putting the new shows first is fucked up in my book

[Bono]

If Axl doesn't show on Monday we'll be reading about MikeGuiliana handcuffed and dragged out of Hammerstein by several police officers following one of the worst riots since the Los Angeles 1991 riots. HAHAHA!!! ? ?

I'll fucking freak also if the show on the 15th gets axed. I'm not in the mod to have back to back Gn'R gigs that In traveled long distances for be cancelled last second. ?Driving though the mountains in the worst snow storm/road conditions I have ever seen was enough let alone the thought of flying to New York for yet another riot. Been there done that.

[darknemus]

No-one with tix to the 15th can honestly say that they feel 100% comfortable knowing that its the second show of back to back performances. I really hope Axl comes through for us all, and I know that he will - but history makes me always have that sliver of doubt in my mind...

I can.  But then again, I'm an eternal optimist.  Not to mention the NY press would eat Axl alive if he blew off one of these shows, I believe.

-darknemus

[BurningHills]

If all 4 shows go off without a hitch (which I'm not convinced is going to happen yet) - I would like to see them do what the Black Crowes did when they did a week-long stand at the Hammerstein last year - a totally different set every night. That way it makes each show unique so that it doesn't really matter if its the first show or the last, you're guaranteed a unique show no matter what!

[dman1991]

If all 4 shows go off without a hitch (which I'm not convinced is going to happen yet) - I would like to see them do what the Black Crowes did when they did a week-long stand at the Hammerstein last year - a totally different set every night. That way it makes each show unique so that it doesn't really matter if its the first show or the last, you're guaranteed a unique show no matter what!

excellent observation!

[icpillusions]

wow, just heard about this.  I would be dissapointed if I had tickets for the 15 and 17th also.  Since the last date I had tickets for got cancelled.  But then again, I still believe in Axl.  Some might say I'm crazy. 

[Jim Bob]

wow mike... your constant complaining about this band never ceases to amaze me.  They didn't HAVE to even do this pre-sale for us.  Some people who would die to go to just one of these shows, don't get to go to any!   Be happy with what you have.  I'm going on the 17th, and I'd love to see the other 3, but I live in Arizona, so thats just not possible.  I still consider myself lucky for getting to see Guns this year. 

[GnR-NOW]

i personally think it ll come down to just waiting and seeing, theres 25 days till the 15th, thats not too far away. so he ll either show, or he wont. ?does anyone know his history of playing on back to backs, other then the philly show?

ps they will be rusty as hell on the 12, the 15th could have the potential to be a real dynamite show too

[Jonx]

People need to stop complaining, its Guns n Roses. You are all forgetting that Axl is once again dealing with Clear Channel, you can bet all your money that they have learnt their lesson from 2002, the contract that Axl must have signed with them must be a legal masterpiece. He wont cancel, he cant cancel. And to be quite honest im kind of pleased that i have tickets to the 15th....... im not trying to have a go at anyone going on the 12th or the 14th but this will probably be the 2nd or 3rd time the band will have played together as a complete entity (if anyone doubts this please go and listen to the 2001 Vegas bootleg Axl states that he only went to one rehearsal before the show, the band are in LA, Axl is in NY). Not to mention the fact that if you believe the current rumours they STILL dont have a 3rd guitarist, or if they do, the guy has only been learning the material for a few days. The band wont be as tight as they will be towards they end of their hammerstein stint, and hopefully by the time Rio rolls around, they will all have clicked and be fucking amazing!

So everyone stop moaning, each date has its advantages and disadvantes, you are still seeing a rare thing.......... you are all seeing Guns n Roses play in a small intimate venue. You are seeing the start of something!

Goodluck to everyone hoping to get tickets!

Jonx

[GunnerOne 84]

Thank you Jonx, people look at this great thing and still complain. I have tix to the 17th, can't wait. Loses no luster to me at all.

[Jim Bob]

Thank you Jonx, people look at this great thing and still complain. I have tix to the 17th, can't wait. Loses no luster to me at all.

I do too.. I personally think the final night just might be the best    as it was on the 2002 tour.

[BurningHills]

The show hasn't lost its luster to me at all by any means. The chance to see GNR in a theater doesn't happen too often, and I'm still psyched.

Only bad thing is the element of surprise is gone, and I may avoid the forums that weekend anyway so that I can still go into Monday's show not knowing anything so that it'll all be news to me regardless.

As I said, this all depends on whether Axl shows up that night or not, and I'm not going to be convinced until he's onstage.

[oneway23]

I agree with Mike here, to an extent.  I'm not whining, not ungrateful, I just feel a bit jolted for the folks that felt like they were experiencing the unique rush of an official unveiling of sorts.  It's the second night of a back to back and the only date with no rest dates in between, which history has proven is not a very reliable formula for Axl.  The band may be firing on all cylinders come the 17th after 3 shows under their belts and a day of rest, but if he decides to show for the 15th, there's a good chance that he'll be fatigued and his voice will be shot considering the fact that hasn't toured regularly in a long while...And again, NOT speaking in absolutes here, but I certainly empathize.

[ShotgunBlues1978]

Let's keep in mind that the 2002 MSG show was their third show in four days too, so maybe that's a good sign for those of us going on the 15th

[oneway23]

Fair point, my good man!

[BurningHills]

If Axl blows off even one of these four shows, then its official commercial suicide, and he can kiss any hopes of a comeback goodbye. But, again, this is Axl and nothing is ever written in stone.

[Mr.Intensity]

Axl's not blowing off any shows... in case you can't tell this was planned.

The shows going on sale first were obviously the weaker dates available.. Monday and a Wednesday.

They knew we'd all go crazy and those would sell out in minutes. Then what better to add shows on weekend days Friday+Sunday when more people are free off work.

Axl knew he was going to play four dates most likely and he committed to them. I am sure Axl is just as excited to get back on stage as we are to see him. I am absolutely stoked that I know for sure I'll be at two of these shows. Ohh well, if I don't get to see the 3rd guitarest unveiled live.... I'll try my best too though..

Stop worrying he is going to cancel out dates, you're being paranoid.

[The Hinge]

I am an Aussie and I would give my left nut to be at the 2nd or 3rd show and wouldn't even care if it was the 17th show.
I can see your point though to some degree.

[GnR-NOW]

there will only be 1 back to back on the 06 europe tour, but alot show off show off ... which traveling will be done on the off days, so im sure that willcause ?more fatigue then doing back to back shows at the same venue in ny, besides he needs to these back to back shows the 14 and 15th, because one if he isnt that sharp the NY crowd will love his willingness to go for it, two he ll need to work on stamina and see if he can perform at that high level on consecutive nights.

[GnR-NOW]

Axl's not blowing off any shows... in case you can't tell this was planned.

The shows going on sale first were obviously the weaker dates available.. Monday and a Wednesday.

They knew we'd all go crazy and those would sell out in minutes. Then what better to add shows on weekend days Friday+Sunday when more people are free off work.

Axl knew he was going to play four dates most likely and he committed to them. I am sure Axl is just as excited to get back on stage as we are to see him. I am absolutely stoked that I know for sure I'll be at two of these shows. Ohh well, if I don't get to see the 3rd guitarest unveiled live.... I'll try my best too though..

Stop worrying he is going to cancel out dates, you're being paranoid.

thats what im saying !!!

[Loaded NightraiN]

God you guys are such crybabies..When did GNR say the 15th would be their first show?? what about the people in Rio who thought it would be the first..what about Philly, they have reason to bitch.. You just (stupidly) assumed it'd be the first... Deal with it, enjoy the show and shut the fuck up!!