Lesser hopes for CD's release

[Sillything]

"where's izzy?"

he's in slash's ass

That was funny And while in there writing songs about getting his teeth pulled and scrotum examined

[AxlFink]

I remember that a few years ago many on this board would say "When CD comes out it's going to rock the planet!!!" and that it's going to be the best album ever.  As tracks have been leaked out I hear much less optimism: some people have posted that "it'll be at least as good as the worst half of UYI... which is still awesome." 

What happened to that optimism?  (Is it still there?  Have people decided to "be realistic"?  Or is the material just not good enough to imply that the album will be 'earth-shattering'?)

Have your opinions changed?  (How do you think the album will be after hearing the demos?)

__kai__

wtf are you talking about- the material could not be better- the la weekly wrote up a little article about how the new music sounds great and axl is the only person to save rock.  Seriously, dumb post.

[AxlFink]

vr is cool... but not even close to how good these "demos" will be when completed.  GnR creates art.  VR is just another rock band.  A good one.  GnR is  a great one.

[VRslash]

What happened to that optimism?  (Is it still there?  Have people decided to "be realistic"?  Or is the material just not good enough to imply that the album will be 'earth-shattering'?)

its sad but it seems to happen to forums after people stay here so long. people get pissed when you want to talk about stuff like the old gnr geting back to gether. forums are for talking about stuff like this. thats why new people come to the forum. but some people cant shut there fucking pussy mouth. if they dont want to talk about it they dont have to. but they do any way cause they have nothing better to do. but the optimism is gone from here it seems. i dont see no rah rah come out of htgth any more. unless its new comers or real gnr fans that want nothing more then exactly what they want.

for example i mad a thread about a reunion. people dont even care that some of use might want to talk about it. the freedom of speach is gone from here. u have to talk about what the vet acounts want to or it gets deleted.  realy sad.




thats why i use other forums.

[misterID]

What happened to that optimism?? (Is it still there?? Have people decided to "be realistic"?? Or is the material just not good enough to imply that the album will be 'earth-shattering'?)

its sad but it seems to happen to forums after people stay here so long. people get pissed when you want to talk about stuff like the old gnr geting back to gether. forums are for talking about stuff like this. thats why new people come to the forum. but some people cant shut there fucking pussy mouth. if they dont want to talk about it they dont have to. but they do any way cause they have nothing better to do. but the optimism is gone from here it seems. i dont see no rah rah come out of htgth any more. unless its new comers or real gnr fans that want nothing more then exactly what they want.

for example i mad a thread about a reunion. people dont even care that some of use might want to talk about it. the freedom of speach is gone from here. u have to talk about what the vet acounts want to or it gets deleted.? realy sad.




thats why i use other forums.

Well, go make a thread somewhere else about a reunion. Its been talked about here 9 billion times. But here's the breakdown of that discussion: the majority of people here don't want a reunion.

As for not seeing the optmism... are you people blind?

[jameslofton29]

What happened to that optimism?? (Is it still there?? Have people decided to "be realistic"?? Or is the material just not good enough to imply that the album will be 'earth-shattering'?)

its sad but it seems to happen to forums after people stay here so long. people get pissed when you want to talk about stuff like the old gnr geting back to gether. forums are for talking about stuff like this. thats why new people come to the forum. but some people cant shut there fucking pussy mouth. if they dont want to talk about it they dont have to. but they do any way cause they have nothing better to do. but the optimism is gone from here it seems. i dont see no rah rah come out of htgth any more. unless its new comers or real gnr fans that want nothing more then exactly what they want.

for example i mad a thread about a reunion. people dont even care that some of use might want to talk about it. the freedom of speach is gone from here. u have to talk about what the vet acounts want to or it gets deleted.? realy sad.




thats why i use other forums.

The reason people dont keep whining for a reunion is because its really old news, and there are better things ahead(CD) than praying for 20 year old rehash. But I understand you, and other noobs frustrations. You come to the forums, and our either an old fan with no forum experience, or a new fan that listens to the old cds and doesnt know much about the new band. But just by reading a few threads here should make you understand that people are looking forward to something new, and not dreaming of some lame attempt at past glory. There are specific threads here for reunion discussion(see dead horse section), but not many people post there because not many people care for that.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

I remember that a few years ago many on this board would say "When CD comes out it's going to rock the planet!!!" and that it's going to be the best album ever.? As tracks have been leaked out I hear much less optimism: some people have posted that "it'll be at least as good as the worst half of UYI... which is still awesome."?

What happened to that optimism?? (Is it still there?? Have people decided to "be realistic"?? Or is the material just not good enough to imply that the album will be 'earth-shattering'?)

Have your opinions changed?? (How do you think the album will be after hearing the demos?)

__kai__

Chinese Democracy by the leaked tracks so far are some of the? best songs released over the past ten years easily.
Id take some of the new songs over a lot of the AFD songs. If? you want to compare here goes.


CD > You're crazy
riyadh > anything goes
The blues > my michelle
Madagascar > Think about you
IRS > out ta get me
Better > rocket queen
TWAT > night train
CITR? >? its so easy


So thus far the demos and live songs stack up very well against AFD and they are just demos

Are you even a fan of GNR in the first place?
That has to be the stupidest post I have ever read on the net.? You can like the songs all you want, but claiming they are better then one of the greatest and most influential rock albums of all time... ? Put down the pipe, dude.

Instead of talking smack, tell me how the songs I mentioned are not better than those on AFD!! You cant tell me the new songs are not better than anything goes, you're crazy, or think about you at the very least.

[Krispy Kreme]

Ok Slash,Duff, Izzy, Steven, and everyone else that used to be in GNR........... would you guys please quit posting under fake names and creating threads about how bad the record might be!!

The new Guns is gonna kick the shit out of anything VR done, and that's all there is to it.

Let's not go there. Both bands can coexist. They have different sounds and different approaches. It is not either /or, luckily, and for fans, they can like both, or neither. So don't turn this into something it is not.

But my 2 cents: you can't predict what the new Guns will do until the album is released. So don't even try.

[madagas]

Personally, I am quite certain now that I will prefer Chinese over AFD for the same reasons I prefer the Illusions over AFD. What separates Afd from the pack in rock history is not the quality of the tracks all the way through (because there are some stinkers) but the SINGLES. Three perfect singles-that is what drove the sales of AFD-not it's artistic merit-even though that is still very high! 

[mikegiuliana]

the songs are really good (the new ones), but they lack the all out assualt afd had... The solos, the riffs, the intensity and angst is far greater on afd..  Ever since the newest demo came out we have had some crazy statements.... if you live in the states you will know gnr is known as a ONE album band that faded away to most.. Everyone knows afd, most bars carry afd only... Illusions as great as they were are just not that known in the long run.. yes people know November rain, or maybe civil war kohd but the album/s itself didn't last the test of time and never ranks anywhere....  People act like because axl is in his 40's that he can't do afd type songs... No onr said he had to go move to the street again or talk about drug abuse..

Simply wttj, scom, pc, or rq destroy anything off these demos...

[alexh0618]

Simply wttj, scom, pc, or rq destroy anything off these demos...

[Siliconmessiah]

the songs are really good (the new ones), but they lack the all out assualt afd had... The solos, the riffs, the intensity and angst is far greater on afd...

It?s 2006. Music has changed.
AFD is good. But I certainly don?t need another one...

[Wooody]

if you live in the states

If you live in the rest of the world you will know that GNR's success didnt end with AFD.

All the haters and  naysayers come from the U.S. it seems. 

[mikegiuliana]

if you live in the states

If you live in the rest of the world you will know that GNR's success didnt end with AFD.

All the haters and? naysayers come from the U.S. it seems.?

who said it ended in the states?? I said it's not remembered in the states... Bands do sell millions of albums only to not be remembered later. Illusions went platinum here overnight sold crazzy amounts of records, but most people know afd is all I am saying..  I go by sales here, I live here what they do in australia or france means nothing to me.. I'm sure david hassellhoff sells millions in germany, but people here couldn't tell you three of his songs..

I also never said I wanted another afd, I meant rockers of that degree thrown in with his softer stuff...  Are you not allowed to havve a great opening riff in 06

[Wooody]

what they do in australia or france means nothing to me..

Ahh, the great american spirit, you gotta love it.

All that matters is world domination. I could care less how much they sell or mean in the US alone?

[ppbebe]

Simply wttj, scom, pc, or rq destroy anything off these demos...

Better alone will blow away all of them without fucking DESTROYing anything. 

[Siliconmessiah]

Better alone will blow away all of them without fucking DESTROYing anything. 

I couldn?t have said it better myself...((iish, isn?t that the name of a record from Meat Loaf?  )))   

[da_pope]

I also never said I wanted another afd, I meant rockers of that degree thrown in with his softer stuff...? Are you not allowed to havve a great opening riff in 06

They have no good riff writers in Axl + Friends.
Buckethead is a shredder, he doesn't write music just taps alot.

Axl could not write another AFD even if he wanted to... The Key ingredients are missing.
And don't give me some bullshit excuse that Axl has "grown up" because so has Slash and Duff an Matt yet they still play Hard, Loud and Awsome.

[Siliconmessiah]

Buckethead is a shredder, he doesn't write music just taps alot.

But can I give you this?: Buckethead ain?t in there no more.



And yes, the solo in There Was A Time is only shredding.................................  

[Wooody]

because so has Slash and Duff an Matt yet they still play Hard, Loud and Awsome.

Nope, they don't.