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« on: March 17, 2006, 02:57:47 AM »

Judge Refuses to Slash Verdict in Guns N' Roses Suit
Riotous crowd's appetite for destruction resulted in plaintiff's ankle injury
Asher Hawkins
The Legal Intelligencer
03-17-2006

A Philadelphia judge has declined to remit the six-figure verdict a jury awarded to a woman who claimed a December 2002 ankle injury outside the then-First Union Center was caused by arena management's failure to foresee and prevent the riotous behavior sure to sweep the crowd once the cancellation of a Guns N' Roses concert was announced.

Michelle Heenan was, at the time of the accident, a single 39-year-old Northeast Philadelphia resident who worked as an administrative assistant at a local hospital.

Heenan asserted that defendants Comcast Spectator and Spectrum Arena Limited Partnership should have recognized the crowd would become unruly when the rock band's Philadelphia show was canceled, as roughly a month earlier, Guns N' Roses fans in Vancouver, British Columbia, had rioted when the band called off its show in that city.

Heenan had also filed suit against the band and various tour and concert promotion companies, but those defendants were either dismissed or granted nonsuits.

In the spring of 2005, the jury in Heenan v. Comcast Spectator found against Comcast Spectator and Spectrum Arena Limited and awarded Heenan $140,000.

In an opinion filed last week, Philadelphia Common Pleas Judge Eugene E.J. Maier urged the Superior Court to affirm his denial of the defense's post-trial motions seeking JNOV, a new trial or remittitur.

According to the opinion, Heenan and friends went to the First Union Center (now the Wachovia Center) to see the Guns N' Roses show. Shortly after 11 p.m., after some opening acts had performed, an announcement came on, informing the audience that the headline act would not be performing that night.

Heenan testified that the audience became unruly and aggressive after the show was canceled, according to the opinion.

She said she saw food and drinks being thrown from the upper levels and that concertgoers were beginning to run toward the exits.

According to the opinion, the only security Heenan said she saw at the time consisted of two yellow-jacketed employees standing near the exits. Heenan said she got swept up with the crowd, fell and injured her ankle. A couple days later, she had a plate and three screws inserted.

Heenan claimed her injuries caused her to miss two months of work and has rendered her permanently unable to engage in activities such as skiing and rollerblading, according to the opinion.

During the trial, Maier wrote, Comcast Spectator vice president for security Michael Hasson testified as to the extensive damage done to the arena once the cancellation was announced. He described tens of thousands of dollars in estimated repairs, and also spoke of how some six people were hit with chairs during the unrest and required hospitalization.

Hasson also testified that arena management was aware of a possible show cancellation as early as 7:45 p.m. on the night in question. In the next hour or so, he ordered removed from the arena various objects that might be thrown by angry members of the crowd, which had been able to purchase beer during the preceding hours. Hasson testified he also had additional security personnel brought in.

Hasson, who testified he knew about the Vancouver incident in November 2002, acknowledged on the stand that he anticipated the crowd would become disruptive after the cancellation was announced, Maier wrote.

Terence Gibbs, a security expert for Heenan, testified at trial that the security staff in place that night had not been properly trained, and that teams of security personnel should have been in position to respond when the cancellation announcement was made.

"Mr. Hasson's testimony established that he was aware that this crowd was a hard rock crowd which required additional security even under normal circumstances," Maier wrote. "His testimony that he knew of the earlier cancellation supported Mr. Gibbs' opinion that he should have had a plan in place in the event of cancellation."

Maier, citing Section 344 of the Restatement of Torts, concluded that Heenan had met her burden of proof as to her negligence claim against Comcast Spectator and Spectrum Arena Limited. Section 344 concerns possessors of property who are negligent in providing a safe environment for business invitees.

"Under Section 344 ... defendants owed a duty to plaintiff to anticipate possible dangers and to take reasonable precautions against such," Maier wrote. "The hasty exit by nearly 14,000 Guns N' Roses fans, all disappointed, some angry and some violent, can be considered harmful third-party conduct [as] referred to in Section 344 which defendants should have anticipated and [against which they should have] formulated a plan to protect visitors such as plaintiff."

Maier also noted that Hasson had refused to call the December 2002 scene a "riot" during cross-examination by plaintiff's counsel but had used that exact term on direct.

He also found that though Heenan's medical bills had totaled only $60,000, and her lost wages only $5,800, "mere disparity between the amount of out-of-pocket expenses and the verdict will not by itself provide sufficient basis to upset the award."

Defense attorney Andrew Connolly of Post & Schell declined to comment on the case.

Heenan's lawyer, Philadelphia solo practitioner Frank Branella, said his client was pleased with the verdict.

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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2006, 04:51:02 AM »

I took me a little time to figure out that Slash had actually nothing to do with this.  hihi
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2006, 05:57:10 AM »

So they knew beforehand the show was probably going to be cancelled? That's news to me. I always thought Axl just didn't show up for whatever reason when the people were already in the stadium. Or did I read this not correctly? Difficult lawyer English, you know  Huh
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2006, 08:16:13 AM »

So they knew beforehand the show was probably going to be cancelled? That's news to me. I always thought Axl just didn't show up for whatever reason when the people were already in the stadium. Or did I read this not correctly? Difficult lawyer English, you know? Huh

The security HAD TO KNOW, as i was there, and there was a rumor that he Axl was not gonna show and that he was still in NYC;  everyone at this bar we were at on the concourse was talking about it
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2006, 09:52:01 AM »

Oh poor you, classicgunsfan. I feel really bad for all those fans who missed out on a GNR show.
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2006, 10:06:52 AM »

I took me a little time to figure out that Slash had actually nothing to do with this. hihi

Same here. lol
It sucks for that woman I guess.
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2006, 10:13:16 AM »

I took me a little time to figure out that Slash had actually nothing to do with this. hihi

Same here... I read the title like eight times and it didn't make sense to me.  I think it's good that she got rewarded.  It's obvious that the staff knew what was going to happen and they kept quiet about it, not allowing for an avenue of safety.  The event security team was negligent in providing an explanation that a reasonable person would provide, which in this event would be to notify the concert-goers immediately after finding out that the band wouldn't be playing.  I praise the judge for not overturning the decision.
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2006, 10:15:16 AM »

Yeah, but I'm sure other people got hurt worse and didn't sue. She just wants some attention, and blames Guns N' Roses on something indirect as a riot. The fans are the ones who insinuated it, not the band!
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2006, 10:21:24 AM »

Yeah, but I'm sure other people got hurt worse and didn't sue. She just wants some attention, and blames Guns N' Roses on something indirect as a riot. The fans are the ones who insinuated it, not the band!

All the suits against the band were thrown out... the one she won was against the arena and Comcast.
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2006, 01:11:42 PM »

I took me a little time to figure out that Slash had actually nothing to do with this. hihi

Same here... I read the title like eight times and it didn't make sense to me.? I think it's good that she got rewarded.? It's obvious that the staff knew what was going to happen and they kept quiet about it, not allowing for an avenue of safety.? The event security team was negligent in providing an explanation that a reasonable person would provide, which in this event would be to notify the concert-goers immediately after finding out that the band wouldn't be playing.? I praise the judge for not overturning the decision.

Once you read the 1st sentence in the article it's pretty obvious Grin
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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2006, 01:20:14 PM »

Yeah, but I'm sure other people got hurt worse and didn't sue. She just wants some attention, and blames Guns N' Roses on something indirect as a riot. The fans are the ones who insinuated it, not the band!
She just wants some attention? She had to have 3 screws put in her ankle, I'm pretty sure that is NOT what she wanted. She should be compensated if the event didn't handle the security problem appropriately.
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2006, 01:23:39 PM »

I took me a little time to figure out that Slash had actually nothing to do with this.? hihi


Same here.  Bad thread-title considering recent happenings.
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2006, 01:24:19 PM »

Yeah, but I'm sure other people got hurt worse and didn't sue. She just wants some attention, and blames Guns N' Roses on something indirect as a riot. The fans are the ones who insinuated it, not the band!
She just wants some attention? She had to have 3 screws put in her ankle, I'm pretty sure that is NOT what she wanted. She should be compensated if the event didn't handle the security problem appropriately.

She probably should have gotten more and if the band wasn't excluded from the suit, maybe that would provide Axl more incentive to keep his commitments. ?

Also, the event didn't handle security well at all.
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2006, 01:28:30 PM »

Yeah, but I'm sure other people got hurt worse and didn't sue. She just wants some attention, and blames Guns N' Roses on something indirect as a riot. The fans are the ones who insinuated it, not the band!
She just wants some attention? She had to have 3 screws put in her ankle, I'm pretty sure that is NOT what she wanted. She should be compensated if the event didn't handle the security problem appropriately.

She probably should have gotten more and if the band wasn't excluded from the suit, maybe that would provide Axl more incentive to keep his commitments. ?

Also, the event didn't handle security well at all.
What amazes me is that it's now been over 3 years and there still isn't a definitive answer on why GNR didn't show up. Hell, grand jury testimony is supposed to be confidential yet it leaks all the time (i.e. BALCO). That neither side will give an answer is stupid (Clear Channel, GNR). Actually, the fact that GNR's management NEVER says anything is totally asinine. I love the band and fully support them, but that really aggravates me.

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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2006, 01:30:21 PM »

Yeah, but I'm sure other people got hurt worse and didn't sue. She just wants some attention, and blames Guns N' Roses on something indirect as a riot. The fans are the ones who insinuated it, not the band!

It's not like the people just started to riot for shits and grins. ?To say the band not performing, after sitting through 3 hours of opening acts, is not the reason the riot started is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen posted on this or any other forum I've ever been on. ?

And than to say this woman, who fell in the stampede, busted up her ankle, and had $60K dollars in medical bills is out for attention.

Get a grip and get you're head out of Axl's ass.
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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2006, 08:36:03 PM »

I took me a little time to figure out that Slash had actually nothing to do with this.? hihi


Same here.? Bad thread-title considering recent happenings.

The thread title was just a copy of the article headline. I could have renamed it but instead put in brackets "(related to 02 tour)" - shouldn't be that hard to understand.
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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2006, 08:46:15 PM »

Yeah, but I'm sure other people got hurt worse and didn't sue. She just wants some attention, and blames Guns N' Roses on something indirect as a riot. The fans are the ones who insinuated it, not the band!

She had Screws put in her ankle for fucksake!
And how is the Riot indirect? Axl didn't show = Riot.

Some of you have your head so far up Axl's ass you can see his teeth.
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