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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2006, 08:51:21 PM »

The movie can be pretty tough to watch ,


Before I saw the flick .I thought that maybe they should have waited just a touch longer .But now I'm glad they did .



I wonder how much contreversity is going to come from "World Trade Center" the Stone flick coming in August.
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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2006, 11:22:50 PM »

The movie can be pretty tough to watch ,


Before I saw the flick .I thought that maybe they should have waited just a touch longer .But now I'm glad they did .



I wonder how much contreversity is going to come from "World Trade Center" the Stone flick coming in August.

prolly alot as oliver stone tends to overdo it and tell things that arent true ..... look at his JFK and Doors movies... So full of shit...
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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2006, 05:51:57 PM »

All the whining can stop because the movie is definitely worthy of the subject.  Anyone who has seen it will know this.
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« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2006, 06:15:45 PM »

All the whining can stop because the movie is definitely worthy of the subject.  Anyone who has seen it will know this.

"whining"

Let's be honest. Most of this movie will be contrived. Why would I want to see a recreation of something based on insufficient facts? We all know what happened to that flight. However nobody knows the details of what happened other then the phone calls.

Nothing like a profit driven reminder of a national tragedy..........
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« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2006, 06:46:58 PM »

A course it's progit driven .You really don't think the studio wants to lose money ?


But at the same time I think if the really wanted to make a huge profit the would have soent more on advertising the flick and put it in a lot more screens then they did.
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« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2006, 12:39:22 PM »

All the whining can stop because the movie is definitely worthy of the subject.? Anyone who has seen it will know this.

"whining"

Let's be honest. Most of this movie will be contrived. Why would I want to see a recreation of something based on insufficient facts? We all know what happened to that flight. However nobody knows the details of what happened other then the phone calls.

Nothing like a profit driven reminder of a national tragedy..........


my point exactly.....
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« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2006, 11:16:24 PM »

All the whining can stop because the movie is definitely worthy of the subject.? Anyone who has seen it will know this.

"whining"

Let's be honest. Most of this movie will be contrived. Why would I want to see a recreation of something based on insufficient facts? We all know what happened to that flight. However nobody knows the details of what happened other then the phone calls.

Nothing like a profit driven reminder of a national tragedy..........


Yes, whining.? Ya know?? What you do virtually every day....

In your typical fashion, SLC, you're making a judgement call without having all the facts.? In this case, you haven't even seen the damn movie.? The entire film is framed around the many known facts about the flight, as well as what was happening around the rest of the country that day.? The people that made the movie worked with many families of those who died on the flight, and their approach is rather conservative. Given the circumstances, the limited amount of filled-in dialogue and action is very possibly what happened.? There is nothing over-hyped, over-blown, or really inaccurate about any of it.

As far as your comment about profiting off a national tragedy, if that is the case, than Steven Spielberg is guilty for profiting of Schindler's List.? In fact, by your statement, anyone who makes a movie about any real-life event could be guilty of the same.
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« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2006, 12:03:47 AM »

All the whining can stop because the movie is definitely worthy of the subject.  Anyone who has seen it will know this.

"whining"

Let's be honest. Most of this movie will be contrived. Why would I want to see a recreation of something based on insufficient facts? We all know what happened to that flight. However nobody knows the details of what happened other then the phone calls.

Nothing like a profit driven reminder of a national tragedy..........


Yes, whining.  Ya know?  What you do virtually every day....

In your typical fashion, SLC, you're making a judgement call without having all the facts.  In this case, you haven't even seen the damn movie.  The entire film is framed around the many known facts about the flight, as well as what was happening around the rest of the country that day.  The people that made the movie worked with many families of those who died on the flight, and their approach is rather conservative. Given the circumstances, the limited amount of filled-in dialogue and action is very possibly what happened.  There is nothing over-hyped, over-blown, or really inaccurate about any of it.

As far as your comment about profiting off a national tragedy, if that is the case, than Steven Spielberg is guilty for profiting of Schindler's List.  In fact, by your statement, anyone who makes a movie about any real-life event could be guilty of the same.


Schindler's list took place many decades back, not five years. Quite a difference.

I stand by my first post. Much of the movie is made based on speculation from insufficient facts.

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« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2006, 03:14:00 AM »

I would dissagree there if only for the fact that the guy who plays the air controller who grounded the planes in the US that day, is infact the real guy who lived through it. I think thats pretty acurate.
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« Reply #29 on: May 02, 2006, 07:15:30 AM »

propaganda ? martyrs ?
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« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2006, 07:37:52 AM »

propaganda ? martyrs ?

 not really, just people who were in fact involved knee deep in shit that day , along with the family members of who died who just wanted an accurate account (s much as possible) thier story to be told, and to not let people forget or become apathethic to the world again. There is no glamarization, nothing but basic facts, and on a side not people forget or may not have know that this was not the first movie based on this tragedy of this flight , its actually the 3rd, only thing different is that its playing to a world audience. I read a comemtary .in the news, and it hit home for me, not only that I live here , had strong connections to the day and my own life and intangibles that coulda happened that I think about, but to sum up......... "if this movie does anything I hope it renews the anger that united the nation. Instead of people turning away and saying .oh well it never affected me ".
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« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2006, 01:46:24 PM »

the world is full of human tragedy not just 9/11. There are probably worse tragedies  out there that no one knows about and because there are so many tragedies people become immune to the poison. The importance of this movie is to remind people of such tragedies because people shouldn't pass them off as many on this thread have rightly pointed out.
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« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2006, 02:58:49 PM »

you dont know or cant prove that the air force didnt shoot that plane down and made up the "lets roll" story just to have some public hero's to worship and movies to make... sure would be better than having to explain that the air force shot it out of the sky.....
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« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2006, 09:50:04 PM »

you dont know or cant prove that the air force didnt shoot that plane down and made up the "lets roll" story just to have some public hero's to worship and movies to make... sure would be better than having to explain that the air force shot it out of the sky.....

can you prove the Holocaust happened? or pearl harbor? or the kosovo war?

take time to read the facts the commission identified. sure, not all details are known, but the movie is more than what happened on the plane.

partial cast listing...
Ben Sliney ....  Himself
Tobin Miller ....  Himself
Rich Sullivan ....  Himself
Tony Smith ....  Himself
James Fox ....  Himself (as Major James Fox)
Shawna Fox ....  Herself (as Staff Sgt. Shawna Fox)
Jeremy Powell ....  Himself (as 1st Lt. Jeremy Powell)
Greg Callahan ....  Himself
Rick Tepper ....  Himself

quote from Rolling Stone....
"There's not an ounce of Hollywood bull in this movie's 111 minutes. To achieve authenticity, Greengrass used little-known actors and recruited aviation and military personnel to play themselves, most notably Ben Sliney, who marked September 11th as his first day on the job as chief of air traffic control at the Federal Aviation Administration's command center in Virginia."

from the NY Times....
"In its vivid details and especially its narrative pacing, the account of the United 93 hijacking in the 9/11 report reads like a nail-biter, something cooked up by Sebastian Junger. Drawing on different sources, including the report and family members, Mr. Greengrass follows the same trajectory as the report"
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« Reply #34 on: May 03, 2006, 08:20:13 PM »

I haven't seen it yet, but plan too. I think it's the right time for it as well; many people(as was previously stated) just don't seem to care, or think about 9/11. America's attention span is extremely short nowadays. You'd think that we'd never forget about 9/11, but some people want us to.  Cry
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