Fortus & Finck

[Origen]

They have to do Paradise City but unless they change the way they played it they should just drop it. It's one of my favourite GnR tunes but on the 2002 it sounded horrible.

[the dirt]

You Could Be Mine sounded worse. Drop that.

[Neemo]

You Could Be Mine sounded worse. Drop that.

well they have to play some of the Singles from orig GnR or the casual fans will riot

live and let die was good, maybe do that. still, i say like 75% new stuff, but they need the album out in order to do that otherwise nobody will no what the fuck is going on. on average, people like to sing the songs with the band or at least know where the song is heading

[leesixxrose]

They have to do Paradise City but unless they change the way they played it they should just drop it. It's one of my favourite GnR tunes but on the 2002 it sounded horrible.

my god are you crazy man?? PC never sounded better!!!!! bucket head KILLED the solos on that and Nightrain..... the drums hit harder and it sounded fucking amazing.. I cant listen to the original recordings or live versions of PC or Nightrain anymore after hearing them played that way..... That new band is amazing playing those songs.....

[ppbebe]

Will the casual fans riot?

I must agree on that with you origin.
However it's Axl's singing style that didn't fit for the song.

Other AFD tunes played in 2002 were all fine.
Some of them sounded even better.

[the dirt]

live and let die was good, maybe do that.

Yeah, keep that.

As for YCBM, it stinks in more ways than one.

Now, 2 songs of Guns I can drum to perfection are the intro intro to PC and You Ain't the First, but I'm telling you, I can drum YCBM better than Brain. What on earth is he doing on this song???

Is he trying to make it sound cool or something?

[nesquick]

"Think about you" instrumental by the new band sounded dawn amazing in 2002 ?
Brain and Richard (he took the lead) were sick on that tune.

[leesixxrose]

"Think about you" instrumental by the new band sounded dawn amazing in 2002 ?
Brain and Richard (he took the lead) were sick on that tune.

so true.... that was the other song i wanted to name a few posts up.... that sounded amazing...

[Olorin]

I too thought paradise  city sounded truly awful in 2002, it sounded so tame, so flat, so empty - wheres the fucking passion?

[veritas55]

Neither Finck nor Fortus can play thoses finger tapping parts of Buckethead. They will have to be changed live unless we get a new guitarist who can do it. John 5 could.... Brian May could... EVH could..>!

As could about 1,000 other shredder guitarists.   Not that Buckethead isn't great -- and I for one will definitely miss his live playing -- but there are a ton of musician's institute / L.A. rocker dudes that play that way.  I suspect we will see one of them emerge in the next couple of months . . . .   

[nesquick]

A couple of month ago I made a Richard Fortus Video medley, you can see it here:
http://downloads.thenewguns.com/RichardFortus-Guitarmedley-by-nesquick-hostedatthenewgunsdotcom.mpg
(thanks to thenewguns.com, especially to rainX)

Sorry for the difference of sound level, it's just the soundboards were different from each shows, anyway put the sound loud.
Hope you'll enjoy it.

[Axl_owns_dexter]

Is he trying to make it sound cool or something?

I agree.  Somebody should have told Brain, "dude, you CAN'T play that intro."

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Brain plays the intro fine, I heard them live and it was fine. The bootlegs leave out parts.

[leesixxrose]

Brain plays the intro fine, I heard them live and it was fine. The bootlegs leave out parts.

i thought so too... it sounded ok... the only time i heard him fuck it up was at Rio.... i think some people need to re listen to the song and how it should be played coz Brain didnt fuck it up and he CAN play it...

[Mysteron]

Hey guys,

I remember reading a lot of comments on the third guitarist thread and others that people really think Fortus is an awesome guitarist... some even arguing that he should be the lead guitarist over Robin... Does anyone know some non-GN'R music out there available on cd where Fortus is playing? I'm having a hard time picking him out on the '02 bootlegs (he does have a solo during Rocket Queen right?) and the demos (if he's even on them). I'd like to check out some more of his playing for myself...

By the same token, can anyone recommend some cds with Robin Finck playing? I'm correct that he's not on the NIN studio albums right?

Many thanks.

And sorry mods if this is on the wrong board...

They are both extraordinary guitarists and extraordinary human beings.

Never doubt the Double F factor

[alternativemonkey]

Hey guys,

I remember reading a lot of comments on the third guitarist thread and others that people really think Fortus is an awesome guitarist... some even arguing that he should be the lead guitarist over Robin... Does anyone know some non-GN'R music out there available on cd where Fortus is playing? I'm having a hard time picking him out on the '02 bootlegs (he does have a solo during Rocket Queen right?) and the demos (if he's even on them). I'd like to check out some more of his playing for myself...

By the same token, can anyone recommend some cds with Robin Finck playing? I'm correct that he's not on the NIN studio albums right?

Many thanks.

And sorry mods if this is on the wrong board...

They are both extraordinary guitarists and extraordinary human beings.

Never doubt the Double F factor

I think "extraordinary human being" is a prerequisite to be in this band. Because no ordinary human being would put up with forcible silence, ten years of work with no result, and general insanity.

[Minneapolisnewsman]

Hey guys,

I remember reading a lot of comments on the third guitarist thread and others that people really think Fortus is an awesome guitarist... some even arguing that he should be the lead guitarist over Robin... Does anyone know some non-GN'R music out there available on cd where Fortus is playing? I'm having a hard time picking him out on the '02 bootlegs (he does have a solo during Rocket Queen right?) and the demos (if he's even on them). I'd like to check out some more of his playing for myself...

By the same token, can anyone recommend some cds with Robin Finck playing? I'm correct that he's not on the NIN studio albums right?

Many thanks.

And sorry mods if this is on the wrong board...

They are both extraordinary guitarists and extraordinary human beings.

Never doubt the Double F factor

Alternative Monkey, enough of the under-handed slaps!

Mysteron, you really made me laugh--"The Double F factor!!"  Well, i can make up many awful jokes in my dirty little mind, regarding "Double F factors!!" 

[alternativemonkey]

Hey guys,

I remember reading a lot of comments on the third guitarist thread and others that people really think Fortus is an awesome guitarist... some even arguing that he should be the lead guitarist over Robin... Does anyone know some non-GN'R music out there available on cd where Fortus is playing? I'm having a hard time picking him out on the '02 bootlegs (he does have a solo during Rocket Queen right?) and the demos (if he's even on them). I'd like to check out some more of his playing for myself...

By the same token, can anyone recommend some cds with Robin Finck playing? I'm correct that he's not on the NIN studio albums right?

Many thanks.

And sorry mods if this is on the wrong board...

They are both extraordinary guitarists and extraordinary human beings.

Never doubt the Double F factor

Alternative Monkey, enough of the under-handed slaps!

Mysteron, you really made me laugh--"The Double F factor!!"? Well, i can make up many awful jokes in my dirty little mind, regarding "Double F factors!!"?

  I can understand someone saying they are extraordinary "guitarists", but "human beings"? GNR isn't exactly solving the national debt crisis . . . or funding the cure for cancer. I'm a fan, but even I have limits.

Mysteron - Do you know these guys personally? If you do, you might know something I don't.

[nesquick]

what about the video footage?