, but that rough edge is totally gone.? He doesn't have that powervoice anymore.? ?And like gnrkid03 said, he was indeed running out of breath most of the time.? And it's a bit stupid to believe his voice will grow over the years now.? Maybe if he lost lots of weight since '02 he'll be less out of breath, but that won't change the sound of his voice.? On the album his voice will sound better because when recording it, he didn't have to sing for two straight hours.? Just bits and pieces.? And it'll also be better thanks to a little bit of technology.?
? I'm not bashing Axl, I'm still a fan, but a realistic one ...
Anyway, it could be worse, listen to James Hetfield nowadays, ouch, that's painfull.
don't compare axl to that wash-up, thanx
anyway are you sure that his voice can't grow? it's still strong, listen to the screams he did in 2002, also if he has been practicing alot then he can make it stronger, don't you think?
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Quote from: GunnerOne 84 on April 27, 2006, 01:38:41 AM
I felt his voice was ok, i was more than fine with it. My issue was that he was often out of breath and therefore missed notes, and sounded weak. I don't think it was his voice that was the problem, it was a lack of preparation. I think he'll be ready this go around though.
exactly..anyone that knows anything about singing knows that the vocal chords are like a muscle. The more you sing the stronger it gets. Being that he hadn't sung in 8yrs, lack of breathe support was a problem. But as the tour progressed in 2002 you could hear his voice getting stronger. I'm sure it'll be great on record
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Quote from: Speed Stone on April 27, 2006, 01:42:02 AM
Quote from: GunnerOne 84 on April 27, 2006, 01:38:41 AM
I felt his voice was ok, i was more than fine with it. My issue was that he was often out of breath and therefore missed notes, and sounded weak. I don't think it was his voice that was the problem, it was a lack of preparation. I think he'll be ready this go around though.
but is it possible that his voice can grow stronger in 4 years? that's what i would like to know...
no since he hasn't sung live in years..it takes time
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Quote from: GunnerOne 84 on April 27, 2006, 01:45:23 AM
I think he didn't put enough effort in to being in shape, if he had been in shape he would not have become winded. He can still hit his notes, but he can't be sucking wind all the time.
From recent pictures it appears he's lost weight since 2002, so I'm hoping his performances will be better this time around.
it appears he gained weight. he was in very good shape in 2002...I saw him on the streets. 2001 different story
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Quote from: Top-Hatted One on April 27, 2006, 03:41:02 AM
it appears he gained weight. he was in very good shape in 2002...I saw him on the streets. 2001 different story
have you seen the recent pics of axl? he looks buffed now.
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I felt his voice was ok, i was more than fine with it. My issue was that he was often out of breath and therefore missed notes, and sounded weak. I don't think it was his voice that was the problem, it was a lack of preparation. I think he'll be ready this go around though.
but is it possible that his voice can grow stronger in 4 years? that's what i would like to know...
no since he hasn't sung live in years..it takes time
but wouldn't it be possible to do this through practicing?
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wasn't he saying that he was experimenting with?his voice during the 2002 tour?
I think i heard it somewhere ?
Anyway, i think Axl will be prepared this time. ?I don't think we need to worry about the band because they sounded pretty tight on the last tour.
It remains to be seen what is going on with the third guitarist..
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