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Love SFD. Stephan Thomas Erpahwine is a cock-sucker.
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Quote from: killingvector on October 15, 2005, 04:05:04 PM
I actually like the GnR cover better than the Stones' original; there are tempo changes, axl's voice sounds both refined and demonic, and the dueling guitar solos nicely compliments the chaos at the end of the song. I always thought the Stones' version lacked that explosion, especially during the outro.
Quote from: Voodoochild on October 15, 2005, 04:42:20 PM
Agreed 100%. I love the dueling guitar solos, I think its really cool. In fact, I think Paul did an awesome job, putting some modern sounds to the song (even if the mix was really lazy).
make that 200%
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I love the that movie and GN'R's SFTD at the end makes IS ICK ASS!
Quote from: DemocracyRose on October 15, 2005, 04:30:29 PM
Axl sounds fucking great om SFD...
I dont hear a band breaking up...
Im glad that GNR did that song....
most definitely, me too. ?
Dontcha love Axl's ooowhooo's ?
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Re: What's wrong with Sympathy For The Devil and/or The Spaghetti Incident?
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I think they did a pretty decent job covering one of the greatest songs ever recorded.
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just my two cents...I think the GNR version sucks ass...for me it's the laziest thing they've ever done
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I like both versions.
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Quote from: W 23 AXL II on October 15, 2005, 03:28:32 PM
first off, its MUCH better then the original, Stones version
but really, i think the song has energy and axl sounds great. the end is alittle messy, and the mix isn't great....there doesnt seem to be any LEAD guitar, but 2 or 3 semi-leads, if that makes sense. but i think the cover is really cool, why do people KILL IT?
I'd have to agree. Listened extensively to both and vastly prefer the GNR version, streets ahead in my opinion. Jagger just doesnt really drive the lyrics like Axl does, when listening to him I could really believe it was the devil recanting his exploits throughout the centuries but not with Jagger.
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when listening to him I could really believe it was the devil recanting his exploits throughout the centuries
yeah, like KillingVector was saying, Axl got that devilish voice spot on
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First off, anyone who likes the GNR version more than the Rolling Stones is either 13 y.o. or completely insane. Slash, Duff & Matt went in the studio & did all the music. Then later on Axl & his ego, along with his sidekick clown Paul, came in and did the vocals & some rhythm guitar. The rest of the band didnt even know that Paul was recording with Axl. It all turned out shit in the end, and I think most of the band wishes they left that song alone.
On a different note, whats up with the "drink your milk, milkboy" or whatever they say at the end of the song? Whatever it is, IMO it sounds silly as shit and doesnt really belong there.
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Quote from: Fitz on October 17, 2005, 01:16:24 AM
First off, anyone who likes the GNR version more than the Rolling Stones is either 13 y.o. or completely insane.? Slash, Duff & Matt went in the studio & did all the music.? Then later on Axl & his ego, along with his sidekick clown Paul, came in and did the vocals & some rhythm guitar.? The rest of the band didnt even know that Paul was recording with Axl.? It all turned out shit in the end, and I think most of the band wishes they left that song alone.
On a different note,? whats up with the "drink your milk, milkboy" or whatever they say at the end of the song?? Whatever it is, IMO it sounds silly as shit and doesnt really belong there.
You might just find the answer to your question here..
http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=20639.0
Most seem to think random quotes were thrown in for the hell of it, or "milkboy" isnt said at all, instead its "save us goatboy".
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Quote from: Fitz on October 17, 2005, 01:16:24 AM
First off, anyone who likes the GNR version more than the Rolling Stones is either 13 y.o. or completely insane.
Sorry for have a different opinion, but I'm not insane nor 13 yo (I wish I was again
). The Rolling Stones version is very good, but it's a little dated,
IMO
. Same goes with Gimme Shelter. I like the Hellacopter's version more than the original. But Wild Horses will be always better with Jagger & co. for me.
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My very first impression of that song (back when it was first released) was 'cool cover....but Gilby sounds like shit....'
Had no idea it was Tobias, but I knew that the guitar playing sucked out loud.
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Quote from: kever20 on October 15, 2005, 04:08:58 PM
The originals are always the best. I can't think of any covers at the moment that were beter than the original. I'm not saying that GNR did a bad job, it just isn't as good as the original. I didn't even know J's A did the song....
/Kevin Miller
I do agree with with all the original, just because something sounds great doesn't mean its better cause the credit is for the one that came up with the tune, the lyrics, etc etc so the original is always the best.
Anyway I like SFD specially cause is on my fave movie IWTV and the end of that movie kicked ass!
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I thought it was cool at the time and I still think it sounds great (I like it better than the orig Stones personally, but then again I've never been a stones fan (I'm too young
).... but I was also disappointed because at the time I wanted an new original song not another bloody cover song (and i still do for that matter
) I also never heard the "Sound of GnR breaking up" but they were huge I never figured they would break up.
As an aside, and I may be wrong so correct me if I am, but Axl had stopped recording his vocals with the band by then right? so his vocals were prolly recorded in a little room while he was listening to the bands recording of the music. and of course he sounds good on it, he was at the top of his game back then. It was the last thing the "orig band" did. (Axl, Slash & Duff)
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Quote from: Voodoochild on October 17, 2005, 10:20:34 AM
Quote from: Fitz on October 17, 2005, 01:16:24 AM
First off, anyone who likes the GNR version more than the Rolling Stones is either 13 y.o. or completely insane.
Sorry for have a different opinion, but I'm not insane nor 13 yo (I wish I was again
). The Rolling Stones version is very good, but it's a little dated,
IMO
. Same goes with Gimme Shelter. I like the Hellacopter's version more than the original. But Wild Horses will be always better with Jagger & co. for me.
No cover will ever match the original "Gimme Shelter", thinking otherwise is just lunacy.
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Quote from: AxlsMainMan on October 17, 2005, 10:49:47 AM
Quote from: Voodoochild on October 17, 2005, 10:20:34 AM
Quote from: Fitz on October 17, 2005, 01:16:24 AM
First off, anyone who likes the GNR version more than the Rolling Stones is either 13 y.o. or completely insane.
Sorry for have a different opinion, but I'm not insane nor 13 yo (I wish I was again
). The Rolling Stones version is very good, but it's a little dated,
IMO
. Same goes with Gimme Shelter. I like the Hellacopter's version more than the original. But Wild Horses will be always better with Jagger & co. for me.
No cover will ever match the original "Gimme Shelter", thinking otherwise is just lunacy.
No, tell peope what they should like more is lunacy. I talked about ME, MY opinion. Is that too hard to understand?
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Quote from: kever20 on October 15, 2005, 04:08:58 PM
The originals are always the best. I can't think of any covers at the moment that were beter than the original. I'm not saying that GNR did a bad job, it just isn't as good as the original. I didn't even know J's A did the song....
/Kevin Miller
I do agree with with all the original, just because something sounds great doesn't mean its better cause the credit is for the one that came up with the tune, the lyrics, etc etc so the original is always the best.
Not true. All Along The Watchtower and Hey Joe were both covers, but way better than the originals. Even Bob Dylan said AATW is better with Hendrix. It's called "improved".
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Quote from: AxlsMainMan on October 17, 2005, 10:49:47 AM
Quote from: Voodoochild on October 17, 2005, 10:20:34 AM
Quote from: Fitz on October 17, 2005, 01:16:24 AM
First off, anyone who likes the GNR version more than the Rolling Stones is either 13 y.o. or completely insane.
Sorry for have a different opinion, but I'm not insane nor 13 yo (I wish I was again
). The Rolling Stones version is very good, but it's a little dated,
IMO
. Same goes with Gimme Shelter. I like the Hellacopter's version more than the original. But Wild Horses will be always better with Jagger & co. for me.
No cover will ever match the original "Gimme Shelter", thinking otherwise is just lunacy.
No, tell peope what they should like more is lunacy. I talked about ME, MY opinion. Is that too hard to understand?
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Quote from: kever20 on October 15, 2005, 04:08:58 PM
The originals are always the best. I can't think of any covers at the moment that were beter than the original. I'm not saying that GNR did a bad job, it just isn't as good as the original. I didn't even know J's A did the song....
/Kevin Miller
I do agree with with all the original, just because something sounds great doesn't mean its better cause the credit is for the one that came up with the tune, the lyrics, etc etc so the original is always the best.
Not true. All Along The Watchtower and Hey Joe were both covers, but way better than the originals. Even Bob Dylan said AATW is better with Hendrix. It's called "improved".
I agree with you to an extent Voodoo, but you cant improve on perfection, a la Gimme Shelter
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Sympathy For the Devil by GNR is a great tribute to the original but isn't better in my opion, sounds very much like a well produced demo...
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Quote from: Voodoochild on October 17, 2005, 11:56:25 AM
Not true. All Along The Watchtower and Hey Joe were both covers, but way better than the originals. Even Bob Dylan said AATW is better with Hendrix. It's called "improved".
Yeah but that doesn't change the fact that even it could sound better, but it wasn't invented by the guys, is just a tribute, a good cover but never better than the original.
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Man, I am a big Stones fan. But for fucksake, on voice alone Axl kicks Mick's ass. Mick was one of the original white rappers. He really doesn't sing. Axl on the other hand sings SFTD like a maniac. Seriously crazy awesome vocals by the man. And musically forget about it. I like the different arrangements made by GNR, and the guitar work is fucking great. , You can't tell me Richards work even comes close to the guitar work on GNR's version. From a vocal and musical perspective GNR's version is vastly superior. I personally like the arrangemts in GNR's version better too. And the end of the song is a R n' R bliss jam.
But like with a lot of other examples, I would almost never say that a remake is better then the original. The stones created this awesome song so respect has to be given. But GNR's kicks more ass and is much trippier.
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