fuse countdown F list (dudes with tudes)

[Saul]

whoops , I misread the thread title .. I thought it said "dude with turds" 

[jmrgnr]

i thought he misspelled Tupes....cuz Bono and AXl  and Elton would be a 3 way tie....Axl's got real attitude.....Kurt couldn't handle life what a pussy... there is no attitude in suicide just weakness. Axl's still around to kick ass!

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

They've played Jungle on Fuse, mixed in with a bunch of guys surfing(i dunno, i'm still scratching my head on that one)

[da_pope]

Axl wasn't even the most badass member in GN'R...
But Guns should be #2 on that list... Ozzy #1. Seriously, the guy bit the head off a dove for fucksake!

I've seen many lists with Nevermind over AFD, You guys have to remember Nevermind is credited for starting a "revolution" in music.
Personally It's AFD > Nevermind. I only like two songs of Nevermind and those are Smells Like Teen Spirit and Come As You Are.

The only albums of the last 25 years I'd understand being above Appitite are Thriller and Nevermind.

[trojan]

^actually in vh1's top 100 songs of the past 25 years it was
3. SCOM
2. Billy Jean - Michael Jackson
1. Smells Like teen spirit


Kurt cobain was a terrible terrible guitarist but amazing writer, but he just didnt make good music with the lyrics in my opinion.  As for bad ass, nirvana was not.  Nirvana was pretty far away from that, kurt himself always bitched about getting beat up in high school which is not bad ass at all, its pathetic.  Axl bitches about how people fuck him over and he is sensitive and is an ass hole like kurt blowbrains, but at least axl has a medical condition, kurt was just a little bitch.  I give Kurt BlowBrains all the credit in the world for writing great songs but bad ass? fuck no.  No one in nirvana was bad ass.  There were 5 guys in gnr who were bad ass. 

just my 2 cents

[Smoking Guns]

I love GnR but Nirvana IMHO really are a better more consistant band.

That has to be a fucking joke.

No, it isn't. Where does AFD fall on greatest album lists v.s. Nevermind and In Utero.

I love GnR but Nirvana they aren't.

afd always blows in utero away, no band in history can compete with nevermind, and it's not because it's teh best.. Take kurt cobain's death away and it wouldn't be as high... SLTS is listed as the number one rock song in many countdowns, that alone shows the polls are fucking wrong..

Holy fock, Mike, James, are we really reading this?  Oh my focking God.  Listen, nobody even drives around listening to Nirvana anymore.  They will not stand the test of time.   Their shit sounds so dated already.  They were good for their time.  Had GNR died after Appetite they would be considered the greatest band of all time.   Pearl Jam is better then Nirvana.  Nirvana, the Beatles of Alternative.

[mikegiuliana]

I love GnR but Nirvana IMHO really are a better more consistant band.

That has to be a fucking joke.

No, it isn't. Where does AFD fall on greatest album lists v.s. Nevermind and In Utero.

I love GnR but Nirvana they aren't.

afd always blows in utero away, no band in history can compete with nevermind, and it's not because it's teh best.. Take kurt cobain's death away and it wouldn't be as high... SLTS is listed as the number one rock song in many countdowns, that alone shows the polls are fucking wrong..

Holy fock, Mike, James, are we really reading this?? Oh my focking God.? Listen, nobody even drives around listening to Nirvana anymore.? They will not stand the test of time.? ?Their shit sounds so dated already.? They were good for their time.? Had GNR died after Appetite they would be considered the greatest band of all time.? ?Pearl Jam is better then Nirvana.? Nirvana, the Beatles of Alternative.

afd is better I said that but it((nevermind) is seen as the death blow to a movement that owned music for a decade.. I never looked at never mind as grunge, just like AIC, or STP I always looked at it as rock music

[jameslofton29]

I never looked at never mind as grunge, just like AIC, or STP I always looked at it as rock music

I never understood why some people labeled STP as grunge. They clearly were not. How could anyone have listened to core and thought that was grunge? Same with AIC. When I seen them live when Facelift first came out, they opened for Anthrax, Slayer, and Megadeth. Do people think those bands are grunge too?

[mikegiuliana]

I never looked at never mind as grunge, just like AIC, or STP I always looked at it as rock music

I never understood why some people labeled STP as grunge. They clearly were not. How could anyone have listened to core and thought that was grunge? Same with AIC. When I seen them live when Facelift first came out, they opened for Anthrax, Slayer, and Megadeth. Do people think those bands are grunge too?

AIC was definetly borderline metal ,no question..

[jameslofton29]

I never looked at never mind as grunge, just like AIC, or STP I always looked at it as rock music

I never understood why some people labeled STP as grunge. They clearly were not. How could anyone have listened to core and thought that was grunge? Same with AIC. When I seen them live when Facelift first came out, they opened for Anthrax, Slayer, and Megadeth. Do people think those bands are grunge too?

AIC was definetly borderline metal ,no question..

I also put Soundgarden in that category as well. Just listen to Louder than Love and Badmotorfinger. That is clearly not grunge.

[trojan]

soundgarden was too talented to be grunge, plus chris cornell can sing

[Continental Drift]

It's interesting that when you really break it down.... Nirvana's "legendary" reputation is based mostly on the sea change they initiated in popular music (and demonstrated by the flood of similar bands that followed) as opposed to  Nirvana's actual MUSIC itself. SLTS is a legendary tune... Nirvana MTV Unplugged is a legendary performance/cd... after that it all pretty much tails off for Nirvana itself though... it's almost like Nirvana's given bonus points for: (a) the success that bands like Pearl Jam, STP, Soundgarden, Collective Soul, Soul Asylum, Creed, etc. had after Nirvana hit the scene; AND (b) all the supposed legendary albums Cobain would have authored had he stuck around [although judging by his full body of work (and not just the opening riff to SLTS)... I'm not convinced of that fact at all]...

As far as who had the best "attitude"... I don't really fucking know... Axl and Kurt were very similar in a lot ways though (more so than people on this board care to acknowledge)... Axl had the balls to criticize and disrespect KISS and Iron Maiden when he was a young hot shot.... and likewise, Cobain had the balls to call Axl out at the peak of Axl's powers (not an easy thing to do in 1992)... that took guts since the whole industry and public had basically put GN'R on a pedastal and annointed them the "next Rolling Stones" etc... I may not have agreed with Cobain... but that showed a certain amount of attitude... he could have just gone after easier targets like Poison, Motley Crue, Warrant, Bon Jovi, etc... but instead he took on GN'R...

I give major credit to Axl for recognizing the significance and brilliance of Nirvana though... Cobain acted like an ignorant close-minded fuck when it came to GN'R music...

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

When did Axl disrespect KISS and Iron Maiden?

[Continental Drift]

When did Axl disrespect KISS and Iron Maiden?

I believe at the Donnington shows in 1988... there's actually a video clip of it out there too if you look hard enough... anyway a British reporter asks Axl if Guns N' Roses has anything in common with KISS or Iron Maiden... and Axl says something like: "God I hope not." The interviewer asks Axl to clarify and he basically just said that KISS and Maiden put their primary focus on selling records and fucking chicks first... then the music, but that with GN'R the music comes first always, but even so... they still find enough time for chicks.

He does say that he respected both bands' "earlier" work though...

[mikegiuliana]

I can see bashing KISS because gene simmons if a fucking tool and they are loaded with rock cliches(sp).. Maiden though.. Bruce has some serious pipes on him.. SOmetimes I  see a maiden vid and think that's axl's older brother.. Listen to how zxl sounded in Hollywood rose... Little bruce n queensryche there

[damnsmooth]

It's interesting that when you really break it down.... Nirvana's "legendary" reputation is based mostly on the sea change they initiated in popular music (and demonstrated by the flood of similar bands that followed) as opposed to  Nirvana's actual MUSIC itself. SLTS is a legendary tune... Nirvana MTV Unplugged is a legendary performance/cd... after that it all pretty much tails off for Nirvana itself though... it's almost like Nirvana's given bonus points for: (a) the success that bands like Pearl Jam, STP, Soundgarden, Collective Soul, Soul Asylum, Creed, etc. had after Nirvana hit the scene; AND (b) all the supposed legendary albums Cobain would have authored had he stuck around [although judging by his full body of work (and not just the opening riff to SLTS)... I'm not convinced of that fact at all]...

As far as who had the best "attitude"... I don't really fucking know... Axl and Kurt were very similar in a lot ways though (more so than people on this board care to acknowledge)... Axl had the balls to criticize and disrespect KISS and Iron Maiden when he was a young hot shot.... and likewise, Cobain had the balls to call Axl out at the peak of Axl's powers (not an easy thing to do in 1992)... that took guts since the whole industry and public had basically put GN'R on a pedastal and annointed them the "next Rolling Stones" etc... I may not have agreed with Cobain... but that showed a certain amount of attitude... he could have just gone after easier targets like Poison, Motley Crue, Warrant, Bon Jovi, etc... but instead he took on GN'R...

I give major credit to Axl for recognizing the significance and brilliance of Nirvana though... Cobain acted like an ignorant close-minded fuck when it came to GN'R music...

Nice fuckin' post man, but I feel that Nirvana would have been nothing more than a flash in the pan had the bitch not killed himself.  People give them credit for killing G'N'R but G'N'R actually killed themselves.  I still think it's sad that a band with so little talent can even be compared with G'N'R

[Mandy.]

Maiden though.. Bruce has some serious pipes on him.. SOmetimes I? see a maiden vid and think that's axl's older brother.. Listen to how zxl sounded in Hollywood rose... Little bruce n queensryche there

So true!!

[Origen]

Axl dissed Paul Stanley (Kiss) on 2nd October 1987 in Amsterdam, The Netherlands:

Before the second song Move To The City, Axl talks about how some older generation rockstars got a lot of shit to say about GN'R. He says GN'R aren't trying to be nobody but themselves and that "people like Paul Stanley from Kiss can suck my dick! And some of these old guys, that say we're ripping them off, maybe they should listen to some of their earlier albums and remember how to play them".

Check the htgth history 


If you asked the general public to name all the Nirvana they know they could probably only name 1 (Smells Like Teen Spirit).

Now if you asked the general public to name all the GnR songs they know they could probably name 4 (WTTJ, SCOM, November Rain, Paradise City)


Nirvana are over rated, I'm not saying they helped grunge music to be born but they are still over rated, if Kurt had not died I bet there would be less hype about them.

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

Uncle Axl better check himself, shit, I bought Rock in Rio (2001).  Iron Maiden sounds as good as they would have in the 80's, while at the same festival, Axl was there with a completely different lineup and sounded like crap.  Funny how shit's coming back to bite him in the ass.

[trojan]

iron maiden wasnt that good imo