Former Guns n' Roses manager Alan Niven speaks!

[oldgunsfan]

15 years after he was fired, who cares what he's got to say

[Sterlingdog]

15 years after he was fired, who cares what he's got to say

Well, this thread is now 8 pages long, so I guess somebody does. 

[DeN]

Am I safe to assume that Alan Niven's comments mean either Slash or Izzy and Slash may be back in GNR or maybe will make surprise appearances on European tour???

apparently there are even internal rumours at interscope & geffen about that....rumours rumours...who knows...

[madagas]

The funny thing is he was fired by Axl! They must have somehow mended fences a little bit.

[Ignatius]

The funny thing is he was fired by Axl! They must have somehow mended fences a little bit.

Exactly, that's what I said in a previous post earlier...

[gnr_12]

Am I safe to assume that Alan Niven's comments mean either Slash or Izzy and Slash may be back in GNR or maybe will make surprise appearances on European tour???

apparently there are even internal rumours at interscope & geffen about that....rumours rumours...who knows...

Proof?

[dolphin]

Am I safe to assume that Alan Niven's comments mean either Slash or Izzy and Slash may be back in GNR or maybe will make surprise appearances on European tour???

apparently there are even internal rumours at interscope & geffen about that....rumours rumours...who knows...

Proof?

I would just say that the proof is that Slash has YET to comment so maybe his silence is because they are gonna announce his return to GNR and all this so called bad blood is PR bullshit.

Okay..wakes up from dream

[highend88]

I found it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izzy_Stradlin

"Several of his former bandmates asked him to join Velvet Revolver when it was in its formative stage but he declined due to his unwillingness to work with a lead singer, and his aversion to the life on the road."

Is he refrering to Scott Weiland?

[Backslash]

I found it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izzy_Stradlin

"Several of his former bandmates asked him to join Velvet Revolver when it was in its formative stage but he declined due to his unwillingness to work with a lead singer, and his aversion to the life on the road."

Is he refrering to Scott Weiland?

No, that was before there was a singer picked.  Izzy wants to sing, himself.

[highend88]

I found it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izzy_Stradlin

"Several of his former bandmates asked him to join Velvet Revolver when it was in its formative stage but he declined due to his unwillingness to work with a lead singer, and his aversion to the life on the road."

Is he refrering to Scott Weiland?

No, that was before there was a singer picked.? Izzy wants to sing, himself.

Do you have an article to this story? Thanks

[gnr_12]

Haha Slash isnt back in Guns.. VR is coming out with a new album, and besides if he left, do u think Scott, Matt, or Duff would let him go without making it public and spilling the beans on this HUGE reuinion between axl n slash..

Its nothing but a dream..

[Minneapolisnewsman]

I found it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izzy_Stradlin

"Several of his former bandmates asked him to join Velvet Revolver when it was in its formative stage but he declined due to his unwillingness to work with a lead singer, and his aversion to the life on the road."

Is he refrering to Scott Weiland?

No, that was before there was a singer picked.? Izzy wants to sing, himself.

I am pretty sure Izzy's reasonging was fairly unselfish, and well thought out.  He wanted to avoid, exactly what is happening now:  basically two bands formed out of one, and verbal bashing between the new lead man and Axl.  If just Izzy sang, then it would have been easy to bring Ax back into the fold when the timing was right.  Hindsight is 20/20, but that would have made for a far better scenario.  Izzy, also, is a fairly decent singer, and a better songwriter than Weiland.

[blues rocker]

He better write the majority of the lyrics and melodies... Thats what a singer is suppose to fucking do. I don't get why he's trying to make it look like Axl preformed some great duty. Scott is a fucking homo though... I love Velvet but they should have gone with Buckcherry's singer.

Name one fuckin thing Josh Todd has ever done.


Scott Weiland shits all over Josh Todd or Sebastian Bach.

As soon as someone assassinates someone's talent, i immediately disreguard anything they say.

If u dont like Scott........ Fine

If u think he is a fag........ Fine


but no one can sit here and try to say that man does not have fuckin talent.

that statement is ridiculous and removes all credibility from anyone who says such a stupid fuckin thing.


"Stupid Bitch" yeah thats a real winner of a song, Buckcherry are soooooo fuckin lame seriously.

Scott's worst song is better than that piece of garbage.

psh...the only reason scott and stp had any success is because they got lucky - they jumped on the grunge bandwagon and rode it all the way to the bank...sure, there was some decent grunge music, but as a whole grunge is an inferior style of rock...it is monotonous and litmited in what it can do...the best grunge song can't even compete with a mediocre gnr song...

at least buckcherry tries to make something good, rather than just trying to cover up their lack of talent with a lame "experimental" or "modern" sound...

a lot of modern rock bands have this approach:? "oh, i can't sing or write a decent tune, so i'll just make it sound really weird and people will think i'm a genious for doing something different"

in my opinion, grunge ruined rock, and is responsible for the extreme lack of good bands today...grunge made it possible for bands to achieve huge success from inferior melodies...once mucisians realized they could be successful without being good, there was no longer any motivation to be good.

[gnr_12]

He better write the majority of the lyrics and melodies... Thats what a singer is suppose to fucking do. I don't get why he's trying to make it look like Axl preformed some great duty. Scott is a fucking homo though... I love Velvet but they should have gone with Buckcherry's singer.

Name one fuckin thing Josh Todd has ever done.


Scott Weiland shits all over Josh Todd or Sebastian Bach.

As soon as someone assassinates someone's talent, i immediately disreguard anything they say.

If u dont like Scott........ Fine

If u think he is a fag........ Fine


but no one can sit here and try to say that man does not have fuckin talent.

that statement is ridiculous and removes all credibility from anyone who says such a stupid fuckin thing.


"Stupid Bitch" yeah thats a real winner of a song, Buckcherry are soooooo fuckin lame seriously.

Scott's worst song is better than that piece of garbage.

psh...the only reason scott and stp had any success is because they got lucky - they jumped on the grunge bandwagon and rode it all the way to the bank...sure, there was some decent grunge music, but as a whole grunge is an inferior style of rock...it is monotonous and litmited in what it can do...the best grunge song can't even compete with a mediocre gnr song...

at least buckcherry tries to make something good, rather than just trying to cover up their lack of talent with a lame "experimental" or "modern" sound...

a lot of modern rock bands have this approach:  "oh, i can't sing or write a decent tune, so i'll just make it sound really weird and people will think i'm a genious for doing something different"

Agreed. There can be 10 Scott Weilands, but only one Axl Rose..

Voice. No one will EVER touch axls.
Look. Man.. evey girl loves him.. even now.
Style. Man he was a trend setter.. still is..
PErsona. Lets not even go there..
Moves. Like a snake baby..

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Haha Slash isnt back in Guns.. VR is coming out with a new album, and besides if he left, do u think Scott, Matt, or Duff would let him go without making it public and spilling the beans on this HUGE reuinion between axl n slash..

Its nothing but a dream..

Yeah a VR dance concept album. That is gonna rock 

[mikegiuliana]

Haha Slash isnt back in Guns.. VR is coming out with a new album, and besides if he left, do u think Scott, Matt, or Duff would let him go without making it public and spilling the beans on this HUGE reuinion between axl n slash..

Its nothing but a dream..

Yeah a VR dance concept album. That is gonna rock?

you'd be the first to say wait for the album if axl made a comment like that...  We know you already hate the album even before it comes out..

[ppbebe]

Ok, someone here will probably remember what I'm talking about...the article might even be on the site.

But years ago I remember reading an interview with Axl when he talked about the departure of Izzy.  He said Izzy was basically enticed into leaving by a former manager, and that manager was trying to go behind Axl's back and get the rest to leave Axl too.  He felt very betrayed  by both Izzy and that manager.  Is this Alan Niven the guy he was talking about?

Is that Axl interview real? And this letter?
Isn't it exactly what this Alan Niven guy is up to right now on VR?
It seems that he goes behind Scott's back and trying to get the rest to leave Scott.
Or is it Slash?

Too much in his letter. disgusting. As if nobody knows Axl can write but him!
Go away reactionary!

[Markus Asraelius]

Haha Slash isnt back in Guns.. VR is coming out with a new album, and besides if he left, do u think Scott, Matt, or Duff would let him go without making it public and spilling the beans on this HUGE reuinion between axl n slash..

Its nothing but a dream..

Yeah a VR dance concept album. That is gonna rock?

He must of had a dream about studio 54 and how great it could be.

[fever dream]

Scott's vocals suck, his writing sucks both in STP and VR I mean c'mon it looks like a middle school kid wrote those lyrics give me a break. And you have to admit it's not like Slash or duff are pushing the limits on musicianship, they could play that shit with their eyes shut and one arm tied behind their backs. Scotts dragging them down. GNR was talent. And Axl is keeping the talent there he's pushing his limits not putting something half assed out like a VR album. Axl might be taking his good old time but the quality speaks for itself and at least he knows what page he's on. VR doesn't know who's saying what about whom. And for gods sake each member of VR says the next albums gonna be different then what each other member says.

[Sterlingdog]

Is that Axl interview real? And this letter?
Isn't it exactly what this Alan Niven guy is up to right now on VR?
It seems that he goes behind Scott's back and trying to get the rest to leave Scott.
Or is it Slash?

Too much in his letter. disgusting. As if nobody knows Axl can write but him!
Go away reactionary!

The Axl interview is real, its on this site.  I think its the one called I, Axl by Del James.  But I got it mixed up, Axl said Izzy was the one who went behind his back to turn the other guys against him. But he was clearly pissed that Izzy hooked up with Niven. 

As far as if the letter is real, I don't think anyone has proven it to be true or false at this point.