Axl's voice on these demos compared with the 2002 tour

[Axl8302]

i think he was saving his voice.

[BLS-Pride]

You dont save your voice for 3 year later..

[RKD]

You dont save your voice for 3 year later..

who said they weren't recorded in late 02 - early 03

[F*ck Fear]

IRS sounds very close to what he sounded like on the 2002 North American tour.
Better sounds like the raps he used while singing Chinese Democracy in 2002.
There Was A Time is a good mix of high pitch screams and rasp.

All in all I don't really hear the voice I hear when I listen to the old Guns records.

[Axl8302]

Axl doesn't care about his old music anymore? Come on.

BS.? I have many boots where he is giving a half-ass effort.? The Rhiad soundboard boot that was floated just recently "Hey Robin version." is a fairly lazy vocal effort.? One of the upsides a possible slash with axl live thing, is the fact that Axl elevates his live vocal level to compete with Slash!

axl dosen't have to compete with slash.
Are you sure it's a soundboard version? I guess it's only the Axl's Monitor Mix, huh?
If so, this is not the reality on how the song or Axl's voice sounds in the mix. The highs and trebles are too damn high.

Hey could I get a link for this, because I'm quite sure I have no idea what you are talking about.

[sergitou]

I thought Axl gave his all for the 2001/2002 shows.

I agree with that.... also what's the purpose to sing with the rasp and make a damage to your voice just to please fans and make the recording more difficult due to vocal problems...

[ppbebe]

I bet the leaked twat  demos are recorded before that. And I think he can use that voice anytime.

My fav is the IRS voice.
I'd say it's the pinnacle of rock vocals.
And no, I don't hear it on the 2002 boots. tell me exactly on which one.

[izzy*stradlin]

All in all I don't really hear the voice I hear when I listen to the old Guns records.

you know what?
me too

[Axl8302]

You dont save your voice for 3 year later..

saving his voice for the studio. they didn't start recording the album in 2005.

[Ax]

People have been putting forward the "Axl was saving his voice during the 2002 tour for recording" argument for years, and I don't really buy that. The reason I don't buy it is because of his performance at the MTV Awards. I know examining that performance is a dead horse subject, but I just mention it because I think Axl would have put everything he had into his first nationally televised performance in a decade, thus he would have had one night where he would have not worried about blowing out his voice during a 10 minute performance. I think the difference you hear between these demos and the 2002 tour is just a matter of the differences that come between a live performance and recording in a studio.

[jimb0]

Then Why the fuck did he re record Sweet Child O' Mine with Rhaspy Vocals?     


Yeah He should have put more effort into the MTV VMA's.  Maybe he thinks "nobody notices"

[Krispy Kreme]

After listening to the new songs Axl has proven to me that he can still sing.? I just think in 2002 he felt it wasn't worth the effort to put his best into old songs that he wasn't really feeling anymore.? Agree or disagree?? Let me know.

the helium voice  of 2002 is still annoying.

[Mr.Intensity]

His voice just isn't as good live any more... bottom line.

[damnsmooth]

I believe that his voice on the new songs live will be exceptional.  Look at how perfect he played OMG during the tour.  I sincerely believe that he just has to have his heart in it and the songs have to be relevent to him at this point in time.  Anyway I guess we will all see sooner or later (hopefully sooner).

[illusionone]

Here are my thoughts!!!

1. Axl cares about the old music, just as much as the new
2. Axl gave 100% on the tour, in regards to the shows he actually showed up to and sang at - I went to the Boston show and he rocked the Fleet Center.
3. Axl's voice and overall performance during the 2001/2002 tour (including MTV): This is only my opinion. . . . .I beleive that axl's body had changed over the 7+ years since he had done a tour.? I also think that he was somewhat out of shape and tried to do at 40 what he was doing in his 20's.?

If you noticed during every break in every song he needed to get oxygen.? It's a proven fact that singers use oxygen to help their vocals especially during concerts - they just don't dip into the well as often as he did in 2001/2002.? Here's my point - If Axl had just stood in one place insted of running around his voice would have been completly different.? But he was trying to give us a great show, and in turn stretched his vocals.? Axl was noticably out of breath during the tour.? This is not a bad thing, it's just nature - we get old and if we want to do the same things we did when we were younger, than we just need to alter the way we do them - I'm only 28, but i'm starting to notice some of the same things?

BTW:  Axl is a very talented individual - he has the capability to use many voices at will  - and I do think that he chose the higher voice in some cases and went back to the raspy when he feels he needed to.  Either way - The new voice didn't bother me at all.

[Origen]

i think he was saving his voice.

I WISH he was saving his voice but I don't think so, saving it for what ? He was on tour and expected to tour into 2003 and release the album then.


Axl sounds like frickin Mickey Mouse now 

[waxlrose1987]

I AM EXCITED LIKE EVERYONE ELSE ABOUT THE 2006 SHOWS BUT ONE MONSTER QUESTION REMAINS

WHAT ABOUT AXL'S SINGING VOICE..........ADMIT THAT IN 2002 HIS VOICE WAS SHOT......HE COULD NO LONGER TEAR THRU SONGS THAT HE USED TO, IT WAS WAY TOO HIGH PITCHED....IT WAS HIGHER THAN THE HOLLYWOOD ROSE DAYS.....I PREFER THE AXL OF 91 WHO SUNG WITH A VERY HOARSE VOICE......IF AXLS VOICE IS STILL SHOT THEN ITS OVER........HE MAY BE ABLE TO RECORD BUT FORGET TOURING ANYMORE..........MAYBE THATS WHY HE HAS BEEN IN A CAVE FOR 10 YEARS, CUZ HIS VOICE GOT THRASHED...2 AND A HALF YEARS OF TOURING ON ILLUSION 3 HOURS A NIGHT MIGHT HAVE DONE HIM IN

[--DEA--]

why are you yelling?

there are alot of old posts about this... I like his voice -91 I like his vioce... and so on