Reactions/opinions from non-die hard fans

[DoubleTalkingJive]

Brings up another point It is completely useless to compare old vs new gnr. Quite obvious, that they are really completely different animals-REALLY different. WTTJ is on the absolute opposite end of the spectrum from Better.

That is exactly what I have posted before...the new can't and shouldn't be compared with the old, completely different, for us anyway...non die hard fans will do that though, you will hear stuff like that all the time from them, just look at the posts that have been posted.   

[ppbebe]

Deep inside we all want others to like what we do

everyone should be exposed to good music.

(3) are the Morrisey/Westerberg crowd, hate Axl, and will rip apart anything he does, simply because they are elitist pricks and see GN'R as a bloated cock-rock band.

Maybe your closed minded because you can't accept that other people don't like GnR (Axl). Or you call them "elitist pricks" just because they don't like something you do, get over it.

They are "elitist pricks" because they call GN'R "buttrock" and lump Axl in with Poison and Warrant.

I do like the smith?Count me. 
I bet  half the "elitist pricks" will be the ones that fall for Chinese democracy most badly when it comes out.

[mikegiuliana]

enjoy.. Look at what jerkoofs think


warning some people have some nasty shit in their sigs, as in nudes

Sorry, but I don't take these people's opinions seriously... Just an example:

''I don't even have to listen to taht shit to tell you it sucks...'' by dasnake
''Sorry, I refuse to listen to any of their shit until Axl gives me my 5 bucks back!!'' - by Dr. Kunt
''I can't stand GNR so I wont even click those links.'' - by QueenBitch1

 

Oh, and by the way MG: why don't you just admit that you want this band to fail miserably? Because that's clearly what you want. One just needs to read your posts to see that.

I don not want this to fail miserably, just because i don't oh and ah for every little thing doesn't mean I don't care...

Some of those people on that board just don't like axl rose plus they know I love gnr so they instantly give shitty remarks

[spacebrain5000]

Ok, well I had one of my high school friends listen to the demos today, she isn't even into rock n' roll  80's metal scene but she was curious anyway.

On Better she said: this would make a really good single. And that she really liked it.
IRS: She said, too repetitive, didn't like it as much
TWAT: amazing guitar work, "interesting" in a good way, "Good", not her type of thing but could appreciate the talent.
But Better she said was her favorite. Despite that she's not even a fan of GN'R, and any of that type of music, mostly weird indie stuff, she really liked it. How fucking cool is that? That even people who don't even like that type of music like "Better"??
 

[Smoking Guns]

Axl's voice on Better is the Raspy type we always wanted during the 2002 shows.....crazy.

[Irish rose]

I played the songs for a friend in work. Her opinion was much the same as mine...thought twat was very good, couldnt really get into better cos it was too far from the old style and just thought IRS was ok but nothin special

[Kaybee]

My brother (who likes Guns n Roses, but doesn't love them) is walking around the house right now singing 'Better' since I've had it on like 24/7. He said he really likes it, aside from the introduction.

[mikegiuliana]

are we not the most annoying fuckers with these demos?? passing them on to anyone and evryone that has ears..  I have been posting the links everywhere I can, people are so sick of my love for gnr as a whole..

[Kaybee]

are we not the most annoying fuckers with these demos?? passing them on to anyone and evryone that has ears..? I have been posting the links everywhere I can, people are so sick of my love for gnr as a whole..

Haha I totally agree. My dad loves GNR (got me into them) and even he is like 'For God's sake give it a rest' 

[fear the juggalo]

i dj at a club on sundays. we play all types of music, alot of ramones, iggy & the stooges. white strips. that kind of stuff. ( even though i play alot of rap during my set. ) anyway i used to play chinese democracy. (from rio) people never really cared for it. this weekend i played i.r.s. & asked everybody to give me their opinions. it got very bad reviews. (i like the song), but the main thing people said was it sounded messy. i told them it was just a demo. i played t.wa.t & better a little later. the response was, "well those were better than that last song you played. anyway i ended the set with jungle, crowd went crazy, i had people say thats gnr, not that other crap. anyway i love the new stuff & i'm very burnt out on the old stuff. i cant wait for the cd, i will be flying out to the nova festival just to see them.

[jmapelian]

Yeah that's what I get too... But what do you expect.

I'd say it's an honest assesment......alot of my friends thought the new stuff sucked sweaty balls

I swear, you'd think I was committing chinese water torture on them

Absolutely hated, and that word is not strong enough, hated: IRS, Better, Maddy, and The Blues (especially The Blues)  They all said the same thing, his voice was anoying as hell and the music sucked

[jmapelian]

Alot of people on general rock forums have said the stuff is average, very mediocre

And what songs/bands do they seem to like??

what does it matter?  wen i played it for y friends I didn't tell them who it was so there was no anti axl sentiment

and if people think the guys a prick / asshole, he did everything possible to earn the rap IMO

[MR W,AXL ROSE]

my mate is a big rnb and rap fan.he has been for years and it takes a good rock song for him to like it.anyway we were out yesterday in the car and i put t.w.a.t on and he liked it.but heres the thing,i put better on and he was well into it.his words were "that will reach nuber 1 if its a single" and "id buy the album for that song alone".if we are ever out in his car,not mine,he always plays his 2pac mp3 or sumfin like 50 cents massacre,but on this occasion he actually put my cd in and played better a couple of times over.

[jmapelian]

I'd consider 3-4 million copies over the first couple of years success. I think some people still think it's 1991. 3-4 million over the first couple of years would not be a failure.

they should consider that a huge success.....since AFD, there album sales have decreased by 1/2 of what the previous did....that'll put CD at about 1.3-1.5mil in the US

[jmapelian]

are you ok?

You do realise I didn't write any of that, I just copy and pasted what different people were saying about the new songs? ?

I find some of the comments funny

[jmapelian]

Chinese Democracy could consist of thirteen masterpieces and people will still bury it.

It's called being 'bitter'.

or they could just not like the music very much

[jmapelian]

Brings up another point while I'm soapboxing It is completely useless to compare old vs new gnr. Quite obvious that they are really completely different animals-REALLY different. WTTJ is on the absolute opposite end of the spectrum from Better. I love both and am as happy as a pig in shit right now:hihi:

most people, compare bands songs to others from the same band.....and compare diferent albums from the same band...to say t's uselessis just ignorant

yeh, it's a completely differen band....then change the fucking name of it

[The Dog]

My friend TBags, who is what I would consider your average fan, def not a die hard, prob knows a LITTLE bit about the new band/old members in VR and what not, had this to say about the new songs:  FYI - he works for a government agency, hence the fbi reference:

TWAT:
only one i've listened to so far - very solid song.  good lyrics.  last
couple minutes - the guitar is unreal.  Axl's voice sounds good - like
the Axl of old.  if they attempt another tour, i'm in for a concert...since i missed the
last one.

IRS:
not a bad song... i like the fbi shout out hahah.   yeah, he sounds
good. 
the fake drums are weird - makes the soung sound weird.




--now i just have to get him to hear better...very curious what his take will be.

[ShotgunBlues1978]

Brings up another point while I'm soapboxing It is completely useless to compare old vs new gnr. Quite obvious that they are really completely different animals-REALLY different. WTTJ is on the absolute opposite end of the spectrum from Better. I love both and am as happy as a pig in shit right now:hihi:

That said, IRS is that different from WTTJ and Better isn't that different from SCOM, musically it's different but the vibes are similar.  For the most part though, I agree.  It's a different type of music with different goals

[funkydrummer]

What's up everybody, I'm new here but I have been checking in every few months just to see if there's any news on the album.  I have been lurking on the message board the past few days.  I might bring an interesting perspective to this thread.  I haven't read the whole thread yet so forgive me if I repeat anything you've already heard. 

I am not a "die-hard" Gunner.  GnR was definitely my favorite band from about '88 thru '91 or so (I was in junior high school at the time).   After that, Metallica took over my brain for a while, then prog-rock, funk, jazz, the blues, and all kinds of other stuff.  Now I'm 30 years old and a working musician.  I rarely listen to metal anymore, these days it's almost always jazz and funk.  In fact, I listen to a lot of guys that Buckethead was playing with before Guns (George Clinton, Bootsy Colllins, Bill Laswell, Les Claypool, Praxis, etc), along with a healthy dose of Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Muddy Waters and the like.   

Anyway, I found the new tracks while looking for something else over the weekend and wasn't expecting much at all.  I am happy to say that I was in for a big surprise.  I don't care much for that live version of The Blues that is floating around, but the studio tracks BLEW ME AWAY.   I listened to them maybe 2 dozen times each after I downloaded them.  I was not impressed with the MTV thing in '02 and at that time I expected that there would never be another Guns N' Roses album worth listening to.  But after the past few days, Axl has made a believer out of me again.  These songs are really good.  It really sounded like Guns and F'n Roses!  I can't believe it.  I especially dig I.R.S.

I know I am not your typical music consumer or a typical Guns fan, but based on what I've heard on these demos, I'll be buying Chinese Democracy the first day it hits stores.