Axl: The Life and Times of Axl Rose and Guns N' Roses by Sorelle Saidman

[WARose]

Sorry for bumping an almost old thread, but I just found this Rolling Stone's article about Oh My God in 1999 written by Sorelle Saidman:

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=168

I think her book will be good enough. She seems to have pretty good material.


Edited: just find another article, this time about Vegas '01 (she gave a nice review):

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/news/shownews.php?newsid=324

i just read those articles.....   i don?t think she`ll be talking shit about axl..
and i think this is interesting:

The band also rolled out a handful of previously unheard songs, including "Chinese Democracy" - the title track off the band's long-long-long-awaited album - and "The Blues," "Silk Worms" and one untitled track, GN'R management confirmed.

was the title "rhyiad and the bedo?ins ever confirmed?? it could`ve been called different....or it was just a working title...   maybe it`s the song "better" axl was referring to in his latest interview..... i don`t really think so, but i also don`t think that it will be released under the title "rhyiad and the bedouins"......  could someone shed some light on this?     if i remember correctly it was called oklahoma on the vegas setlist.... but oklahoma was a different song and they played rhyiad instead of it.........   but there were more setlists i guess....

ok this is the vegas setlist:

Welcome to the Jungle
Mr. Brownstone
Nightrain
Think About You
Out Ta Get Me
Oh My God
My Michelle
It's So Easy
Rocket Queen
Sweet Child O' Mine
Patience
Live and Let Die
November Rain
Knockin' On Heaven's Door
The Blues
Oklahoma
Chinese Democracy
Untitled
You Could Be Mine
Silk Worms
Paradise City

actually there is oklahoma AND and untitled song........

[smeagol2124]

OKlahoma was dropped, they played Rhiad instead.  Untitled was Madagascar, it made it's debut in Rio.  We've had the discussion 100 times before 

Sorelle said back in October/November that the draft had been sent to editors and was going through edit/fact checking.  A book is a lot like an album.  Even if it is finished, it's still up to the publisher (or record company) to determine release.  My hunch is the book will come out when CD does.

[WARose]

OKlahoma was dropped, they played Rhiad instead.  Untitled was Madagascar, it made it's debut in Rio.  We've had the discussion 100 times before  Grin

   sorry  but this is my first post

but why was it untitled? in rio axl seemed pretty sure to know how it`s called......

but my main question is if the title rhyiad was ever confirmed?

[smeagol2124]

Well, if you listen to the Vegas boot, Axl says "This is called Rhiyad and the Bedouins" as the intro is being played.  That's the best I can give ya 

[misterbrownstone]

OKlahoma was dropped, they played Rhiad instead.? Untitled was Madagascar, it made it's debut in Rio.? We've had the discussion 100 times before? Grin

? ?sorry? but this is my first post

but why was it untitled? in rio axl seemed pretty sure to know how it`s called......

but my main question is if the title rhyiad was ever confirmed?

yes, it was on a setlist sheet.  i'll look for a picture of it.

it's was spelled "RHIAD", though.

[jimmythegent]

its an intriguing name for a song

why would anyone feel that Better is Rhiad?

[jameslofton29]

it's was spelled "RHIAD", though.

They didn't know the correct spelling of Riyadh?

[Queen of Everything]

This link isnt working anymore? 

[WARose]

its an intriguing name for a song

why would anyone feel that Better is Rhiad?

don`t know......   but i do think that the title Rhyiad and the Bedouins might only was a working title.....

[jameslofton29]

its an intriguing name for a song

why would anyone feel that Better is Rhiad?

don`t know......? ?but i do think that the title Rhyiad and the Bedouins might only was a working title.....

Key word in that sentence is "might". No reason to believe that it is. Axl has said before that The Blues was a working title. I brought this up before and people thought I was insane and no one believed it, so why should we believe speculation of Riyadh being a working title when there is nothing to back it up? Strange how when people hear him mention a new song, they automatically think it has to be one of the songs we've already heard.

[WARose]

its an intriguing name for a song

why would anyone feel that Better is Rhiad?

don`t know......   but i do think that the title Rhyiad and the Bedouins might only was a working title.....

Key word in that sentence is "might". No reason to believe that it is. Axl has said before that The Blues was a working title. I brought this up before and people thought I was insane and no one believed it, so why should we believe speculation of Riyadh being a working title when there is nothing to back it up? Strange how when people hear him mention a new song, they automatically think it has to be one of the songs we've already heard.

i don`t know if i made it clear. but i actually don?t belive that better is rhiad nor do i really believe that rhyiad is a working title......... but it?s a possibility    i just wanted to know if axl even mentioned the title....

[BurningHills]

Listen to the version of Rhiad from Osaka (Axl's monitor mix) - in the background, you hear two people on stage talking...Robin and I'd guess Tommy:

"What is it?"

"Rhiad"

"Ready Robin?"

-Jeff

[jameslofton29]

Listen to the version of Rhiad from Osaka (Axl's monitor mix) - in the background, you hear two people on stage talking...Robin and I'd guess Tommy:

"What is it?"

"Rhiad"

"Ready Robin?"

-Jeff

Or you can just listen to the House of Blues show and hear Axl say Riyadh with his own mouth.

[Voodoochild]

ok this is the vegas setlist:

Welcome to the Jungle
Mr. Brownstone
Nightrain
Think About You
Out Ta Get Me
Oh My God
My Michelle
It's So Easy
Rocket Queen
Sweet Child O' Mine
Patience
Live and Let Die
November Rain
Knockin' On Heaven's Door
The Blues
Oklahoma
Chinese Democracy
Untitled
You Could Be Mine
Silk Worms
Paradise City

actually there is oklahoma AND and untitled song........

Where did you find this setlist? I guess Oklahoma was just some mistake in some review. Later, people believed it was someone from the band crew who said they would play Oklahoma, but I don't belive in this story, though.

About Madagascar, I remember that girl who was at some halloween party at Axl's house and said he showed the song to her, calling Madagascar (by that time, she talked about it on the official gnr forum on gnronline.com, but nobody believed her because people thought the title "Madagascar" was stupid and it wouldn't fit in a GN'R style).

So, I don't know about this "untlited" song, if it ever existed on the real Vegas setlist.

[MR W,AXL ROSE]

thats right,she said tommy stinson came to axls house and axl previewed some songs to her and one was titled madagascar.

[WARose]

ok this is the vegas setlist:

Welcome to the Jungle
Mr. Brownstone
Nightrain
Think About You
Out Ta Get Me
Oh My God
My Michelle
It's So Easy
Rocket Queen
Sweet Child O' Mine
Patience
Live and Let Die
November Rain
Knockin' On Heaven's Door
The Blues
Oklahoma
Chinese Democracy
Untitled
You Could Be Mine
Silk Worms
Paradise City

actually there is oklahoma AND and untitled song........

Where did you find this setlist? I guess Oklahoma was just some mistake in some review. Later, people believed it was someone from the band crew who said they would play Oklahoma, but I don't belive in this story, though.

About Madagascar, I remember that girl who was at some halloween party at Axl's house and said he showed the song to her, calling Madagascar (by that time, she talked about it on the official gnr forum on gnronline.com, but nobody believed her because people thought the title "Madagascar" was stupid and it wouldn't fit in a GN'R style).

So, I don't know about this "untlited" song, if it ever existed on the real Vegas setlist.

the setlist is from rollingstone.com

[SWINGTRADER]

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[Mandy.]

I've never heard of it.

[Pandora]

I ordered it from Amazon, but for now it seems to be delayed (cancelled?)

[AxlRoseVen]

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should we believe in some mad writter who wanna say lies 'bout AXL?  Axl isn't so fucking idiot to tell his life that way