Are Europeans more open to a Slash-less GN'R?

[Sakib]

Most of people think Slash is Still in the band.

when i tell my school m8s gn'r will be playing they are under the impression its Slash Duff etc. I have to tell them it isnt. Anyway, I dont care if Slash aint GN'R, the leaks and majority of new live songs are excellent with exception of silkworms, but i think GN'R are the best band out there atm judging by the leaks and the live new songs.

[CAFC Nick]

The fact VR made it may help people realize who isnt in GNR. At least thats my take on this side of the pond anyway.

Yeh thats exactly it. Everyone here across the pond in England and UK thought Slash was still in the band when the 02 tour came round (that is if anyone actually knew about the 02 tour) and then in 2003/4 when VR made it big and people saw Slash and Duff with VR (At download, Live 8 etc) they knew that Slash & Duff were no longer in GNR and they just thought GNR were defunct.

[boston]

It struck me when considering GN'R concerts are currently selling out in Europe - are Europeans more open to the idea of a Guns without Slash etc..?

I know that hip hop is nowhere near as big as it is in the US (or even down under), so this could have a lot to do with it, as it seems a lot of bands that are kind of washed up in other parts of the world still seem to make reasonable careers in other markets.

But does anyone think that perhaps Europeans are a little more sympatheic to Axl? or perhaps some of the negative press from 02 (riots, botox, VMAs etc..) didnt quite filter through?

Any thoughts??

I talked to some people overseas today, thye are advertsing these shows with commercials that show the original guns n roses, and make no mention of a 1 original member band showing up ??

[kaasupoltin]

Yeah, in Finland there is a TV-commercial (Hartwall Arena show) including parts of Live And Let Die video, and there's no mention about the current line-up or anything. Bad bad bad.

[RichardNixon]

People know bought tickets know.

Btw, the first show is just a few months away...they should mention who is currently in the band! WHO IS THE THIRD GUITAR PLAYER!!!!!!!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR 

[Koskenkorvasieni]

To whoever thought Slash was unknown in europe: Slash was recently voted the best international guitarplayer on finnish radio channel Radio City and thus became one of the first inductees into the Radio City Hall Of Fame. The other was Alexi Wildhild  Laiho from Children Of Bodom, who was voted best domestic (finnish) guitarplayer. And most of us finns know perfectly well that Axl is the only original member of Guns N' Roses and that Slash is in Velvet Revolver. In Fact, VR has already played two concerts here, one was an arena show and the other at Ruisrock summer festival in Turku. Both sold very well.

[WARose]

To whoever thought Slash was unknown in europe:  ...

do you really think anyone thought that?

[jimmythegent]

It struck me when considering GN'R concerts are currently selling out in Europe - are Europeans more open to the idea of a Guns without Slash etc..?

I know that hip hop is nowhere near as big as it is in the US (or even down under), so this could have a lot to do with it, as it seems a lot of bands that are kind of washed up in other parts of the world still seem to make reasonable careers in other markets.

But does anyone think that perhaps Europeans are a little more sympatheic to Axl? or perhaps some of the negative press from 02 (riots, botox, VMAs etc..) didnt quite filter through?

Any thoughts??

I talked to some people overseas today, thye are advertsing these shows with commercials that show the original guns n roses, and make no mention of a 1 original member band showing up ??

surely that would be false advertising?

[Journeyman]

i think the fans in europe know that slash isnt in gnr anymore, at least the people buying the tickets. But europe is a great gnr crowd andim very happy with the way arenas are being sold out around here 

[estebanf]

this is a very interesting topic. I think that, instead of being a question of ''continents'', it's mostly a question of age.

I think older people is more open to a Slash-less GNR than younger people

[jameslofton29]

I talked to some people overseas today, thye are advertsing these shows with commercials that show the original guns n roses, and make no mention of a 1 original member band showing up ??

WOW! This is starting to smell more like 2002 the closer we get to these shows. Axl has got to get some pics taken of the new band if he wants them to be taken seriously. How hard is it to take a few pictures?

[Axl4Prez2004]

I talked to some people overseas today, thye are advertsing these shows with commercials that show the original guns n roses, and make no mention of a 1 original member band showing up ??

WOW! This is starting to smell more like 2002 the closer we get to these shows. Axl has got to get some pics taken of the new band if he wants them to be taken seriously. How hard is it to take a few pictures?

   Seriously James, you are so dead-on with this post.  Familiarity is huge.  The band as a whole has to get its word out there.  Axl has a bad habit of carrying very heavy crosses around on his back.  In the States he gets blasted left and right, hell, even on this GNR fan board.  If the rest of the band wasn't muzzled (I can't prove they are, but damn we don't hear much from them) the public could get to know them, and the band could help fight the nay-sayers.  I think Axl may be protecting the new guys.  Just my take on it.    Let's get this fuckin thing started well before Lisbon!!!!!!!!!!!!!                  

[Booker Floyd]

I talked to some people overseas today, thye are advertsing these shows with commercials that show the original guns n roses, and make no mention of a 1 original member band showing up ??

WOW! This is starting to smell more like 2002 the closer we get to these shows. Axl has got to get some pics taken of the new band if he wants them to be taken seriously. How hard is it to take a few pictures?

This band has been together, in some form, since 1998?  No later than 2001 or 2002...and not a single promo picture?

[The Dog]

I talked to some people overseas today, thye are advertsing these shows with commercials that show the original guns n roses, and make no mention of a 1 original member band showing up ??

WOW! This is starting to smell more like 2002 the closer we get to these shows. Axl has got to get some pics taken of the new band if he wants them to be taken seriously. How hard is it to take a few pictures?

This band has been together, in some form, since 1998?  No later than 2001 or 2002...and not a single promo picture?

Yeah, that is pretty lame.  At the very least they could have compiled some video promo thing from shows they did in 2002 at least.  If they try to pull that in the states (which I know they wouldn't but still....) you'd have law suits for false advertising!!       I don't get this marketing strategy at all.

[jameslofton29]

? ?Seriously James, you are so dead-on with this post.? Familiarity is huge.? The band as a whole has to get its word out there.? Axl has a bad habit of carrying very heavy crosses around on his back.? In the States he gets blasted left and right, hell, even on this GNR fan board.? If the rest of the band wasn't muzzled (I can't prove they are, but damn we don't hear much from them) the public could get to know them, and the band could help fight the nay-sayers.? I think Axl may be protecting the new guys.? Just my take on it.? ? Let's get this fuckin thing started well before Lisbon!!!!!!!!!!!!!? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ?

I think this is the main reason behind the "Where's Slash?" chants, and why some people all over the globe still think original GNR is together. Axl uses pics from the 80's and early 90's to promote new GNR. That is insane. How can your band ever have an identity? How can Robin ever feel comfortable on stage? Everyone looking at him is wondering who the fuck he is. Same with Tommy. He had to fill some big shoes himself(and does it quite well) but people are expecting Duff. It must be awkward for these guys. Richard kinda looks like Izzy, so they probably think thats who he is. This band will never conquer the "hired guns" stigma until Axl decides to take them seriously.

I hate to say it again, but this really reeks of 2002.

[speed_stone]

what the fuck is a velvet revolver anyway?

[jimb0]

what the fuck is a velvet revolver anyway?

Its a penis wrapped in a special texturized  condom. 
Plus it sounds similar enough to Guns n' Roses to make people notice its two of the same origional members and one of the additional musicians.   

[jimb0]

As far as the promo pics,

the band hasn't been in the same place since MSG '02 according to dizzy.   Axl capitalizes on multitrack recording to save money I guess.