Did axl achieve his goal with UYI 1 and 2 ?

[oldgunsfan]

either way, i didn't say it. ?He did. ?

Either he wasn't pleased with it or he was making excuses for the delay. ?Being a cynic, that's why I think he said what he said in 2002. ?Trying to justify a 11 year gap between original material. ?Common sense says there is an ajenda when reading a comment like that. ?As well as trotting out an entirely new band on the road for the 1st time in almost 10 years. ?

[oldgunsfan]

saying this because he said he wanted to bury AFD with the UYIs. So do people think he did what he set out to do with the use your illusion albums.? ?

On AFD:

Axl: I wanted this to be the biggest selling debut album from a rock act ever!


On UYI:

Axl: Whether we sell many more records is not necessarily the question, it's just the way we're able to go about recording and putting the records out with a bit more respect than we had before. It gains us more respect in the business world. Some of it is superficial, some of it is very real. Either way it can work to our advantage

Axl: There are probably 30 songs to choose from. We have about 10 ballads that I feel are more credible that 'Sweet Child O' Mine'. We wanted to save those ballads, because we wanted to wait until we had a bigger audience. We never imagined it would be this big, but we have some songs we've been waiting to spring on people for a long time.

[88 Days]

On AFD:

Axl: I wanted this to be the biggest selling debut album from a rock act ever!

axl actually achieved this goal, how cool is that

[oldgunsfan]

On AFD:

Axl: I wanted this to be the biggest selling debut album from a rock act ever!

axl actually achieved this goal, how cool is that

Combined, I think the Illusion albums equalled the sales for AFD. Axl wanted to have them all be one album.  The label wanted to package it as 2 seperate albums.

[88 Days]

On AFD:

Axl: I wanted this to be the biggest selling debut album from a rock act ever!

axl actually achieved this goal, how cool is that

Combined, I think the Illusion albums equalled the sales for AFD. Axl wanted to have them all be one album.? The label wanted to package it as 2 seperate albums.

i know this, i've been a guns fan for 16 years.

[oldgunsfan]

the last 12 have been pretty frustrating heh

[Amish]

I never heard that the record label wanted them to be 2 separate albums. 

I thought Duff said in an interview once, "we released it as two albums because one guy could buy one and his buddy could buy the other and they could make copies for each other."

[mitchejw]

My History of Rock muisc class text book called the illusions "Fairly bloated yet still fairly wonderful"? LOL

Yeha you'll never bury AFD, EVER

Whao? history of rock class? I missed that one during registration

[88 Days]

My History of Rock muisc class text book called the illusions "Fairly bloated yet still fairly wonderful"? LOL

Yeha you'll never bury AFD, EVER

you should call him the same.

[oldgunsfan]

I never heard that the record label wanted them to be 2 separate albums.?

I thought Duff said in an interview once, "we released it as two albums because one guy could buy one and his buddy could buy the other and they could make copies for each other."

Axl: We're going to try and make the longest record that we can. We're going to try and put down as many songs as we can. I don't know if it will be a very, very long single album or maybe a double album.


Axl: I've never really looked at it as two separate albums. That was Geffen Records' marketing plan. I've always looked at it as an entire package. For me it fits together perfectly for the 30 songs in a row. Everything that we decided to record for the album made it. Actually there were 29 songs and "My World" just kind of presented itself.

[88 Days]

I never heard that the record label wanted them to be 2 separate albums.?

I thought Duff said in an interview once, "we released it as two albums because one guy could buy one and his buddy could buy the other and they could make copies for each other."

Axl: We're going to try and make the longest record that we can. We're going to try and put down as many songs as we can. I don't know if it will be a very, very long single album or maybe a double album.


Axl: I've never really looked at it as two separate albums. That was Geffen Records' marketing plan. I've always looked at it as an entire package. For me it fits together perfectly for the 30 songs in a row. Everything that we decided to record for the album made it. Actually there were 29 songs and "My World" just kind of presented itself.

lmao @ putting a song as a closer on the album without telling the rest of the band and they were just like "what the fuck is this?"
only axl....

[sandman]

axl said he wanted to bury appetite. i can remember seeing that interview on mtv several times.

but it's nearly impossible to "bury" an album that is arguably the greatest ever made.

[oldgunsfan]

^^well if said it, he failed....both musically and sales wise

[the dirt]

axl said he wanted to bury appetite. i can remember seeing that interview on mtv several times.

but it's nearly impossible to "bury" an album that is arguably the greatest ever made.

There's nothing wrong with having that mentality though.

[metallex78]

^^well if said it, he failed....both musically and sales wise

I dunno, to me there are moments on UYI that are better than AFD. Certainly not as a whole, but there are solos, lyrics and vocal moments that do bury AFD, at least I feel that way.
It's like the band pushed to give their best performances regardless of style or genre, so in that regard, to me it's a success.

[oldgunsfan]

there is also tons of filler on them i think....but from where I'm coming from.....I like the more ballsier songs so AFD would fit my taste....NR, Estranged, Don't Cry....all good songs but not my favs

AFD, from start to end....just kills the whole way thru

[Chief]

I agree with this. I think overall it may not "bury" AFD but they definitely prove to be more creative and versatile than the AFD stuff ever was.. some of the lyrics are just awesome and deep!!!

^^well if said it, he failed....both musically and sales wise

I dunno, to me there are moments on UYI that are better than AFD. Certainly not as a whole, but there are solos, lyrics and vocal moments that do bury AFD, at least I feel that way.
It's like the band pushed to give their best performances regardless of style or genre, so in that regard, to me it's a success.

[metallex78]

there is also tons of filler on them i think....but from where I'm coming from.....I like the more ballsier songs so AFD would fit my taste....NR, Estranged, Don't Cry....all good songs but not my favs

AFD, from start to end....just kills the whole way thru

Yeah, AFD is solid start to end, but UYI is more of a journey to me, so many musical styles, and I don't consider anything filler at all. Every song serves a purpose and sounds great to me.

[oldgunsfan]

I agree with this. I think overall it may not "bury" AFD but they definitely prove to be more creative and versatile than the AFD stuff ever was.. some of the lyrics are just awesome and deep!!!

^^well if said it, he failed....both musically and sales wise

I dunno, to me there are moments on UYI that are better than AFD. Certainly not as a whole, but there are solos, lyrics and vocal moments that do bury AFD, at least I feel that way.It's like the band pushed to give their best performances regardless of style or genre, so in that regard, to me it's a success.

That's not true.  Don't Cry, Novemebr Rain and Estranged were all written during the AFD/Lies days.

They weren't put on the album because the band made a choice to release a balls to the wall rock album cover to cover.  That creativity was always there.  They chose not to reveal that side until they were more established.

[metallex78]

I agree with this. I think overall it may not "bury" AFD but they definitely prove to be more creative and versatile than the AFD stuff ever was.. some of the lyrics are just awesome and deep!!!

^^well if said it, he failed....both musically and sales wise

I dunno, to me there are moments on UYI that are better than AFD. Certainly not as a whole, but there are solos, lyrics and vocal moments that do bury AFD, at least I feel that way.It's like the band pushed to give their best performances regardless of style or genre, so in that regard, to me it's a success.

That's not true.? Don't Cry, Novemebr Rain and Estranged were all written during the AFD/Lies days.

They weren't put on the album because the band made a choice to release a balls to the wall rock album cover to cover.? That creativity was always there.? They chose not to reveal that side until they were more established.

Yeah that's true, but I'm not talking about when the songs were written, but just comparing the albums for what they are.

AFD is a balls to wall rocker from start to finish, whereas UYI is more like a rock opera! hehe

Plus, even if those songs were written back then, I don't think they would've fitted onto one album, they would've needed a double album which I think is a bit much for a debut.
UYI was clearing the decks of all the old songs the band had written plus delving deeper into other areas of rock that they had already established with AFD.