its happening again

[gnr_12]

no, they will still play new stuff... just wont be recieved as well as it should be if the Cd hit stores before the concert... but who knows... if it were a concert for all of us on HTGTH then im sure he could play all new songs and wed all prety much go nuts.. its the people who only listen to radio tunes that would be dissapointed..

I think that's weak in general and a weak strategy. Why play new songs with no album? You'll just let the people hear the new stuff and it'll become stale when it's finally out. Well maybe not, but I still think the album being released before the tour is a better idea... They could use the tour to promote the album and make it huge.

Im not saying that thats what should happen.. lol i was replying to your comment about it not coming out.. and if you dont agree with it.. thats fine but its obvious that they will play some new songs... i mean they have played riyad and the bedoines, the blues, madagaskar and such live anyways.. so why not the rest.. weve all heard it....

and why does everyone care if the songs go stale? if you like them then thats good enough.. stop complaining... once songs get overplayed on the radio they begin to suck anyways..... so who gives a shit.. if u like the songs... AWESOME.. if not.. too bad your a commercial loser as well.... just jam to the music... that all it here for.. not to be disected into whether or not its gonna be a radio hit.

[gnr_12]

no, they will still play new stuff... just wont be recieved as well as it should be if the Cd hit stores before the concert... but who knows... if it were a concert for all of us on HTGTH then im sure he could play all new songs and wed all prety much go nuts.. its the people who only listen to radio tunes that would be dissapointed..

I think that's weak in general and a weak strategy. Why play new songs with no album? You'll just let the people hear the new stuff and it'll become stale when it's finally out. Well maybe not, but I still think the album being released before the tour is a better idea... They could use the tour to promote the album and make it huge.

nah playing new stuff is the way to go, why would this band want to keep playing other people's music.. Eventually it just will appear to be some cover band with nothing new..Like the illusions tour you need to introduce music for the album

I agree, but I think if you're going to play new stuff, why not have an album out too?

thats what we are all saying.. but its not up to us whether the album is out by then or not.. all we can do is hope.

[mikegiuliana]

no, they will still play new stuff... just wont be recieved as well as it should be if the Cd hit stores before the concert... but who knows... if it were a concert for all of us on HTGTH then im sure he could play all new songs and wed all prety much go nuts.. its the people who only listen to radio tunes that would be dissapointed..

I think that's weak in general and a weak strategy. Why play new songs with no album? You'll just let the people hear the new stuff and it'll become stale when it's finally out. Well maybe not, but I still think the album being released before the tour is a better idea... They could use the tour to promote the album and make it huge.

nah playing new stuff is the way to go, why would this band want to keep playing other people's music.. Eventually it just will appear to be some cover band with nothing new..Like the illusions tour you need to introduce music for the album

I agree, but I think if you're going to play new stuff, why not have an album out too?

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of course.... I have no idea what will happen before june.. They can't possibly tour again with no album... maybe it'll fly overseas but not hear in USA, who the hell is going to take such a risk with no money making record.?

[jbenzz]

Consider that most bands tour for a bit without their albums out.  VR did it with their first album, GN'R did it for months without UYI out...

The only reason they'd be more inclined to release the album is because it's kinda been anticipated/they don't want the new songs to leak until the album is out.  I'm pretty sure the reasons bands tour without the album out is to create buzz about the songs so the first week sales are better.  If GN'R don't promote themselves at all (including getting people to hear the music), the first week sales aren't going to be big and first week sales have a huge impact on the success of most albums.

[pasnow]

Consider that most bands tour for a bit without their albums out.? VR did it with their first album, GN'R did it for months without UYI out...

The only reason they'd be more inclined to release the album is because it's kinda been anticipated/they don't want the new songs to leak until the album is out.? I'm pretty sure the reasons bands tour without the album out is to create buzz about the songs so the first week sales are better.? If GN'R don't promote themselves at all (including getting people to hear the music), the first week sales aren't going to be big and first week sales have a huge impact on the success of most albums.

You make a good point, however those bands also play SMALL venues prior to the album coming out. Remember when VR was playing clubs in LA??  I saw VR in Philly 1 week before the album was released, in a venue which holds about 1,000 people. Not an outdoor 30,000-60,000 stadium like these Europe shows.

But yeah, hearing some songs before the album does create a buzz. I remember when VR finished "Fall to Pieces" a guy turned around and said "That songs going to be big!!"

[BLS-Pride]

I think 2006 is the year. The leaks, the apperaences, and shit. The dates keep being added on for shows too. Something is about to happen.. When all the dates are settled I think we will hear a statement. We better.. silent for too long.

[sl??sh]

leak "prostitute"

plz

the hype may not die

[Dont Try Me]

There is no such thing as a hype at this moment. So it can't exactly die. It's just the casual Guns fans (like me and you) visiting this place who get the most excited of all and likes to think everyone in the outside world follows the leaks and tourdates by foot. There most probably will be a hype once the CD is announced and the promotion starts rolling for the everyday musiclistener. And if the people react to that in the way promotion people intended, it'll create a hype. Now calm down.

[freddiebrph]

Consider that most bands tour for a bit without their albums out.? VR did it with their first album, GN'R did it for months without UYI out...

The only reason they'd be more inclined to release the album is because it's kinda been anticipated/they don't want the new songs to leak until the album is out.? I'm pretty sure the reasons bands tour without the album out is to create buzz about the songs so the first week sales are better.? If GN'R don't promote themselves at all (including getting people to hear the music), the first week sales aren't going to be big and first week sales have a huge impact on the success of most albums.

VR did it? when? I seen them in PA, with about 8 other bands. The album was new, but people knew almost every song. We all had our favorites and different people sand there favorites right along with the band. NO WAY, can gne tour AGAIN, with no new material. NO ONE can be that stupid. It did not work in 2002, and it wont work today! There is no reason not to release thsu album. The leaks sound good already, which means the tracks will be awesome. It is up to axl to do it right!

[gnr_12]

not gonna lie guys.. even if they had no material id still go to a GNR concert.. do u know how rare one of there concerts are these days? thinks twice about what ure saying..

[oneway23]

All he has to do onstage is simply say "This is our new single" and all will be ok

[cheeser]

This Board was crazy for about 2 weeks, new leaks, album, axl. Now, it seems to be fading AGAIN. No OFFICIAL announcements, no album info, and back to hearing about bullshit lawsuits. It was 20 years ago, get the hell out of court, and release the album!

I must say i am one of these people that only really utilizes the board in times of great intrest.  I check it every now and again, but i never really actually post unless something is happening.  i might slip in an occasional post here or there during down time, but unless something is truly happening, im usually just checking the news section on the homepage. 

This would be a good time to take advantage of, but axl has had several different times like these over the past several years.  Even if it doesnt come out now, there will still be a huge interest if something else "happens" (like another leak or surprise show or tour announcement).   

Touring again without an album might be bad for uncle axl.....so why schedule all these show's with no album released??  i think he has something up his sleeve (CD hopefully?).

[Crashdiet]

All i want to know is two fucking simple things...

1) At what state is the album at. STill tracking, mixing, mastering, duplicating???

2) who is actually in the band. Is it a two guitar piece or three?

Why the secrecy for fuck sake. This isn't the da vinci works decoded for christ sake.... its suppose to be rock n roll.

I mean if they are not done tracking by the end of april when all the band is together anyway to rehearse. With a release date sometime this summer.... they are the most backasswards band that has ever walked the earth. Most bands are excited to get their new material to the fans, let them know what is going on, tell them the plan. Not axl he likes to pretend he is the fucking godfather of music... "kiss my holy ass and i'll tell you that the music is coming soon"

get on with it already. If it isn't 'perfect' yet then you suck. stop teasing us.

thanks for the rant

[speed_stone]

they are the most backasswards band that has ever walked the earth. Most bands are excited to get their new material to the fans, let them know what is going on, tell them the plan. Not axl he likes to pretend he is the fucking godfather of music... "kiss my holy ass and i'll tell you that the music is coming soon"

lol that made me laugh
only axl, you gotta love him

[Estranged One]

The album will hit this year for sure.  Axl isn't stupid, the strippers and the bar were just a good way to gauge the timing.  The timing is right, the songs are great and we want  our greedy hands on this stuff soon!! Hook us up Axl, rock needs an I.V. !!  Tap our veins once again!!

[oldgunsfan]

no, they will still play new stuff... just wont be recieved as well as it should be if the Cd hit stores before the concert... but who knows... if it were a concert for all of us on HTGTH then im sure he could play all new songs and wed all prety much go nuts.. its the people who only listen to radio tunes that would be dissapointed..

I think that's weak in general and a weak strategy. Why play new songs with no album? You'll just let the people hear the new stuff and it'll become stale when it's finally out. Well maybe not, but I still think the album being released before the tour is a better idea... They could use the tour to promote the album and make it huge.

yeah, all of 5000 die hard fans