Drumming - On the new GnR songs

[michaelvincent]

listen to the fills that the drums are doing, they are your typical generic pre-programmed drum machine fills.

if there are any real drums on those demos there isn't much.

[CAFC Nick]

But as for GnR drummers go Brian is probably the worse, nothing personal to him.

No. he impressed me a lot in 2002. Listen to his drums on "nightrain" and the finish of "paradise city". He sounded huge.

In Your Opinon, not mine.

Matt Sorum, Steven Adler, Josh Freese I prefer them all, and that's my opinon, but this has nothing to do with the demos/topic so I'll not bring it up again.

And when have you heard Josh Freese play drums?

[Throatrake]

It's most likely and sounds like a DRUM MACHINE so I wouldn't worry about it?


But as for GnR drummers go Brian is probably the worse, nothing personal to him.

I feel the exact opposite. I think Brain is the best drummer GN'R ever had.
Have you heard him with any other bands?

[michaelvincent]

And when have you heard Josh Freese play drums?

He was in this band called Perfect Circle. You might have heard them once or twice on the radio.

[awhellzno05]

Do we know for sure whos even playing on these tracks?

[Butch Français]

Do we know for sure whos even playing on these tracks?

I think it's Brain. Im pretty sure I hear his signatures here and there.

[Voodoochild]

Nobody heard the awesome drums at TWAT ending? Damn... This is obviously not a drum machine...

[oldgunsfan]

in a word, weak

[Spirit]

Check out some of Brain's technical skills here: http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/Brianmantiagogobeat.html

This guy's got some skills!!! 

[mr_yoshimaroka]

Drums on the new song are Brain's AND looped tracks.
I just that Brain is keeping the drumming simple most of the time, maybe because Axl wanted it that way but, who knows.

[duga]

But as for GnR drummers go Brian is probably the worse, nothing personal to him.

No. he impressed me a lot in 2002. Listen to his drums on "nightrain" and the finish of "paradise city". He sounded huge.

In Your Opinon, not mine.

Matt Sorum, Steven Adler, Josh Freese I prefer them all, and that's my opinon, but this has nothing to do with the demos/topic so I'll not bring it up again.

And when have you heard Josh Freese play drums?

On Evanescence's 'Fallen' album.

[DeadHorse]

There's real drums all over those tracks. It's like somebody said it a mixture of a drum machine and real drumming.  It reminds me of "The Tea Party, a great Canadian band. Their drummer Jeff use to switch back and forth quite a bit, amzing drummer.

There are some really cool fills at the end of Catcher. It sounds like Josh to me, sounds kindla like some things I heard on APC. And in "Better" during the real heavy part there is some open high hat work, real high hats too.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Most of the demos are using a drum machine.

[Voodoochild]

Most of the demos are using a drum machine.

Ok, don't read posts before yours.

There's drum machine in those beats (used like a sample), but there's also real drums. The "drum machine" is used in just some little parts, mostly the slow interludes.

Anyone who thinks TWAT, Better and CITR doesn't have a real drummer ALSO should just give up - they have no use to their ears.

[D]

ITs already been said but most bands use a drum machine and bring the drummer in later to do the part.

they play with the machine to stay in time etc and to get an idea of the feel of a song.

So the drums could be completely different just like certain songs may have intro's etc once they are finished.

[Reinaldo]

After listening to Better it?s easy to tell that that?s not the machine, and like other poster have mentioned, Brain's drumming is pretty much recognizable and it?s there on those demos.
Although, personally, I really don't like him as GNR drummer. Sorum, Freese or even Psycho Adler are better.
Hopefully the record will change my opinion though... let?s see.

[Crashdiet]

HELLO!!

Listen to the illusion albums. " hat, snare, kick, hat, snare, kick.... tom tom tom."

The illusions were far from brillant in terms of drum ideas...

I will say adler had way more groove. BUTTTTTTT

the illusions had more room for other musical ideas.

This album is not going to be a drum orchestra.

axl has never adopted that idea.... but the drums will groove.

the leaks are demos. with drum machine ideas. 85 of the drums are not real.

Brain is werid but a great drummer, no need to worry about that.

[chinesedemocracy05]

The drums on these demos are definately lacking substance. Except on Catcher in The Rye and the real heavy part in better. The verse in better, could be played by someone who has taken drum lessons for 2 weeks. I think in some parts the drum machines sound awesome, but at the same time it makes me mad because if they have a kickass drummer like Brain he should be playing all the drum parts. They're just demos though and I'm assuming on democracy the drums will be louder and sharper.

[odd1]

I think Brain is the best drummer Axl has ever played with !
Matt Sourum soundes so flat and boring and Steven Adler couldnt play after a while due to his drug habbit.
Conclusion: Brain is good

[oneway23]

I remember reading a piece on Brain a few years back where he was gushing about a new electro kit that he had purchased.  I think that sound will feature prominently on the record but, that being said, drums in demos are normally present for time keeping purposes.  I've got all the confidence in the world in his abilities...Let's await the final product before we presume too much.