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[mrlee]

People have the choice whether or not they wanna listen to the clips.

Exactly!

But... Remind me again. How many other times has this been discussed here?

Many times but people keep complaining bout the leaks. They obviously think that by complaining they are making a difference and they will get thanks from axl.

[oldgunsfan]

My guess would be, if CD was in record stores, the leaks would stop

that may be obvious and a oversimplefication

i've had bosses that always said to KISS, KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID

[Chief]

i posted this at another board and i'm going to post it again:

Axl or management or the band is not leaking these demos. In fact even if they were to do such a thing, which I think is very unlikely in the first place, it would be a mixed track, and probably not one that is on the final tracklisting. (recall Axl once said that there would be a "bonus" disc at the Leeds show I believe)

Whatever the reason its taking so long, we haven't heard any new music for a long time for a reason, they weren't ready to put it out. He wants the music to speak for itself, so I think they are aiming for maximum surprise when the album comes out.

Also, demos or incomplete songs give the wrong impression to fans, especially ones who don't follow the band as closely as we do and could potentially turn them off of the band. That is the LAST thing they need, especially with all the events that have happened in the last 4 years or so. I think GNR needs to strike big and strike strong when the ball gets rolling and leaks will just get in the way. I mean, I think they are still not quite done with some of the songs according to the recent Rolling Stone article. (Richard even came back to LA to record some stuff a few months ago)

Even for my band, I would HATE for anything to leak before it comes out. I have had to tell my friend a few times that we shouldn't play too much new stuff live until it is put out there for everyone on the album.

So, I basically think these leaks hurt the band in the long run and hopefully they stop soon because we have been waiting too long for even MORE stuff to get screwed up in relation to the band.

[Timmy]

I know that if there were a release date, I'd stop downloading any leaks, but since we don't... well...

KEEP THEM COMING

[Crashdiet]

its simple.... release the album and/or give a release date. If they announced a release date i'll stop downloading leaks, but until then I've been starving to hear new music from axl for like 10 years... i can't help myself because I don't trust him to release the album ever.

[Dont Try Me]

announcing the album won't stop the leaks..........and it wont stop people to listen to them........all albums seems to getting leaked prior to it's release. No matter what band....

There is really nothing we could do........other then not download it..........

[Eternal Flaming Sword of Death...]

Bring on more fuckin leaks!!!!!

Axl knows how to stop them, hell he is probably leaking them.

To those who are refusing to listen to them, great, pat yourself on the back.

But there is more than a good chance that these leaks are as close as you'll ever get to the album. !0 years of waiting ? yeah I'll download whatever leaks. Hardcore fans usually want demo versions of songs anyways.

Download 'em people, you may never see the fucking album

[shaun]

*No more leaks + How to stop them*


I think that's it for the leaks anyway. The next next leak will be when the album is released 

[oneway23]

*No more leaks + How to stop them*


I think that's it for the leaks anyway. The next next leak will be when the album is released 

I'm hoping that this is not the case, but I suspect that the attitudes of a few of these moral crusader anti-leakers might do a one-eighty if we're still sitting here 6 months from now with our thumbs up our asses.

[Tyson]

For god's sake guys.  Cmon.  I understand that as truely devoted fans we have been through hell and back waiting for this album.  I, too, have listened to and shared a few of the leaks, but enough is enough already.  Let's stop ruining it for ourselves and for the band that we love so much.  I refure to listen to CITR or anything else that is leaked.  I wish you guys would do the same.  It is going to be a magical moment when we finally have that CD in our hands.  I don't want it to be diminished more so than it already has been.  I also want to say that I have come on this board every single day for the last 5 years and have nothing but respect for GNR fans.  I am part of the club my friends and am happy to share such a great mutual interest as the GREAT Axl Rose. 

[DunkinDave]

If you love Axl so much, why don't you marry him?

[Eazy E]

If you don't want to listen to them... don't.

It's up to the rest of us if we want to do the same thing.  It's just bothering you that we're all enjoying the new stuff.

You'reeee jealous. 

[Spirit]

For god's sake guys.? Cmon.? I understand that as truely devoted fans we have been through hell and back waiting for this album.? I, too, have listened to and shared a few of the leaks, but enough is enough already.? Let's stop ruining it for ourselves and for the band that we love so much.? I refure to listen to CITR or anything else that is leaked.? I wish you guys would do the same.? It is going to be a magical moment when we finally have that CD in our hands.? I don't want it to be diminished more so than it already has been.? I also want to say that I have come on this board every single day for the last 5 years and have nothing but respect for GNR fans.? I am part of the club my friends and am happy to share such a great mutual interest as the GREAT Axl Rose.?

I think we all agree that a simple statement about the status would do great right about now... Without it, who knows what's going on?

[Tyson]

  nice replies you retards

[Timmy]

? nice replies you retards

What is wrong with you?

[jimb0]

I, too, have listened to and shared a few of the leaks, but enough is enough already. 



Ummmm Ty, if you live in a glass house don't throw stones allright?

[Skunk]

If there was a release date, then maybe i'd wait.
But i'm not gonna wait for the magical moment i get the album if i don't know how much longer i have to wait. Albums from other bands i love have leaked before and i didn't download the songs because i knew i only had to wait a month or so - i can wait a month, and i can wait two...

As it is the songs i have plus a few bootlegs, i listen to them on my headphones as i walk through the city and it's been really enjoyable. I'll buy the album, and i'll listen to it happily. I still listen to the old albums, so i can't imagine how much i'll listen to this.

[holtzmn73]

I refure to listen to CITR or anything else that is leaked.  I wish you guys would do the same.   

I wish you wouldn't tell me what to do. 

[Tyson]

  I respect the whole 'to each is own' mentality, I just feel that we are so hungry for the scraps from Axl's table that we've lost some long term perspective.  I've literally dreamt about the day Chinese Democracy is released and I don't want that to be ruined.  Regardless of your stance, I feel this is a worthy topic of conversation.

[Spirit]

? I respect the whole 'to each is own' mentality, I just feel that we are so hungry for the scraps from Axl's table that we've lost some long term perspective.? I've literally dreamt about the day Chinese Democracy is released and I don't want that to be ruined.? Regardless of your stance, I feel this is a worthy topic of conversation.

That's fair. You might wanna tone down the title of the thread though.... doesn't really look like you're open for a conversation.