Waited 15 years for this? OH MY GOD........

[HungerForChaos]

They sould rename this from the Guns N' Roses forum.   To the Axl Rose fan boy section.    You guys sound really gay, after you are done giving yourselves wrap-arounds to the new guns, go see broke back mountain.   This music is killer in that movie!    Losers

I never said they new stuff was horrible, just not up to gunners standerds.     You terds will be impressed with anything it looks like.

Oh wow, a hater calling people fanboys. Typical. Just because we don't agree with you doesn't make us fanboys. Stop acting like it does...

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Better if made in 1986 easily would have made AFD, the same holds true for IRS. TWAT and CITR would have easily made the UYIs and would have been singles and videos (they would no have made AFD for the same reason dont cry and nov rain didnt).

[Wooody]

Oh fuck off, you obviously werent here the day the full demo for Better was leaked, it fuckin blew our minds.

this music is mindblowing to me, and to a lot of people, just because a few haters and naysayers say it sucks doesnt mean it sucks. Twat is every second as good as something off of the illusions, and better has a whole new sound that I cant even compare to the old stuff.

[Continental Drift]

Dude... if you've been "waiting" 15 years for anything... well... that's your own damn fault.

If the new music isn't your cup of tea... that's too bad... actually, check that... that's pretty fvcking funny.

[axlrosehunny]

Please don't compare NEWGNR with OLDGNR because the time has changed.So whatever we are listening"leaked demos"are classic compairing to the songs that are been played or released by any rock bands...And i think this NEWGNR can kick any superrock band in media and YES it includes VELVET REVOLVER too......

Uh huh... ?What are they called again? ?Thats right, Guns N' Roses. ? ?You dont like the comparisons write to Axl and get him to change the name to something else.

Axl is bitching about being the only one maintaining Gun N' Roses history.. ? Ya sure... ? ?

[Lucky]

The best b-side old Gunners material, will better than anything on this new album. ? Thats a fact.?

Gimme a fucking break. If you really believe that, then why are you posting in this section? Go to the ex-gunners section, or the VR section.

have you heard any of the GNR songs except my world?
because the new songs can only compare to my world...

Take the same advice I just gave axlrosehunny.

c'mon. seriously, how can you compare CITR,TWAT to November Rain, Estranged, Don't Cry, Civil War, So Fine, The Garden, ...
or
Better and IRS, to Paradise City, Mr Brownstone, Nightrain, It's so easy, ....

they are not in the same league.
I agree, CITR, TWAT, Better are better than VR stuff, better than Coldplay, better than U2, but I believed when they used to say that this will be a new music revolution, a leap forward, ...
I imagined it would be the same quality of UYI, comparable to Led Zeppelin's 4...

I've been a fan for years, and I've been around these forums since 2001, and I am still here. I hope that the songs have evolved, but I think that the concept is the most important thing in a song, and that any studio work, touch up, or any other thing they might do in a studio cant help it be great, but just a little better.

the thing that gives me hope is the fact that they wrote about 80 songs, and that these might be the "fillers", but recent Axl's interview worries me. he said that "blues", "twat" and "better" are his favorites, and let's face it, they are just another song. nothing people will remember 20 years from now.


I also think that Slash wouldn't have helped and that the Finck is doing a good job.

[Luigi]

Please don't compare NEWGNR with OLDGNR because the time has changed.So whatever we are listening"leaked demos"are classic compairing to the songs that are been played or released by any rock bands...And i think this NEWGNR can kick any superrock band in media and YES it includes VELVET REVOLVER too......

Uh huh...  What are they called again?  Thats right, Guns N' Roses.    You dont like the comparisons write to Axl and get him to change the name to something else.

Axl is bitching about being the only one maintaining Gun N' Roses history..   Ya sure...     

FIND ANOTHER BAND .. AND GO AWAY

[Luigi]

SHUT THE HELL UP 

[HungerForChaos]

The best b-side old Gunners material, will better than anything on this new album.   Thats a fact.

Gimme a fucking break. If you really believe that, then why are you posting in this section? Go to the ex-gunners section, or the VR section.

have you heard any of the GNR songs except my world?
because the new songs can only compare to my world...

Take the same advice I just gave axlrosehunny.

c'mon. seriously, how can you compare CITR,TWAT to November Rain, Estranged, Don't Cry, Civil War, So Fine, The Garden, ...
or
Better and IRS, to Paradise City, Mr Brownstone, Nightrain, It's so easy, ....

they are not in the same league.
I agree, CITR, TWAT, Better are better than VR stuff, better than Coldplay, better than U2, but I believed when they used to say that this will be a new music revolution, a leap forward, ...
I imagined it would be the same quality of UYI, comparable to Led Zeppelin's 4...

I've been a fan for years, and I've been around these forums since 2001, and I am still here. I hope that the songs have evolved, but I think that the concept is the most important thing in a song, and that any studio work, touch up, or any other thing they might do in a studio cant help it be great, but just a little better.

the thing that gives me hope is the fact that they wrote about 80 songs, and that these might be the "fillers", but recent Axl's interview worries me. he said that "blues", "twat" and "better" are his favorites, and let's face it, they are just another song. nothing people will remember 20 years from now.


I also think that Slash wouldn't have helped and that the Finck is doing a good job.

It's his opinion that they do and it's YOUR opinion that they don't. Can we just leave it at that? Hmmmmm?

[axlrosehunny]

Better if made in 1986 easily would have made AFD, the same holds true for IRS. TWAT and CITR would have easily made the UYIs and would have been singles and videos (they would no have made AFD for the same reason dont cry and nov rain didnt).

The only way these songs would have made it is if Axl had written them when he was like 9 years old. ? It took him 15 years to write these? ? gawd

Dont Cry was wrttien before AFD came out and wasnt on it. ? You still really think these would make it.

They sould rename this from the Guns N' Roses forum. To the Axl Rose fan boy section. You guys sound really gay, after you are done giving yourselves wrap-arounds to the new guns, go see broke back mountain. This music is killer in that movie! Losers

I never said they new stuff was horrible, just not up to gunners standerds. You terds will be impressed with anything it looks like.

Oh wow, a hater calling people fanboys. Typical. Just because we don't agree with you doesn't make us fanboys. Stop acting like it does...

A hater? ? How do u figure? ? From what I have read I am the only one to start a thread about how the new material is NOT up to par. ? When did I say I hated it? ? ?I hate Axl fan boys though, that love anything he has done. ? ?

[Lucky]

It's his opinion that they do and it's YOUR opinion that they don't. Can we just leave it at that? Hmmmmm?

if either of us could leave it alone, we would never come back to the forum
instead of coming here for years

[dave-gnfnr2k]

The best b-side old Gunners material, will better than anything on this new album. ? Thats a fact.?

Gimme a fucking break. If you really believe that, then why are you posting in this section? Go to the ex-gunners section, or the VR section.

have you heard any of the GNR songs except my world?
because the new songs can only compare to my world...

Take the same advice I just gave axlrosehunny.

c'mon. seriously, how can you compare CITR,TWAT to November Rain, Estranged, Don't Cry, Civil War, So Fine, The Garden, ...
or
Better and IRS, to Paradise City, Mr Brownstone, Nightrain, It's so easy, ....

they are not in the same league.
I agree, CITR, TWAT, Better are better than VR stuff, better than Coldplay, better than U2, but I believed when they used to say that this will be a new music revolution, a leap forward, ...
I imagined it would be the same quality of UYI, comparable to Led Zeppelin's 4...

I've been a fan for years, and I've been around these forums since 2001, and I am still here. I hope that the songs have evolved, but I think that the concept is the most important thing in a song, and that any studio work, touch up, or any other thing they might do in a studio cant help it be great, but just a little better.

the thing that gives me hope is the fact that they wrote about 80 songs, and that these might be the "fillers", but recent Axl's interview worries me. he said that "blues", "twat" and "better" are his favorites, and let's face it, they are just another song. nothing people will remember 20 years from now.


I also think that Slash wouldn't have helped and that the Finck is doing a good job.

So Fine is not even in the same league as TWAT, CITR, Madagascar or the blues. That is laughable even bringing up that song title.

Nov Rain and Estranged are a given as better than the new songs no one is even disputing that.

As for patience and Dont cry, CITR and TWAT are both just as good if not better than those songs and the same goes for maddy and the blues.

As for IRS and better i would take them over its so easy and nighttrain anyday. Again WTTJ and PC, and SCOM no one ever siad they ?are better.

As for these songs being songs ppl were remember 20 years from now how do you know that? Do you have a time machine?

At very worst most of the new gnr songs are better than 75% of the old gnr songs. All of them would have made past albums and been some of the best songs on the album it made. So stop kidding yourself.

[HungerForChaos]

Better if made in 1986 easily would have made AFD, the same holds true for IRS. TWAT and CITR would have easily made the UYIs and would have been singles and videos (they would no have made AFD for the same reason dont cry and nov rain didnt).

The only way these songs would have made it is if Axl had written them when he was like 9 years old.   It took him 15 years to write these?   gawd

Dont Cry was wrttien before AFD came out and wasnt on it.   You still really think these would make it.

They sould rename this from the Guns N' Roses forum. To the Axl Rose fan boy section. You guys sound really gay, after you are done giving yourselves wrap-arounds to the new guns, go see broke back mountain. This music is killer in that movie! Losers

I never said they new stuff was horrible, just not up to gunners standerds. You terds will be impressed with anything it looks like.

Oh wow, a hater calling people fanboys. Typical. Just because we don't agree with you doesn't make us fanboys. Stop acting like it does...

A hater?   How do u figure?   From what I have read I am the only one to start a thread about how the new material is NOT up to par.   When did I say I hated it?    I hate Axl fan boys though, that love anything he has done.     

You keep trashing these songs saying you're disappointed and dissing everyone elses opinions by stating your opinion as a fact... Ex. "not up to gunners standards". Maybe to you, but you can't speak for everyone. Btw, calling people who likes these songs a fanboy generally makes you look like a hater... Just saying.

[axlrosehunny]

The best b-side old Gunners material, will better than anything on this new album. Thats a fact.

Gimme a fucking break. If you really believe that, then why are you posting in this section? Go to the ex-gunners section, or the VR section.

have you heard any of the GNR songs except my world?
because the new songs can only compare to my world...

Take the same advice I just gave axlrosehunny.

c'mon. seriously, how can you compare CITR,TWAT to November Rain, Estranged, Don't Cry, Civil War, So Fine, The Garden, ...
or
Better and IRS, to Paradise City, Mr Brownstone, Nightrain, It's so easy, ....

they are not in the same league.
I agree, CITR, TWAT, Better are better than VR stuff, better than Coldplay, better than U2, but I believed when they used to say that this will be a new music revolution, a leap forward, ...
I imagined it would be the same quality of UYI, comparable to Led Zeppelin's 4...

I've been a fan for years, and I've been around these forums since 2001, and I am still here. I hope that the songs have evolved, but I think that the concept is the most important thing in a song, and that any studio work, touch up, or any other thing they might do in a studio cant help it be great, but just a little better.

the thing that gives me hope is the fact that they wrote about 80 songs, and that these might be the "fillers", but recent Axl's interview worries me. he said that "blues", "twat" and "better" are his favorites, and let's face it, they are just another song. nothing people will remember 20 years from now.


I also think that Slash wouldn't have helped and that the Finck is doing a good job.

It's his opinion that they do and it's YOUR opinion that they don't. Can we just leave it at that? Hmmmmm?

I agree almost 100 percent with that. ?It would have been nice to hear something a little different with Robin writting some of the guitar work, but his work dosnt really stand out. ? ?You could replace him with anyone I think and still get the same effect

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Better if made in 1986 easily would have made AFD, the same holds true for IRS. TWAT and CITR would have easily made the UYIs and would have been singles and videos (they would no have made AFD for the same reason dont cry and nov rain didnt).

The only way these songs would have made it is if Axl had written them when he was like 9 years old. ? It took him 15 years to write these? ? gawd

Dont Cry was wrttien before AFD came out and wasnt on it. ? You still really think these would make it.

They sould rename this from the Guns N' Roses forum. To the Axl Rose fan boy section. You guys sound really gay, after you are done giving yourselves wrap-arounds to the new guns, go see broke back mountain. This music is killer in that movie! Losers

I never said they new stuff was horrible, just not up to gunners standerds. You terds will be impressed with anything it looks like.

Oh wow, a hater calling people fanboys. Typical. Just because we don't agree with you doesn't make us fanboys. Stop acting like it does...

A hater? ? How do u figure? ? From what I have read I am the only one to start a thread about how the new material is NOT up to par. ? When did I say I hated it? ? ?I hate Axl fan boys though, that love anything he has done. ? ?

It is up to par and its way beyond par. I think I know what the problem is. Axls new stuff is way too over your head and that is why you dont like them. Lke I siad before, I dont want a bunch of men in their 40s singing about getting laid, high and drunk, maybe you are into that but most people are not. I liked how Axls songs have evoloved and are grown up. You take the lyrics to CITR and they blow away 90% of the old gnr stuff.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

The best b-side old Gunners material, will better than anything on this new album. Thats a fact.

Gimme a fucking break. If you really believe that, then why are you posting in this section? Go to the ex-gunners section, or the VR section.

have you heard any of the GNR songs except my world?
because the new songs can only compare to my world...

Take the same advice I just gave axlrosehunny.

c'mon. seriously, how can you compare CITR,TWAT to November Rain, Estranged, Don't Cry, Civil War, So Fine, The Garden, ...
or
Better and IRS, to Paradise City, Mr Brownstone, Nightrain, It's so easy, ....

they are not in the same league.
I agree, CITR, TWAT, Better are better than VR stuff, better than Coldplay, better than U2, but I believed when they used to say that this will be a new music revolution, a leap forward, ...
I imagined it would be the same quality of UYI, comparable to Led Zeppelin's 4...

I've been a fan for years, and I've been around these forums since 2001, and I am still here. I hope that the songs have evolved, but I think that the concept is the most important thing in a song, and that any studio work, touch up, or any other thing they might do in a studio cant help it be great, but just a little better.

the thing that gives me hope is the fact that they wrote about 80 songs, and that these might be the "fillers", but recent Axl's interview worries me. he said that "blues", "twat" and "better" are his favorites, and let's face it, they are just another song. nothing people will remember 20 years from now.


I also think that Slash wouldn't have helped and that the Finck is doing a good job.

It's his opinion that they do and it's YOUR opinion that they don't. Can we just leave it at that? Hmmmmm?

I agree almost 100 percent with that. ?It would have been nice to hear something a little different with Robin writting some of the guitar work, but his work dosnt really stand out. ? ?You could replace him with anyone I think and still get the same effect

Slashs work in VR didnt stand out and if he could not do it for VR how would he do it for new gnr esp since they are songs he did not want to work on the the first place? Answer that simple question for me.

[jimb0]

we listen to gnr, but its not the same gnr.

[Lucky]

c'mon. seriously, how can you compare CITR,TWAT to November Rain, Estranged, Don't Cry, Civil War, So Fine, The Garden, ...
or
Better and IRS, to Paradise City, Mr Brownstone, Nightrain, It's so easy, ....

they are not in the same league.
I agree, CITR, TWAT, Better are better than VR stuff, better than Coldplay, better than U2, but I believed when they used to say that this will be a new music revolution, a leap forward, ...
I imagined it would be the same quality of UYI, comparable to Led Zeppelin's 4...

I've been a fan for years, and I've been around these forums since 2001, and I am still here. I hope that the songs have evolved, but I think that the concept is the most important thing in a song, and that any studio work, touch up, or any other thing they might do in a studio cant help it be great, but just a little better.

the thing that gives me hope is the fact that they wrote about 80 songs, and that these might be the "fillers", but recent Axl's interview worries me. he said that "blues", "twat" and "better" are his favorites, and let's face it, they are just another song. nothing people will remember 20 years from now.


I also think that Slash wouldn't have helped and that the Finck is doing a good job.

So Fine is not even in the same league as TWAT, CITR, Madagascar or the blues. That is laughable even bringing up that song title.

Nov Rain and Estranged are a given as better than the new songs no one is even disputing that.

As for patience and Dont cry, CITR and TWAT are both just as good if not better than those songs and the same goes for maddy and the blues.

As for IRS and better i would take them over its so easy and nighttrain anyday. Again WTTJ and PC, and SCOM no one ever siad they ?are better.

As for these songs being songs ppl were remember 20 years from now how do you know that? Do you have a time machine?

At very worst most of the new gnr songs are better than 75% of the old gnr songs. All of them would have made past albums and been some of the best songs on the album it made. So stop kidding yourself.

I really hope you are right, but I seriously doubt it. the new songs will only bring missery to the GNR brand.
I will enjoy all the new songs, but with the informations I currently have, I don't think the album will do all that great.
do you actually believe that the album will get good reviews, because I seriously doubt it.

[axlrosehunny]

Better if made in 1986 easily would have made AFD, the same holds true for IRS. TWAT and CITR would have easily made the UYIs and would have been singles and videos (they would no have made AFD for the same reason dont cry and nov rain didnt).

The only way these songs would have made it is if Axl had written them when he was like 9 years old. It took him 15 years to write these? gawd

Dont Cry was wrttien before AFD came out and wasnt on it. You still really think these would make it.

They sould rename this from the Guns N' Roses forum. To the Axl Rose fan boy section. You guys sound really gay, after you are done giving yourselves wrap-arounds to the new guns, go see broke back mountain. This music is killer in that movie! Losers

I never said they new stuff was horrible, just not up to gunners standerds. You terds will be impressed with anything it looks like.

Oh wow, a hater calling people fanboys. Typical. Just because we don't agree with you doesn't make us fanboys. Stop acting like it does...

A hater? How do u figure? From what I have read I am the only one to start a thread about how the new material is NOT up to par. When did I say I hated it? I hate Axl fan boys though, that love anything he has done.

You keep trashing these songs saying you're disappointed and dissing everyone elses opinions by stating your opinion as a fact... Ex. "not up to gunners standards". Maybe to you, but you can't speak for everyone. Btw, calling people who likes these songs a fanboy generally makes you look like a hater... Just saying.

Read the bellow and tell me that is not an Axl fan boy!

The best b-side old Gunners material, will better than anything on this new album. ? Thats a fact.

Gimme a fucking break. If you really believe that, then why are you posting in this section? Go to the ex-gunners section, or the VR section.

have you heard any of the GNR songs except my world?
because the new songs can only compare to my world...

Take the same advice I just gave axlrosehunny.

c'mon. seriously, how can you compare CITR,TWAT to November Rain, Estranged, Don't Cry, Civil War, So Fine, The Garden, ...
or
Better and IRS, to Paradise City, Mr Brownstone, Nightrain, It's so easy, ....

they are not in the same league.
I agree, CITR, TWAT, Better are better than VR stuff, better than Coldplay, better than U2, but I believed when they used to say that this will be a new music revolution, a leap forward, ...
I imagined it would be the same quality of UYI, comparable to Led Zeppelin's 4...

I've been a fan for years, and I've been around these forums since 2001, and I am still here. I hope that the songs have evolved, but I think that the concept is the most important thing in a song, and that any studio work, touch up, or any other thing they might do in a studio cant help it be great, but just a little better.

the thing that gives me hope is the fact that they wrote about 80 songs, and that these might be the "fillers", but recent Axl's interview worries me. he said that "blues", "twat" and "better" are his favorites, and let's face it, they are just another song. nothing people will remember 20 years from now.


I also think that Slash wouldn't have helped and that the Finck is doing a good job.

So Fine is not even in the same league as TWAT, CITR, Madagascar or the blues. That is laughable even bringing up that song title.

Nov Rain and Estranged are a given as better than the new songs no one is even disputing that.

As for patience and Dont cry, CITR and TWAT are both just as good if not better than those songs and the same goes for maddy and the blues.

As for IRS and better i would take them over its so easy and nighttrain anyday. Again WTTJ and PC, and SCOM no one ever siad they ?are better.

As for these songs being songs ppl were remember 20 years from now how do you know that? Do you have a time machine?

At very worst most of the new gnr songs are better than 75% of the old gnr songs. All of them would have made past albums and been some of the best songs on the album it made. So stop kidding yourself.

All I can say is... ? Your an idiot.

These are just demos right? ? You will seriously be cumming in your pants when this new album comes out, it is everything you want.

Better if made in 1986 easily would have made AFD, the same holds true for IRS. TWAT and CITR would have easily made the UYIs and would have been singles and videos (they would no have made AFD for the same reason dont cry and nov rain didnt).

The only way these songs would have made it is if Axl had written them when he was like 9 years old. ? It took him 15 years to write these? ? gawd

Dont Cry was wrttien before AFD came out and wasnt on it. ? You still really think these would make it.

They sould rename this from the Guns N' Roses forum. To the Axl Rose fan boy section. You guys sound really gay, after you are done giving yourselves wrap-arounds to the new guns, go see broke back mountain. This music is killer in that movie! Losers

I never said they new stuff was horrible, just not up to gunners standerds. You terds will be impressed with anything it looks like.

Oh wow, a hater calling people fanboys. Typical. Just because we don't agree with you doesn't make us fanboys. Stop acting like it does...

A hater? ? How do u figure? ? From what I have read I am the only one to start a thread about how the new material is NOT up to par. ? When did I say I hated it? ? ?I hate Axl fan boys though, that love anything he has done. ? ?

It is up to par and its way beyond par. I think I know what the problem is. Axls new stuff is way too over your head and that is why you dont like them. Lke I siad before, I dont want a bunch of men in their 40s singing about getting laid, high and drunk, maybe you are into that but most people are not. I liked how Axls songs have evoloved and are grown up. You take the lyrics to CITR and they blow away 90% of the old gnr stuff.

Well you are right a bit. ? I would be more into songs about drugs and chicks and breaking the law. ?But I guess that is why AFD is my fav album.

First of all I cant even hear most of the lyrics to judge them, but if they have evoloved so much that an average 26 year old male cant relate to them, well then they are in for a world of trouble

[Steel_Angel]

Oh my god is right.? This new music isnt bad or anything, it just isnt the balls to the wall risky music I was expecting.? Better is pretty catchy, TWAT has some good guitar work, blah blah blah..? ? ?Is all I hear.? ?

Axl first of all said that he was going to put out an more industrial album.? ?What ever happend to that.? ?

I think Axl is trying to be Freddie, from Queen.? ?That about it.

I hope the finished work is a lot more powerfull than this.

Axl also. sounds really "weird"? when he is trying to hit those high notes.? ?It just dosnt sound great or anything..? ? Sorta like one of my friends trying to hit the high notes durring Jungle, at a bad kareoke party.

"you are one pathetic loser" thats all im gonna say.