New material, how different is it from the old material and why?

[SADIS]

yes he did...

Source please?

[Schwarzgold]

Just one question: What do you think of Estranged?

[Poof!]

dont get me wrong i love axl, thats the reason why im so piss of he made this shit...

No. You're pissed off because he didn't make the music YOU wanted. In this case, the term "shit", is relative. To each his own.

[dr. light]

i explain the thread confusion in the other thread...

i just listen to them tonight and belive me i listen like 20 times each song i still cant believe it.

and dont bash me because i said i think this songs sucks, i love axl but he isnt doing something well otherwise "cd" could be in my cd player right now and i will not have to say these things.

and i really hope that cd blows my mind...because this songs definitily didnt reach the level i was hopin for,.,.or maybe i am a perfectionist.,.

[EccoTides]

People just have to grow, man - Axl's 20 years older, almost to the year. Hearing him sing about the same topics as the songs on AFD would just be sad and desperate. And musically he's got a wide open mind...

It all comes down to this: If you don't like it, don't listen to it. I tried to like Velvet Revolver's album, but I was incredibly bored by it. So I don't listen to it.

[ClintroN]

yes he did...and dont insult me because i didnt insult none of you people

no, BUT YOUR INSULTING MY FAV. fuckin' BAND!!!

...........................to much to say other then your a tossa!!!

[F*ck Fear]

What are you, fucking stupid?

Axl never told anyone he was gonna make the best fucking album ever.

Thanks,someone had to say it.

[dr. light]

axl is not 25 anymore but he is still axl rose

the source for that is over here somewhere believe me its a famous quote

i think estranges is one of the best rockin songs made ever.

and im piss of because guns n roses represented rock n roll for me since i was 11 and this is what i get for havin high hopes on axl?

and im not insultin guns n roses...im insultin axl rose because he is doing something wrong here...

anyway bash me if that will make you all fell better.

[damnsmooth]

I'm sorry, but you can't expect the same type of attitude from a 44 year old man than you can a man in his mid twenties. ?Hell, I'm only 28 (so I can finally sing Estranged and mean it ) But I can still relate to, and think the lyrics are wiser, in the new shit than any of the old shit. ?And I think Axl's vocal performance is incredible also, not to mention the talent the rest of the band has. ?Call me an old pussy all you want, but that is the way I feel.

[gasgage]

phd comment?

It was a polite way of saying you should go back to school and become a little more enlightened.

By the way, if you don't know what phd stands for you should probably not call yourself Dr.

[Wooody]

this songs definitily didnt reach the level --i-- was hopin for,.,.or maybe i am a perfectionist.,.

Key Word : "I"

the songs didn't reach the level for YOU, speak for YOURSELF.

Plenty other people like me think otherwise.

[damnsmooth]

I am personally blown away by these new songs, fuck just when I was convinced it couldn't get better than TWAT, along comes CITR.  I'm sorry if you are dissapointed in these songs, but I couldn't be happier with them

[darkstar_legend]

where have all the good times gone?

Velvet Revolver.

[ClintroN]

axl is not 25 anymore but he is still axl rose

the source for that is over here somewhere believe me its a famous quote

i think estranges is one of the best rockin songs made ever.

and im piss of because guns n roses represented rock n roll for me since i was 11 and this is what i get for havin high hopes on axl?

and im not insultin guns n roses...im insultin axl rose because he is doing something wrong here...

anyway bash me if that will make you all fell better.

your screwd in the head mate!!

[Wooody]

where have all the good times gone?

Velvet Revolver.

Not

[damnsmooth]

where have all the good times gone?

Velvet Revolver.

I have to say that there is no way in hell that Velvet Revolver comes anywhere close to any of these new songs.? Hell, IRS (my personal least favorite) blows away anything Contraband has to offer.

[Jim Bob]

where have all the good times gone?

Velvet Revolver.

I have to say that there is no way in hell that Velvet Revolver comes anywhere cloce to any of these new songs.  Hell, IRS (my personal least favorite) blows away anything Contraband has to offer.

took the words right out of my mouth 

[Meanmachine22]

where have all the good times gone?

Velvet Revolver.

I have to say that there is no way in hell that Velvet Revolver comes anywhere cloce to any of these new songs.? Hell, IRS (my personal least favorite) blows away anything Contraband has to offer.

Where can i sign this please....?

These new songs are incredible (in my opinion)
That album will be massive if the public gives this fucker a cance
took the words right out of my mouth?

[Sakib]

where have all the good times gone?

Velvet Revolver.

I have to say that there is no way in hell that Velvet Revolver comes anywhere cloce to any of these new songs.? Hell, IRS (my personal least favorite) blows away anything Contraband has to offer.

took the words right out of my mouth?

certainly. The only song i think is worse than the Contraband album by VR is silkworms. I'd rather listen to IRS, TWAT, BETTER, Oh my god, Riyadh etc. than Contraband.

[pilferk]

ok so i just listen to the leaked tracks and all i have to say is.,.

better and twat are a piece of shit...how can axl sing on this shitty songs?
is this part of the best rock album of all times?
i cant believe this is guns n roses. even duff?s believe in me has more rock n roll than this songs.

irs and catcher are not so bad but still dont fill the level of appetite or ilusions...
c?mon please someone tell me this isnt real and this songs are jokes because i cant understand what the fuck is axl thinkin when he said "it?s gonna be the best rock album ever"

im disapointed because i expected something mind blowin and all i got were 4 tracks that really leave you with your mouth open sayin "what the fuck is this?"

axl do all of us a favor and call the real guns n roses and make the fukin rock record all of us want to hear...

this dont sound like guns n roses at all...

where is the sex the drugs and the fukin rock n roll in this songs?

and for those that think im an axl basher, im not i love the guy, i saw them here in argentina in 92 93 and saw gilby with steven and belive me, steven may be a lost case but he fuckin rocks more doing guns songs that this piece of shit songs axl leaked..(its obvius it was him)
im piss off because i waited 13 years for some mind blowin songs and this is what i get...?

and by the way, the new guns are all great musicians, but that is the problem they are musicians not rockers...

where have all the good times gone?

It's not 1987 anymore.  They're not starving drug users living the life of start up LA musicians.   The themes of their music are going to reflect their lives.  You write about what you know, and what you're experiencing.  They're not dancing with Brownstone, or downing Nighttrain, or heading to the projects to meet up with a dealer anymore.

Yes, the new material is different than AFD.  It should be.  It's 20 years later.  It's different than UYI's, too, but much closer to that sound.  Which should surprise no one, since UYI's seems like it was much more the "sound" Axl wanted to head toward.  This is UYI evolved, it seems.  For those that liked the UYI sound...this is going to be their cup of tea.  For those wanting a rehash of AFD....not so much.

Axl has said, in the interview with Loder, he set out originally to make a traditional rock record...but couldn't.  So, if that's what you want, or are expecting, stick with VR.  Your comfort level with their material will be much greater.  If you're willing to just listen to the music, with no preconceived notions about what it "should" sound like, you're going to like it a LOT more.  This is not GnR circa '87, or even circa '92.  It is the GNR of the new millenium, the GnR of at least '02, and probably close to the sound of the GnR of '06.

I think the Thread Starter made the point wonderfully....