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parisrocks
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We're all desperate for validation. . .
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February 26, 2006, 01:02:53 PM »
That's why we're not satisfied w/ the album's worth of material that trickled out.
We need the frenzy that Guns N' Roses brings and for everyone else to jump onboard, so we can say, "I told you so. I was there from the beginning".
We want to know that we didn't waste 10 years, and for everyone else to wish they had.
Does a falling tree in the forest make a sound if no one hears it?
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February 26, 2006, 01:05:39 PM »
i was there from the start as in cd start or the actual start?
I personally don't need to be there to say i told you so..
I just want an album, I'm not expecting the frenzy of the old gnr..
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How can there really be a frenzy over a band that most people don't even know still exists?
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Quote from: parisrocks on February 26, 2006, 01:02:53 PM
? Does a falling tree in the forest make a sound if no one hears it?
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February 26, 2006, 01:19:19 PM »
by the way, the frenzy was very gradual
it wasn't like all of a sudden on July 31, 1987; there was this huge frenzy for GnR b/c of Appettite
AFD didn't even hit number 1 until well over a year after it was released
Whatever momentum they had after the Illusion albums is long gone.......the only thing that will cause a frenzy among the general public, not just among diehards, is a killer single that appeals to the masses.
As for the diehards, there's alot less of us in 2006 than there were in 1993/94
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Quote from: Smoking Guns on February 26, 2006, 01:11:50 PM
How can there really be a frenzy over a band that most people don't even know still exists?
well of course, one thing you don't get with a lot of people here is they have been playing the same bootlegs from rio till msg over n over n over so to them it's like the band has been around forever.. Not realising that out in the real world no one has a clue who's in the band or knows anything about what axl rose is doing.. Some still tell me oh the vmas, or some album he'e supposed to release or I hear gnr is only axl now...
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As for the diehards, there's alot less of us in 2006 than there were in 1993/94
Ain't that the truth..
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Quote from: parisrocks on February 26, 2006, 01:02:53 PM
Does a falling tree in the forest make a sound if no one hears it?
Not sure, but I can hear when the sap leaks from the bark.
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Check this shit out. I've got two older brothers, 8 and 11 years older.
They both had AFD on tape, for like a year before the Sweet Child video. That's when everybody started saying that this new band Guns N' Roses really rocks! Have you heard the whole album?
And that's when I got to say I had heard it a year ago and knew all of the lyrics. So, take that.
These boards = me and my brothers, and we were here first, again.
I want motherfuckers to know it!
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Quote from: Smoking Guns on February 26, 2006, 01:11:50 PM
How can there really be a frenzy over a band that most people don't even know still exists?
Ditto.
I was talking to a friend last night, and I told him Gn'R was coming to the UK in June, and he was like "didn't they break up years ago?" "hmm... sort of"
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Quote from: MandyGnR on February 26, 2006, 01:30:53 PM
Quote from: Smoking Guns on February 26, 2006, 01:11:50 PM
How can there really be a frenzy over a band that most people don't even know still exists?
Ditto.
I was talking to a friend last night, and I told him Gn'R was coming to the UK in June, and he was like "didn't they break up years ago?" "hmm... sort of"
Same shit happened with motley crue before they did their red white n crue tour..
There are many people out there that still put gnr in as an 80's group or hairband
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February 26, 2006, 01:35:11 PM »
like A rose blooms in summer even if no one sees it.
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That's why we're not satisfied w/ the album's worth of material that trickled out.
Who are "we"? I am hell happy with the demos.
If you're here just to say "I told you so." someday, that's sad and boring.
Some of you are to be told so tho.
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Interesting thread.... I think for me in the late 90s it was much more about validation... mostly because all the pseudo-intellectual snobs who made up the alternative scene loved to sit around and have a field day at Axl's expense and anyone who was "uncool" enough to still like/believe in Guns N' Roses... but now those fvckers have practically disappeared with the genre... if GN'R were to come back and dominate... I wouldn't even know whose face to go rub it in... Nirvana is gone with Cobain's suicide, Pearl Jam hasn't made a good album in years... Creed is dead... most Limp Bizkit fans worship Axl's feet already.... NIN is not nearly the force it once was... Metallica has been humbled by their stupid law suit, that vagicil commercial.. I mean movie 'Some Kind of Monster' and that steaming pile of crap 'St. Anger'....
I might be able to collect some apologies and "you were right(s)" over at the Sludge Board... but that's about it.... if thing goes big... we'll be swept away by a tidal wave of Johnny Come Lately's and Benedict Arnolds (you know the type... the ones who had GN'R stickers on their notebooks in '92.... and Nirvana stickers in '93)....
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Quote from: MaoAxl on February 26, 2006, 04:19:49 PM
Interesting thread.... I think for me in the late 90s it was much more about validation... mostly because all the pseudo-intellectual snobs who made up the alternative scene loved to sit around and have a field day at Axl's expense and anyone who was "uncool" enough to still like/believe in Guns N' Roses... but now those fvckers have practically disappeared with the genre... if GN'R were to come back and dominate... I wouldn't even know whose face to go rub it in... Nirvana is gone with Cobain's suicide, Pearl Jam hasn't made a good album in years... Creed is dead... most Limp Bizkit fans worship Axl's feet already.... NIN is not nearly the force it once was... Metallica has been humbled by their stupid law suit, that vagicil commercial.. I mean movie 'Some Kind of Monster' and that steaming pile of crap 'St. Anger'....
I might be able to collect some apologies and "you were right(s)" over at the Sludge Board... but that's about it.... if thing goes big... we'll be swept away by a tidal wave of Johnny Come Lately's and Benedict Arnolds (you know the type... the ones who had GN'R stickers on their notebooks in '92.... and Nirvana stickers in '93)....
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February 26, 2006, 10:39:35 PM »
well for there to be some sort of validation, there needs to be an album to cause a frenzy
who knows when that will happen
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Quote from: parisrocks on February 26, 2006, 01:02:53 PM
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Does a falling tree in the forest make a sound if no one hears it?
Yeah, to the tune of the finalized new album... do you hear it...?
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I would prefer the band not to reach that ridiculous popularity of the early nineties. Way too many bandwagon fans who tended to follow whatever was popular at the time. Axl is older, the band is older, I am hoping for swift, generous sales but no where near the insanity of 92 which generated an immediate backreaction against the band.
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Quote from: The Zodiac (killingvector) on February 26, 2006, 10:50:30 PM
I would prefer the band not to reach that ridiculous popularity of the early nineties. Way too many bandwagon fans who tended to follow whatever was popular at the time. Axl is older, the band is older, I am hoping for swift, generous sales but no where near the insanity of 92 which generated an immediate backreaction against the band.
Now, that's a respectable, albeit modest, opinion.
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Quote from: MandyGnR on February 26, 2006, 01:30:53 PM
Quote from: Smoking Guns on February 26, 2006, 01:11:50 PM
How can there really be a frenzy over a band that most people don't even know still exists?
Ditto.
I was talking to a friend last night, and I told him Gn'R was coming to the UK in June, and he was like "didn't they break up years ago?" "hmm... sort of"
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