Mark Chapman (catcher in the Rye)

[The Dog]

Yeah, its a great book - I don't know too many people who can't relate to it.

For some reasons a lot of pychotic people like it.  The Mel Gibson movie "conspiracy theory" plays into that fact...his character feels he HAS to buy a copy of the book anytime he ever sees it.

[ShotgunBlues1978]

Yeah, its a great book - I don't know too many people who can't relate to it.

For some reasons a lot of pychotic people like it.  The Mel Gibson movie "conspiracy theory" plays into that fact...his character feels he HAS to buy a copy of the book anytime he ever sees it.

A lot of nutjobs embrace the book because it's about being an outcast

[SOLGER]

Has anyone read the book? I was thinking of checking it out.

yeah Holden dies at the end 

[SWINGTRADER]

here is something for you conspiracy theorists out there? ? ?




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[andypa1]

Suprised it hasnt been mentioned yet, but there is a film about mark chapman being made and well into production at the moment. is this a coincidence or could axls track be on it? It was on the news cos yoko ono was complaining and protesting, about the film

[McDuff]

I really don't remember much about the day Lennon was killed,mostly because I was very young and another reason is that that my family didn't listen to any kind of rock music,they all claimed it was"devil music",anyway,that's probably why I turned out to be the asshole that I am today.I've never read the book,maybe I'll check it out tho.

[Disco Volante]

It is easy to assume its about the Lennon murder.  But does anyone know when Axl said the song is about the murder?

[Jonx]

I really can't begin to comprehend what this must have been like though...how big of a news story this must have been.  My generation has Cobain, but he can't even hold a candle to Lennon.  And that was a suicide, not a senseless murder.  The Beatles were/are still one of the most popular/famous bands in the ENTIRE world.....just blows my mind.

Cobain was the dumbest fucking thing, I was just about out of HS when that happened... I remember mtv had suicide hotlines going say not to kill yourself because kurt did.... I was like please!

Someone who is thinking along the same lines as me..... Cobain overrated in life and death!

Jonx

[McDuff]

I really can't begin to comprehend what this must have been like though...how big of a news story this must have been.  My generation has Cobain, but he can't even hold a candle to Lennon.  And that was a suicide, not a senseless murder.  The Beatles were/are still one of the most popular/famous bands in the ENTIRE world.....just blows my mind.

Cobain was the dumbest fucking thing, I was just about out of HS when that happened... I remember mtv had suicide hotlines going say not to kill yourself because kurt did.... I was like please!

Someone who is thinking along the same lines as me..... Cobain overrated in life and death!

Jonx

Yeah I agree with you on that

[jameslofton29]

It is easy to assume its about the Lennon murder.? But does anyone know when Axl said the song is about the murder?

No he never said that, but its obvious its what he is referring to in the lyrics.

[lookingforbigfoot]

Man, stop taking snippits of the songs out of context, picking ONE word out and then saying they mean this...

"all at once the song I heard"

UM - how is that 'do it do it do it'

how about taking the whole thing...

"all at once the song I heard, no longer would it play, for anybody or anyone"

Um, dude, that's another way of saying someone died without actually saying someone died.  And since Lennon was a musician, the song no longer playing is a fitting reference to his death.

But man i hate it when people so blatantly misinterpret things.  No wonder axl doesn't say anything.  With fans like that, the words get so twisted and taken out of context I'm sure he's just sick (and probably a little amused) at the whole situation.

[AxlFink]

Suprised it hasnt been mentioned yet, but there is a film about mark chapman being made and well into production at the moment. is this a coincidence or could axls track be on it? It was on the news cos yoko ono was complaining and protesting, about the film

who is playing chapman? i bet the song will be in the movie but CD better be out before then!

[Axl4Prez2004]

I grew up in New York State and CITR was required reading for us. 

It's a must-read for all adolescents in my eyes.

To me it's really sad to see kids nowadays in areas that ban books like CITR.   

Also, thanks for the informative posts people.  Good stuff.   

[killingvector]

Suprised it hasnt been mentioned yet, but there is a film about mark chapman being made and well into production at the moment. is this a coincidence or could axls track be on it? It was on the news cos yoko ono was complaining and protesting, about the film

who is playing chapman? i bet the song will be in the movie but CD better be out before then!

the film is called Chapter 27 and it just wrapped up principle shooting. MDC is being played by Jared Leto, who gained almost 30 pounds to play the chubby, disillusioned killer. 

[knut]

Queen guitarist plays on new Guns N Roses song

As another new Guns N? Roses song leaked on to the Internet, Queen guitarist Brian May posted a message on his website confirming himself as the guitarist on the song.

?Catcher in the Rye? is a huge classic rock-sounding epic, with hints of Beatles and Queen influence. The song?s title is a reference to the book David Chapman carried the day he killed former Beatle John Lennon.


http://www.arbiteronline.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/03/09/440f9fb868f10

[Journeyman]

I really can't begin to comprehend what this must have been like though...how big of a news story this must have been.? My generation has Cobain, but he can't even hold a candle to Lennon.? And that was a suicide, not a senseless murder.? The Beatles were/are still one of the most popular/famous bands in the ENTIRE world.....just blows my mind.

Cobain was the dumbest fucking thing, I was just about out of HS when that happened... I remember mtv had suicide hotlines going say not to kill yourself because kurt did.... I was like please!

Someone who is thinking along the same lines as me..... Cobain overrated in life and death!

Jonx

Yeah I agree with you on that

me 2

[Mal Brossard]

i bet the song will be in the movie but CD better be out before then!

Axl stated in 2002 to a fan talking to him after the NYC show that Catcher In The Rye was a real song title AND that it would be on the third disc of the three discs he's working on.  He said the third disc would be more introspective, which seems to match the song.

If we can authenticate the recent rumor that there will be three discs, each roughly 3 months apart, starting in June (I remember hearing this, but I don't remember where), then disc three and CITR will be out in the time frame of December 2006 to March 2007.  With the movie coming out in 2007, this is pretty reasonable timing for it.

To me, the song feels like it would certainly fit in well in a movie soundtrack and could have an amazing music video for it.  I can certainly see CITR being on the Chapter 27 soundtrack.

[pilferk]

If we can authenticate the recent rumor that there will be three discs, each roughly 3 months apart, starting in June (I remember hearing this, but I don't remember where), then disc three and CITR will be out in the time frame of December 2006 to March 2007.? With the movie coming out in 2007, this is pretty reasonable timing for it.

You heard it as part of a bogus interview that was posted.  The interview was supposedly conducted by Keanu Reeves, with Axl, at an Oscar's after party and was supposedly on DirectTV.

All of which was proven to be fake...

Indeed, the poster admitted he made it up, and is now banned.

[Mal Brossard]

Oh well.  It made sense for about 5 minutes.  Goddamn fakes.

[bucketheadfan]

thanks fot the info.