use your illusion 1

[WhosGilby?]

Dust N Bones is Fucking sweet,actually all the songs of that album are

[Sparksry]

There good but not as good as AFD

[Niko]

this is discussion goes nowhere
because

AFD was like just one genre
but the Illussions have very different songs..so it depends on the taste of everyone who hear the albums
for some people the underrated onees are better than the mtv classics....for some not
so i think because this are albums with very different pieces i think it depends on the taste of everyone who listen to it

i hope my poor english doesnt stop you from understanding what i ve tried to say..
thanks =)

[DCGNR2006]

Depending on my mood that day or week, I am just as likely to throw UYI on as UYII. Both have a couple of songs that I was never crazy about.
Coma is one of my favorites of any band, or song ever. I can listen to N.Rain or Estranged now, and unless I"m in the right frame of mind, I can lose
interest sometimes. Coma & Locomotive still hit me strong. I think both Illusions were perfect for that time and will always be 2 of my favorite albums, if not my favorites , untill the day I die......and I have a funny feeling Democracy is going to hit me the same way -

[kaddisonmoore]

also did u hear about the line up at record stores when it first came out

This is absolutely true.? I was there at Specs in Fort Lauderdale, FL. and it was CRAZY!? There had to be 300+ people in like by 10 PM that night.? (Store opened at Midnight to sell the CDs)

-darknemus

think that is crazy...wait till CD
i know it wont be the same at all but i was only like 10 months old when illusions came out soo...

[Niko]

Depending on my mood that day or week, I am just as likely to throw UYI on as UYII. Both have a couple of songs that I was never crazy about.
Coma is one of my favorites of any band, or song ever. I can listen to N.Rain or Estranged now, and unless I"m in the right frame of mind, I can lose
interest sometimes. Coma & Locomotive still hit me strong. I think both Illusions were perfect for that time and will always be 2 of my favorite albums, if not my favorites , untill the day I die......and I have a funny feeling Democracy is going to hit me the same way -

locomotive have amazing lyrics!!!!!!!

[NorthwindNS]

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.............then the next level lower
don't cry
the garden

then the rest for me is just tons of filler really... So many songs sound alike lots of yelling or similar..
terrible like
bad obsession
you ain't the first
bad apples
garden of eden
dust n bones
back off bitch


I think if any album was slash's album it was this one, I don't mean his album as in idea, just the guitar playing on this album is amazing and saves many songs... Like The garden he fucking owns that song, Coma, november rain both him and axl rock, but the guitar is amazing.. For me on a lot of these songs the band itself instrumentaly were tighter or the saviors of many of the songs.. Cause without some of that work these are just blah songs

Either way I just feel this is the one gnr album loaded with filler, with hints of brilliance

Wow. Are you serious? I respect your opinion but come on!!!!!

NorthwindNS

[NorthwindNS]

both illusion albums are mostly rubbish and overblown.

cant stand listening to them.

YOU ARE FUCKING CRAZY!!!! FUCKING CRAZY!!!! oh my!!!! YA KNOW YOUR CRAZY!!!!

[Gunner80]

both illusion albums are mostly rubbish and overblown.

cant stand listening to them.

Get lost, you witless fool.

[Genesis]

I love Back Off Bitch... The lyrics are kick ass... "It's time to burn... Burn the witch!" 

[Ineverlearn000022]

Whoever started this thread is an idiot....Capitol I. 

The whole fucking CD is awesome from "Right next door to heel...to...Coma"  Enuf said.

Great music, and thats why we are here.

[kaasupoltin]

How can anyone claim that Dust n' Bones is a filler? It's one of the best Gn'R songs ever, especially live.

Here's my opinion about the tracks on UYI I:

Right Next Door To Hell: Works good as an opener of the album or a live show, but it has never been any kind of favourite of mine.
Dust N' Bones: Like I said this is one of my favourite Gn'R songs, and as a live song it's fucking great! Slash has great guitar melodies and the vocal work is just brilliant (Izzy, Duff and Axl together = amazing )
Live And Let Die: Fits on the album, but is kinda lame after many times of listening. I like the 2002-version of it, Axl sounds great.
Don't Cry (Original): Well, what can I say.. Great song with great guitar solos. Brilliant.
Perfect Crime: I love it. The live version is even better, just listen to Helsinki or St. Louis bootlegs and you know what I'm talkin' about It has such a great attitude..
You Ain't The First: First I didn't like it at all.. I just didn't understand it. But now when I have listened to it many times, I actually like it. It's like UTLH to me. A fun song with a nice melody.
Bad Obsession: The intro is great.. I love the sound of harmonica. And Axl's voice is working here. Great song!
Back Off Bitch: A great tune with a great attitude, once again I just love Axl's voice.
Double Talkin Jive: I found this song through the live version. And I still prefer the live version more, but this is amazing fucking song! Matt's drumming is simply great, especially on the longer version. It's kinda sad that they didn't record it, 'cause the part after the chorus is absolutely brilliant The band makes awesome job.
November Rain: Great.
The Garden: First I thought that this is the strangest song I have ever heard. Then I started to like Slash's solos and melodies, and now I like the whole song. I just hope that Axl would have done Alice's parts too (no, I'm not saying that Alice sucks, but I dont like his sound on this song).
Garden Of Eden: The video is great A fun song, but it's one of the least favourite tracks of Gn'R to me. But it's still good
Don't Damn Me: Awesome guitar riffs. Slash is just great. I also like Axl's vocal work..
Bad Apples: I like it. It's kinda 'light' song, but still one of my favourites. But I think that it could be better with a little more work..
Dead Horse: Same thing as Bad Apples.
Coma: Oh yeah.. what an ending for an album like this. Duff's riffs are awesome, Slash's solos are amazing, Axl sounds great and Matt's drumming is wonderful. One of the best songs ever. Last verse is simply brilliant..

Great album. That's all I can say. But I don't think that Gn'R has ever recorded a bad song.. there is only good songs, very good songs and great songs

[ClintroN]

then the rest for me is just tons of filler really... So many songs sound alike lots of yelling or similar..
terrible like
bad obsession
you ain't the first
bad apples
garden of eden
dust n bones
back off bitch

Bad Apples i do like but prob. my least fav. of all!!

i just havta say....
You Aint The First   is fuckin' unreal, i love singin' this when im pissed (drunk), its a ballad n' a ahalf!!!
Garden Of Eden   is AFD ALL OVER, n' thats not why i like it, it just fuckin' rocks, big time!! i love it!!

the rest rock!!!

[boston]

it has some good tunes, and I know no one on this board likes "spaghetti incident", but I love that record,
 which leaves "ilusions 1" as the worst CD they ever released, completly agree

You think UYI I is worse than Lies?

off course, LIES is half "live like a suicide", and the accoustic side is just as good, no one here understands the decline of GNR began before the APPETITE tour was even over, it was done, over , nothing better will ever come after 1988

that will never change

everything now is just bonus tracks

that is, if it even happens

[Janabis]

I have to say that Dust N' Bones is probably my least favourite track off UYI. I just can't get excited about listening to Izzy sing. He can write great songs for sure, but his vocals are just plain boring compared to a guy like Axl. I never liked DTJ for the same reason. I'd say my favourite tracks on UYI I are The Garden, Garden of Eden, Don't Cry, and November Rain. They definitely made the right choices for the singles. Most of 'Coma' is brilliant, but the cheesy sound effects and background vocals drag it way down.

[estrangedpaul]

How can anyone claim that Dust n' Bones is a filler? It's one of the best Gn'R songs ever, especially live.

Here's my opinion about the tracks on UYI I:

Right Next Door To Hell: Works good as an opener of the album or a live show, but it has never been any kind of favourite of mine.
Dust N' Bones: Like I said this is one of my favourite Gn'R songs, and as a live song it's fucking great! Slash has great guitar melodies and the vocal work is just brilliant (Izzy, Duff and Axl together = amazing )
Live And Let Die: Fits on the album, but is kinda lame after many times of listening. I like the 2002-version of it, Axl sounds great.
Don't Cry (Original): Well, what can I say.. Great song with great guitar solos. Brilliant.
Perfect Crime: I love it. The live version is even better, just listen to Helsinki or St. Louis bootlegs and you know what I'm talkin' about It has such a great attitude..
You Ain't The First: First I didn't like it at all.. I just didn't understand it. But now when I have listened to it many times, I actually like it. It's like UTLH to me. A fun song with a nice melody.
Bad Obsession: The intro is great.. I love the sound of harmonica. And Axl's voice is working here. Great song!
Back Off Bitch: A great tune with a great attitude, once again I just love Axl's voice.
Double Talkin Jive: I found this song through the live version. And I still prefer the live version more, but this is amazing fucking song! Matt's drumming is simply great, especially on the longer version. It's kinda sad that they didn't record it, 'cause the part after the chorus is absolutely brilliant The band makes awesome job.
November Rain: Great.
The Garden: First I thought that this is the strangest song I have ever heard. Then I started to like Slash's solos and melodies, and now I like the whole song. I just hope that Axl would have done Alice's parts too (no, I'm not saying that Alice sucks, but I dont like his sound on this song).
Garden Of Eden: The video is great A fun song, but it's one of the least favourite tracks of Gn'R to me. But it's still good
Don't Damn Me: Awesome guitar riffs. Slash is just great. I also like Axl's vocal work..
Bad Apples: I like it. It's kinda 'light' song, but still one of my favourites. But I think that it could be better with a little more work..
Dead Horse: Same thing as Bad Apples.
Coma: Oh yeah.. what an ending for an album like this. Duff's riffs are awesome, Slash's solos are amazing, Axl sounds great and Matt's drumming is wonderful. One of the best songs ever. Last verse is simply brilliant..

Great album. That's all I can say. But I don't think that Gn'R has ever recorded a bad song.. there is only good songs, very good songs and great songs

I Agree with this

[mikegiuliana]

both illusion albums are mostly rubbish and overblown.

cant stand listening to them.

No. No they're really not. I think they ar better then appetite in their own regards. The epics are unbelievable. I don't really see any "filler". The Black Sabbath song fluff is filler, nothing on illusions.

Mike, UYI I is my favorite! Dust N' Bones, Bad apples c'mon man!

Listen on any given day I can enjoy any gnr songs, but once you have been listening to these albums for about 14-15 years and are able to listen to different songs at different stages you see what stays with you or creates the same buzz as when you first bought it.. No one can say the way they felt as a teen listening to a certain album new is going to be the same 15 years later...

I said I think coma, right next dooor to hell, NR, perfect crime, dtjm & ddm are all classics...  ten years ago I might have had a different list with the exception of maybe coma n november rain..

I'm really suprised no one even thought about saying how slash owned these songs guitar wise...  As I mentioned in my first post he fucking ripps through the garden

To myself many of the songs are similar in the pace axl sings or the volume in his voice, the only real way for me to see the difference is by the musicians in the band,.... Are there any songs by groups you love simply better because of the guitar work, or a song that the p[layers themselves exceed the singer?? That would be like my Highlight in Freebird is the guitars, not the singing.. The singing rules, but without that guitar work it's not as special... Same goes with Stairway to heaven..

[estrangedpaul]

TSI succeeds greatly for what it is.

Illusion albums fail miserably for what they try to be, which lets face it, UYI tries to be the greatest album since the white album, which results in a shockingly embarrassing bloated monstrous album. A great failure. People keep saying "it would be one of the best albums if it was one album" too bad, its not one album.

anyone who cant see this epitomises the word bellend.

The Illusions are way better than the White Album. The White Album has just as much filler (Revolution no.9 = My World) but UYI has more classics, and lets face it all albums should be judged by the its best songs, not its worst. I think that's people's problem with the UYI albums is that they concentrate too much on the weaker songs. But judge them by the best songs, instead and you'll have a different attitude. No band made so many classic tracks in one recording session. I hate people saying its embarassing and bloated. When Led Zeppelin, Queen or The Beatles do 8-minute songs they're are considered complex classics. When GnR do it, they're considered too long, embarassing and bloated. What are you suggesting - they don't release November Rain because its a bit too long for some people? Who cares about the length - its what's in the songs that counts, and the 6 seven- minute plus songs on UYI are simply amazing and unparalleled. There is very few people who like all the songs. There are always a couple songs different people don't like but you could say the same about other double albums like Physical Graffiti and the White Album. But UYI has more classics. Even AFD has a couple of songs I don't always listen to. Personally I prefer ?Dust N' Bones, Bad Obsession, Double Talkin' Jive, Don't Damn Me, ?etc. to My Michelle, Think About You, You're Crazy or Anything Goes.

Seen as we are talking about UYI1 - compare AFD to the 12 best songs of UYI1 (RTDTH, DNB, Don't Cry, Bad Obsession, Back Off Bitch, DTJ, November Rain, The Garden, Garden Of Eden, Don't Damn Me, Dead Horse and Coma). IMHO, as a collection of great songs, they're quite close. Although, admittedly AFD, flows much better. I rarely skip over songs on AFD because they flow into each other so well. But compare the songs individually and it's quite close.

Soloing wise the two UYI albums contain the best collection of solos ever. They're all so different, particulary on UYI II, so I prefer the solos on that album. But UYI 1 has some amazing solos too, as well as some great riffs - Coma has the heaviest riff ever!

[mikegiuliana]

Soloing wise the two UYI albums contain the best collection of solos ever. They're all so different, particulary on UYI II, so I prefer the solos on that album. But UYI 1 has some amazing solos too, as well as some great riffs - Coma has the heaviest riff ever!

Slash fucking owns these albums... I still love when someone feels gnr was axl alone..   The coma riff fucking rocks the house down... The garden too, how he ripps it up all through estranged.. 

[coolman78SLASH]

Soloing wise the two UYI albums contain the best collection of solos ever. They're all so different, particulary on UYI II, so I prefer the solos on that album. But UYI 1 has some amazing solos too, as well as some great riffs - Coma has the heaviest riff ever!

Slash fucking owns these albums... I still love when someone feels gnr was axl alone.. ? The coma riff fucking rocks the house down... The garden too, how he ripps it up all through estranged..?

Yeah, a lot of great riffs and shredding + melodic solos on both albums!