CD Not Going To Be Released Next Month (From SP1at)

[SWINGTRADER]

I have been visiting GNR forums since 98'. ?i used to post at gnronline( when it had a message board),Chinesedemocracy.com, ?gnrx,com, ?2000intentions etc ?. So many damn forums I've forgotten a lot of them. ?I have been very patient waiting for this album but if it is not released this yr I am done with this new band . ? I'll become a VR supporter ?even though they suck, ?atleast they know how to release an album. ? If Axl doesn't release this thing before the tour ?I hope he gets booed off stage and people throw shit at him. ? I never knew that releasing a fuckin album was rocket science. ?Maybe Scott Weiland is right, ?maybe Axl sucks on his own and can't write a song to save his life . ? This fucker better hurry the fuck up or he is going to lose the few fans he has left . ? ?

[jameslofton29]

?Maybe Scott Weiland is right, ?maybe Axl sucks on his own and can't write a song to save his life . ? . ? ?

Did you hear the 2002 bootlegs? Or the recent demos? Listen to them, and you might want to reconsider that opinion.

[Minneapolisnewsman]

SWINGTRADER,  do you live in LA?

[darknemus]

I have been visiting GNR forums since 98'.  i used to post at gnronline( when it had a message board),Chinesedemocracy.com,  gnrx,com,  2000intentions etc  . So many damn forums I've forgotten a lot of them.  I have been very patient waiting for this album but if it is not released this yr I am done with this new band .   I'll become a VR supporter  even though they suck,  atleast they know how to release an album.   If Axl doesn't release this thing before the tour  I hope he gets booed off stage and people throw shit at him.   I never knew that releasing a fuckin album was rocket science.  Maybe Scott Weiland is right,  maybe Axl sucks on his own and can't write a song to save his life .   This fucker better hurry the fuck up or he is going to lose the few fans he has left .   

Those same "few fans he has left" managed to sell out an arena in what, 8 minutes?  Be careful when making blanket statements like this - they tend to come back to bite you.

-darknemus

[pilferk]

Cmon Pilferk. Did I miss some announcement from Merck or Axl? An email from Merck doesnt prove a thing. Emails dont prove shit. If you dont agree, go read all the previous email threads from years past. The only thing that proves its existence is an actual announcement/press release from the GNR camp.

Didn't you mean resident HTGTH realist?


the resident HTGTH insider Mysteron needs to put his two cents in on this thread.

Again, the confirmation we've gotten may not be as definitive as you'd like, but...it's still confirmation. ?I understand your deep seeded need for something more definitive, but dismissing what we have, out of turn, simply because it didnt' come directly from Merck or Axl is a bit short sited. ?Calling it a pipe dream is, too. ?There are promoter announced dates with real tickets being sold. ?You don't do that without signed contracts. ?And (reputeable) promoters don't do that unless they have reasonable certainty they have a product to sell that's not going to result in them losing their shirts. ?Again, it's not definitive confirmation from the band, itself...but it's compelling confirmation, all the same.

Email confirmation from Merck is pretty much the ?next best thing from an "official" announcement. ?Again, maybe not as definitive as YOU would like (and, given your well earned and much worked for pessimist title, that should surprise no one), but, again, pretty compelling, all the same.

As for being a realist, I'd beg to differ. Especially in this case. A realist would incorporate all the information at their disposal and not ignore ?huge swathes of it simply because it wasn't "definitive" enough for them. They wouldn't immediately jump to the "worst case" scenario simply because all the facts aren't yet in evidence. ?They wouldn't dismiss the evidence we DO have and leap, feet first, to the conclusion that it's all bunk. That's the mark of a pessimist. ?And, keep in mind, I'm not coming down on you for your viewpoint. ?All things considered, in the grand scheme of GnR, being the pessimist has been closer to being right, more often than not, in the past few years (or decade, maybe). ?But that doesn't make you a realist...it just makes you right.

As for Mysteron....he seems to be intentionally laying low. ?And that, in and of itself, is pretty odd. ?Maybe he's on holiday, maybe he's just keeping his mouth shut. ?I don't know. ?But it is interesting....

[ppbebe]

Well not every old fan is going/willing to be taken to the 21st century with GNR, it seems

Warning:
"look who were talking, you dumbass know-it-alls! I told ya, pessimists from hell!!!" thread bump starts very SOON.

Honestly some of you must have had lots of sleepless nights pondering what to do if the sun rises from the west.

[pilferk]

Honestly some of you must have had lots of sleepless nights pondering what to do if the sun rises from the west.

Heh, not me.  I'd set my clock back 3 hours and thank whoever was responsible for the one night of 3 extra hours of sleep.

Having kids will make you practical like that in a damn hurry.

[Minneapolisnewsman]

I have been visiting GNR forums since 98'.? i used to post at gnronline( when it had a message board),Chinesedemocracy.com,? gnrx,com,? 2000intentions etc? . So many damn forums I've forgotten a lot of them.? I have been very patient waiting for this album but if it is not released this yr I am done with this new band .? ?I'll become a VR supporter? even though they suck,? atleast they know how to release an album.? ?If Axl doesn't release this thing before the tour? I hope he gets booed off stage and people throw shit at him.? ?I never knew that releasing a fuckin album was rocket science.? Maybe Scott Weiland is right,? maybe Axl sucks on his own and can't write a song to save his life .? ?This fucker better hurry the fuck up or he is going to lose the few fans he has left .? ?

Those same "few fans he has left" managed to sell out an arena in what, 8 minutes?? Be careful when making blanket statements like this - they tend to come back to bite you.

-darknemus

And be careful telling people, in a blanket fashion, that they are frauds, because they did not want to give up their sources regarding their knowledge of conversations between the old bandmembers. ?Not everyone one is sitting in an English Garden, waiting for the sun.

[SWINGTRADER]

I'm just upset because if this news is accurate than we probably won't see the album this yr."The new album has yet to even enter the release conveyor belt at Universal, according to Universal." ? I know I went overboard when I said that Axl could not write a song to save his life . ?He could write songs ?he just doesn't know how to release them. ? It's been almost 4 yrs since the VMA performance. ?Maybe we are all suckers. ? "you will here music this yr" ? ?translation : ?I am going to tour this summer ?I will leak a few tracks ?and as far as my album goes , you can all kiss my ass.

[Minneapolisnewsman]

I'm just upset because if this news is accurate than we probably won't see the album this yr."The new album has yet to even enter the release conveyor belt at Universal, according to Universal." ? I know I went overboard when I said that Axl could not write a song to save his life . ?He could write songs ?he just doesn't know how to release them. ? It's been almost 4 yrs since the VMA performance. ?Maybe we are all suckers. ? "you will here music this yr" ? ?translation : ?I am going to tour this summer ?I will leak a few tracks ?and as far as my album goes , you can all kiss my ass.

Are you from LA?

[shaun]

The line in the GnR song Pretty Tied Up:
ONCE THERE WAS THIS ROCK N' ROLL BAND
ROLLIN' ON THE STREETS
TIME WENT BY AND IT BECAME A JOKE
WE JUST NEEDED MORE AND MORE FULFILLING...
UH-HUH
TIME WENT BY AND IT ALL WENT UP IN SMOKE...

...is this song about GnR in general  or about the old GnR 

[Meanmachine22]

I'm just upset because if this news is accurate than we probably won't see the album this yr."The new album has yet to even enter the release conveyor belt at Universal, according to Universal." ? I know I went overboard when I said that Axl could not write a song to save his life . ?He could write songs ?he just doesn't know how to release them. ? It's been almost 4 yrs since the VMA performance. ?Maybe we are all suckers. ? "you will here music this yr" ? ?translation : ?I am going to tour this summer ?I will leak a few tracks ?and as far as my album goes , you can all kiss my ass.

Swingy, they keep all thi shit so tightlipped. Guess we would not even know when CD would hit the stores tomorrow...
I visit this forum since god i don't know when and didnb't post often 'cause i thought that this band is over. In 2001 & 2002 when the hope glimped that we would see something i didn't really believ in it also. Now in 2006 i have a feeling in my stomach that it's time. Ok, fuck my feelings but the trafficlight shows green i'd say

[Minneapolisnewsman]

The line in the GnR song Pretty Tied Up:
ONCE THERE WAS THIS ROCK N' ROLL BAND
ROLLIN' ON THE STREETS
TIME WENT BY AND IT BECAME A JOKE
WE JUST NEEDED MORE AND MORE FULFILLING...
UH-HUH
TIME WENT BY AND IT ALL WENT UP IN SMOKE...

...is this about GnR?

That was written by Jeff Isabelle, shortly before heading back home and regrouping with Alan Niven. ?

[SWINGTRADER]

No, I'm from NY

[pilferk]

I'm just upset because if this news is accurate than we probably won't see the album this yr."The new album has yet to even enter the release conveyor belt at Universal, according to Universal." ? I know I went overboard when I said that Axl could not write a song to save his life . ?He could write songs ?he just doesn't know how to release them. ? It's been almost 4 yrs since the VMA performance. ?Maybe we are all suckers. ? "you will here music this yr" ? ?translation : ?I am going to tour this summer ?I will leak a few tracks ?and as far as my album goes , you can all kiss my ass.

Can you point me to who said this:

"The new album has yet to even enter the release conveyor belt at Universal, according to Universal."

I'm just a bit curious. I missed that comment, from whoever made it, and would like to read it in context.

[Will]

The new Guns N'Roses album, Chinese Democracy, will NOT be released next month.

Oooook. Where's the news here? Did anyone really think CD would be released in April? Gimme a break. An album that big won't be released in that short period of time. Earliest time I think would be late May/ early June.

[Minneapolisnewsman]

I'm just upset because if this news is accurate than we probably won't see the album this yr."The new album has yet to even enter the release conveyor belt at Universal, according to Universal." ? I know I went overboard when I said that Axl could not write a song to save his life . ?He could write songs ?he just doesn't know how to release them. ? It's been almost 4 yrs since the VMA performance. ?Maybe we are all suckers. ? "you will here music this yr" ? ?translation : ?I am going to tour this summer ?I will leak a few tracks ?and as far as my album goes , you can all kiss my ass.

Can you point me to who said this:

"The new album has yet to even enter the release conveyor belt at Universal, according to Universal."

I'm just a bit curious. I missed that comment, from whoever made it, and would like to read it in context.

From Sp1at on Saturday.  When are rehearsals scheduled to begin?  Today? 

[Thorazine Shuffle]

I'm just upset because if this news is accurate than we probably won't see the album this yr."The new album has yet to even enter the release conveyor belt at Universal, according to Universal." ? I know I went overboard when I said that Axl could not write a song to save his life . ?He could write songs ?he just doesn't know how to release them. ? It's been almost 4 yrs since the VMA performance. ?Maybe we are all suckers. ? "you will here music this yr" ? ?translation : ?I am going to tour this summer ?I will leak a few tracks ?and as far as my album goes , you can all kiss my ass.

Can you point me to who said this:

"The new album has yet to even enter the release conveyor belt at Universal, according to Universal."

I'm just a bit curious. I missed that comment, from whoever made it, and would like to read it in context.

It was BigBoss over at Sp1at.

[Doc Emmett Brown]

"you will here music this yr"    translation :  I am going to tour this summer  I will leak a few tracks  and as far as my album goes , you can all kiss my ass.

when I'm at my most pessimistic (realistic?), that's how I look at it as well.  But with the recent news of Axl in NY, I hold on to the hope that he is there for the mastering of the album....and hence we're close.

[pilferk]

From Sp1at on Saturday.? When are rehearsals scheduled to begin?? Today??

Thanks.? Interesting.? I'm assuming B.B. meant Geffen, not Universal...I mean, it's high profile so Universal will probably have SOME part in it, but it's Geffen that will go through the motions of actual release and distribution (using Universal's resources, of course).  At least that was always my impression

I think they were scheduled to start last week, weren't they?? Or did they get pushed and I missed the thread about it?