Lesser hopes for CD's release

[da_pope]

The only person saying it wont be as good as expected is you and the VR fans who secretly wish for a reunion.

And a fuckload of critics already judging the leaks to be "sub-par".
But I'll this agian. I WANT THE ALBUM TO BE GOOD!!!

And I'm praying like crazy for a reunion. It's no secret... Why would it be.
Don't tell me you'd rather have Axl and friends then the original Guns N' Roses lineup.

[manny]

The only person saying it wont be as good as expected is you and the VR fans who secretly wish for a reunion.

And a fuckload of critics already judging the leaks to be "sub-par".
But I'll this agian. I WANT THE ALBUM TO BE GOOD!!!

And I'm praying like crazy for a reunion. It's no secret... Why would it be.
Don't tell me you'd rather have Axl and friends then the original Guns N' Roses lineup.

At this poi,t I can honestly say I would. Slash & Duff do thier own thing which is nice and raw, but axl and co. are currently working on a much larger scale. Izzy is cool, but some how he got overrated by people claiming he was the brains behind GNR. I've bought his solo records and they aren't exactlly brilliant. I guess if you're looking for a old school rocking album stick with VR. If you're looking for a artistic, mindblowing album (not neccassarily rocking) you'd have to with GNR.

[da_pope]

At this poi,t I can honestly say I would. Slash & Duff do thier own thing which is nice and raw, but axl and co. are currently working on a much larger scale. Izzy is cool, but some how he got overrated by people claiming he was the brains behind GNR. I've bought his solo records and they aren't exactlly brilliant. I guess if you're looking for a old school rocking album stick with VR. If you're looking for a artistic, mindblowing album (not neccassarily rocking) you'd have to with GNR.

Lets agree to disagree... agreed?

[supaplex]

ok guys, saying that these demos are better than the afd songs i think it's a little bit of an exageration. they are demos people!!! and afd is still the greatest rock debut of all times. i don't think we shold compare these demos to any finished product by any band, vr or old gnr. i like them and i think they have great potential. but still i'm waiting for the finished product to give a definite opinion.
as for saying that you don't want to hear epic songs, should i remind you that not all the songs are epic, only if you consider a song of 4-5 minutes long epic. of course, compared to the 3:30 long songs that get released now they are epic. and to say that a song isn't good because it has more than 5 min. that's just wrong. maybe you should't listen to nov rain, civil war, paradise city, estranged and that's just to name a few.
let's keep supporting axl and let's continue the comparison after we hear cd.
till then my hopes are really high that this will be a great album!

[SWINGTRADER]

These new gnr tunes  are pretty cool   but anybody who says they are better than any AFD tune is a moron.   

[Wooody]

Fall to pieces is cheesy as hell, so is the gay video.

I don't think ChiDem will change the face of music today, because quite honestly music is like politics, stupid dumbfucks will swallow crap, but never something made with some intelligence... but I do believe ChiDem will change lives, such as my own and other pathetic posters like me (most of you, yes you).

[mikegiuliana]

None of these leaked songs come close to Slither or Fall to Pieces...

That has to be a fucking joke. You are either closed minded, or have no taste to make such a statement. Or you are just really young and dont really get the mature lyrics that Axl writes.

Not that I care because some people like that style better... I know if axl did either of those songs a good deal of these forum members would have loved it.. I think axl on ftps would have been great, had an illusion's vibe, then with slither it's a really good rocker (hell the outside world liked it) axl on it with that cool opening and kick ass solo it would had been a nice compact rocker ...

My point was when irs first leaked people kept saying oh this beats contraband over and over.. I don't even think th entire song had surfaced yet, so if people can make crazy points over an unfinished partial demo then why not on two vr songs that many people liked, and that saw lots of airplay (still hear both on occassion) and did quite weel on mainstream modern rock charts #1-2

[mikegiuliana]

VR fans seem to be threatened by these new songs for some reason...

You just hit the nail on the head. In fact, if you'll go check out the VR section, there's not as much activity there lately. Why? Because they're in this section insulting GNR and bashing these new demos. Now that it looks like the VR well is drying up, they got to come here and try to poison our well.

you mean the same way new gnr only fans were in the vr section being a constant downer when we were all having fun seeing vr listening to contraband ? People need to accept that not everyone is going to like cd's music/dedmos

I happen to like a lot of songs from these demos, but as you see outside forums have put down quite a few songs, and not all the reviews thus far are favorable.. I doubt they have a vr agenda to bash new gnr tunes..

Also to add duff just mentioned the new album and how they got to know eachother better as a group and they expect to do better..
If people were allowed to just dislike a song then everything would be fine.. many people won't allow someone to dislike something, it's always they have something against axl, or they are slash fans..? Does that mean I should love every song axl does because I like both bands?? Also everything turns into cb vs cd so it gets quite annoying, like people can't hear the new demos without saying how CB stinks or something.. Finally I'll be all these haters have listend to the demos a hell of a lot longer then most did contraband.. I have listened to the new tunes well over 30 times on good speakers, headphones, gave songs a chance to grow on me, etc.. So I did my part as a fan, but I can not like all and it has nothing to do with my other interests..

[Axl_owns_dexter]

Fuckheads, good music is well...good music.  A FEW songs kicked donkey nuts on Contraband.  But, I think Axl has a much more complete disk in store for us.  I'm not hating, slither is better than any rocker Axl has previewed thus far, but Axl has only shown demo's so far, no need to compare yet.  The demo's to CD most likely blow away the demo's to Contraband.  Hell, I'd take Axl's demo's over most of contraband anyway.  Take that...Slash nutswingers.   .

[jameslofton29]

you mean the same way new gnr only fans were in the vr section being a constant downer when we were all having fun seeing vr listening to contraband ? People need to accept that not everyone is going to like cd's music/demos

Two good posts in a row Mike, butI will quote this part.
 You're right, some people in this section go cause trouble in the VR section, and I think it is just as pathetic as the VR freaks doing it here. I know that everyone isnt gonna like new GNR, but there is people that say stuff like VR's lyrics are better(obviously they are not) or make some other unnecessary dig. ?I dont see their reasons for doing so. As you know Mike, I am not much of a VR fan even though i do like the people in the band, but I dont go to VR forums bashing the band and their music to people who clearly love it, and I dont think others should either. VR fans should do the same. Of course they dont have to like these demos, but they should just say that instead of saying crap like Fall to Pieces is better than Catcher in the Rye just for the purpose of riling feathers here.

[supaplex]

@ axl-dexter: and i bet you listen to the demos from afd and uyi all day

[Skeletor]

Some of you can't accept the fact that something you've been waiting for for the majority of the time I've been alive isn't as great as you expected.

Stupidity beyond words. Thanks for telling me what I like or don't like, I sort of suck at deciding myself

[duga]

Better > rocket queen
TWAT > night train
CITR  >  its so easy

Please stop 

[Gaymo, the Hobbit]

@ da_pope: you have a pretty big mouth for a 16 year old,who hasn't even been around when gnr was big..

[mikegiuliana]

I remember that a few years ago many on this board would say "When CD comes out it's going to rock the planet!!!" and that it's going to be the best album ever.? As tracks have been leaked out I hear much less optimism: some people have posted that "it'll be at least as good as the worst half of UYI... which is still awesome."?

What happened to that optimism?? (Is it still there?? Have people decided to "be realistic"?? Or is the material just not good enough to imply that the album will be 'earth-shattering'?)

Have your opinions changed?? (How do you think the album will be after hearing the demos?)

__kai__

Chinese Democracy by the leaked tracks so far are some of the? best songs released over the past ten years easily.
Id take some of the new songs over a lot of the AFD songs. If? you want to compare here goes.


CD > You're crazy
riyadh > anything goes
The blues > my michelle
Madagascar > Think about you
IRS > out ta get me
Better > rocket queen
TWAT > night train
CITR? >? its so easy


So thus far the demos and live songs stack up very well against AFD and they are just demos

fuck if we get a few more demos you might as well throw out afd

[jameslofton29]

fuck if we get a few more demos you might as well throw out afd

Good one mike. 

[mikegiuliana]

fuck if we get a few more demos you might as well throw out afd

Good one mike.?

most people favor afd, and I have to say RQ is easily one of my top favorite gnr songs, it's amazing.. hard soft powerfull has it all.

[Wooody]

fuck if we get a few more demos you might as well throw out afd

Good one mike.?

Get a room already ! 

[nesquick]

We still haven't heard Richard Fortus on these demos, and he is a new weapon ready to Rock.
So I suppose we still haven't heard the full potencial of this new band... there's much more to come?

[ppbebe]

These new gnr tunes  are pretty cool   but anybody who says they are better than any AFD tune is a moron.   

As moronic as those who say the beatles songs off sgt peppers are better than any tune off Help. After 1966 they no more sounded like the Beatles. Their disparate attempts to keep up with the kids resulted in losing their roots of the Liverpool sound. Listen to All my loving, PS I love you or can?t buy me love, which are real beatles, rough and edgy, Bahahahaha.