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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2006, 06:59:57 PM »

Cheers to RS. beer

Don't ?sweat the T.W.A.T. line... every review has to incorporate some criticism... otherwise it's just an Axl Rose slobberfest... gives the review some legitimacy. The last line is fvcking classic too...

It's a pity they didn't review CITR. Undecided
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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2006, 07:00:08 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2006, 07:01:08 PM »

In my opinion, TWAT is a great track for about the first 2:30 - even when Axl launches into his perfect Geoff Tate of Queensryche impression.? However, after that it pretty much falls apart.? The reason mostly being the quality of the mix rather than the actual music, though.? The layers just kind of 'blend' together too much.? I'm sure the album version will be much tighter, probably have at least one more verse, and overall be a very strong track.

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That's funny, I think twat really kicks in after the three minute mark. The guitar work is chilling.
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« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2006, 07:02:18 PM »

In my opinion, TWAT is a great track for about the first 2:30 - even when Axl launches into his perfect Geoff Tate of Queensryche impression.? However, after that it pretty much falls apart.? The reason mostly being the quality of the mix rather than the actual music, though.? The layers just kind of 'blend' together too much.? I'm sure the album version will be much tighter, probably have at least one more verse, and overall be a very strong track.

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That's funny, I think twat really kicks in after the three minute mark. The guitar work is chilling.

That's what I thought...!

I love the last two minutes of TWAT, regardless of how messy it is.
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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2006, 07:05:44 PM »

Hmmm... some people like the start, some people like the end, I for one like ALL of TWAT, I think the song in it's entirety sounds great! beer
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« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2006, 07:06:08 PM »

I think better will be a classic! It definately hangs with GnR's best, imo.
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« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2006, 07:09:37 PM »

I love "There Was a Time" - I just think that, to a 'casual' listener, the mix on the last part of the song is a huge mess.  Hence why they might have bad comments about it.  I think its compression to MP3 really hurts it, even as a demo.  Just because, again, the blending of stuff isn't real smooth. 

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« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2006, 07:11:52 PM »

 Cool ?So fucking cool! ?Even if I don't agree with the There Was a Time review. ?Darknemus was right about the need for production...hell, it's a demo! ?(TWAT's still my favorite of 4 excellent songs) ?Cool shit nonetheless!

Now, all I want, nay, demand!...is the cover of Rolling Stone!!! ? yes

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« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2006, 07:16:28 PM »

I love "There Was a Time" - I just think that, to a 'casual' listener, the mix on the last part of the song is a huge mess.? Hence why they might have bad comments about it.? I think its compression to MP3 really hurts it, even as a demo.? Just because, again, the blending of stuff isn't real smooth.?

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I agree 100 percent. What would the demo of "Estranged" sound like as an MP3?
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« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2006, 07:17:48 PM »

I love "There Was a Time" - I just think that, to a 'casual' listener, the mix on the last part of the song is a huge mess.? Hence why they might have bad comments about it.? I think its compression to MP3 really hurts it, even as a demo.? Just because, again, the blending of stuff isn't real smooth.?

-darknemus


I agree 100 percent. What would the demo of "Estranged" sound like as an MP3?

Is there an Estranged demo out there?  I've often wondered this.   Huh
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« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2006, 07:18:03 PM »

when Axl launches into his perfect Geoff Tate of Queensryche impression.?

-darknemus

Glad I'm not the only one that seen the similarities. I mentioned it several times in the TWAT thread, but I guess no one else noticed it, or just isn't queensryche fans.
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« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2006, 07:21:37 PM »

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AFTER A LOONLY DECADE-LONG DELAY, it's a relief just to know that Axl Rose really has been recording - and surprisingly enough, judging by these 3 freshly leaked demos, Chinese Democracy could end up being worth the wait.

That's the best proof that we are not aliens or stupid persons. We always believed in Axl's talent and we always will even if CD never sees the light of the day.

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''Better'' is the strongest track: With robotic rhythm guitar, poppy verses, an angro chorus and an exotic falsetto intro, it beats most of Use Your Illusion I and II.

I Agree with this comment, but I don't think ''Better'' is the best track. ''There Was A Time'' is a masterpiece (don't want to underrate-estimate ''Better'', but I think TWAT has the potencial of an epic classic, an hymn)

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In contrast, ''There Was A Time'' wants to be a ''Don't Cry''-style epic but sounds more line an overproduced mess.


They used to say the same about ''November Rain'' or ''Coma''. Nothing to be worried.

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''IRS'', however, is an effective hard rock tune, nimbly sliding drum loops underneath crunchy ascending power cords and Rose howling like he just got off that bus from Indiana.


I agree with this. But at this point, I'm a little less optimist than this guy.

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Hey Axl, put that thing out- it already sounds better than Velvet Revolver.
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« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2006, 07:22:35 PM »

when Axl launches into his perfect Geoff Tate of Queensryche impression.?

-darknemus

Glad I'm not the only one that seen the similarities. I mentioned it several times in the TWAT thread, but I guess no one else noticed it, or just isn't queensryche fans.

Sorry, back in the day, we pretty much played the hits off of the one cd, Jet City Woman and about 3 or 4 others...playing the boardgame Risk at our buddies' basement. ?Good memories. ?Smiley
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« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2006, 07:24:50 PM »

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AFTER A LOONLY DECADE-LONG DELAY, it's a relief just to know that Axl Rose really has been recording - and surprisingly enough, judging by these 3 freshly leaked demos, Chinese Democracy could end up being worth the wait.

That's the best proof that we are not aliens or stupid persons. We always believed in Axl's talent and we always will even if CD never sees the light of the day.

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''Better'' is the strongest track: With robotic rhythm guitar, poppy verses, an angro chorus and an exotic falsetto intro, it beats most of Use Your Illusion I and II.

I Agree with this comment, but I don't think ''Better'' is the best track. ''There Was A Time'' is a masterpiece (don't want to underrate-estimate ''Better'', but I think TWAT has the potencial of an epic classic, an hymn)

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In contrast, ''There Was A Time'' wants to be a ''Don't Cry''-style epic but sounds more line an overproduced mess.


They used to say the same about ''November Rain'' or ''Coma''. Nothing to be worried.

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''IRS'', however, is an effective hard rock tune, nimbly sliding drum loops underneath crunchy ascending power cords and Rose howling like he just got off that bus from Indiana.


I agree with this. But at this point, I'm a little less optimist than this guy.

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Axl farts sound better than Velvet Revolver...

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great review of the review dude  rofl
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« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2006, 07:26:52 PM »

That's got to put some goddamn wind in the band's (not just Axl's) sails...

Hopefully this means we get a cocky Axl with attitude in Europe this summer... not the beaten dog affraid of judgment that we saw in '02...
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« Reply #35 on: March 08, 2006, 07:27:42 PM »

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« Reply #36 on: March 08, 2006, 07:28:38 PM »

"sounds more line an overproduced mess"

i think they meant "like."
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« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2006, 07:33:09 PM »

"sounds more line an overproduced mess"

i think they meant "like."

Typo was mine ... SORRY!!!? Embarrassed


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« Reply #38 on: March 08, 2006, 07:42:39 PM »

"sounds more line an overproduced mess"

i think they meant "like."

Typo was mine ... SORRY!!!  Embarrassed


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I noticed that also, was about to say RS needs editors ;P
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« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2006, 07:51:43 PM »

First off, it's good to see a positive review.  No doubt.  But, Rolling Stone isn't exactly what it used to be.  It used to be THE magazine for music, but over the last few years it has lost a lot of clout.  If they had given a bad review you'd be saying Rolling Stone sucks.  It's one man's opinion and I think he's right on except I think TWAT is great too.  Anyway, good press like this certainly can't hurt.  No matter who it's from.
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