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« on: April 16, 2004, 12:39:00 PM »

this song is now probably my least favorite *not counting my world*

i dont know this song for me starts so bad ass and then it just loses its appeal as it goes on

whats anyone elses opinion here

the alice cooper part i can do without but the song as a whole just gets old fast for me
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2004, 12:49:02 PM »

Absolutely love it...I think it is about New York City. "trees" are the buildings and the flowers are all the trouble and shit you can get in to in NY. The video runs with this theme as well. I picture Axl walking around NY on acid! Grin
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2004, 12:57:06 PM »

Is a great song. on a garden related note i prefer Garden of Eden.

I think the garden is about being on drugs, Slash looks smacked off his tits at the beginning of the video!
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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2004, 02:22:31 PM »

Not a bad song, but made much better by Alice's sinister, 'I've been there before' vocals and a really intense solo from Slash...
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2004, 02:25:48 PM »

I think its a good song.  To me, it is nowhere near as bad as My World, Shotgun Blues, or Silk Worms.
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2004, 02:33:08 PM »

One of my favourite GN'R songs. Totally addict attitude, the music sounds like we'd have been in the 70s. Slash's solo is one of the greatest moments of the music history.
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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2004, 02:38:35 PM »

One of UYI Is best...

Slashs guitars are positively sickening...
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2004, 03:23:56 PM »

Its a song i've always had time for

Not really sure what its about though
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2004, 03:28:49 PM »

I feel pretty much the same way, D.
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2004, 06:25:39 PM »

the solo is what makes that song for me.  mind-blowing
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2004, 06:34:36 PM »

this song is now probably my least favorite *not counting my world*

i dont know this song for me starts so bad ass and then it just loses its appeal as it goes on

whats anyone elses opinion here

the alice cooper part i can do without but the song as a whole just gets old fast for me

I agree. I rarely ever listen to the song, i just do not like it at all excpet for Slash's nice guitar work. So much filler on UYI 1 it seems.
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« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2004, 06:54:12 PM »

waw from the first time I heard that song I though it was about being on drugs, when I read the lyrics well and listened close to the music and the way it changes and the effects they put into it I only got more convinced how it was about drugs...this is the first time I actually have doubts about it...damn you rant
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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2004, 08:29:53 PM »

yeh i always thought it was about a acid trip or something what with the "but only smart boys do without" etc.
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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2004, 08:32:46 PM »

Im not a big fan but years on I may like it, like I do some other songs now that I never liked before.
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« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2004, 08:55:16 PM »

yeh i always thought it was about a acid trip or something what with the "but only smart boys do without" etc.


"Axl sang a part in 'The Garden,' and it sounded exactly like Alice Cooper," recalls Slash. "I mean, it sounded exactly like Alice. So we were like, 'Let's get Alice to do it,' you know, rather than just steal his style. So Alice came down and sang it. It was cool."

A hallucinatory experience penned by Axl and West Arkeen, "The Garden" features a breathtakingly eerie vocal passage where Alice, in vintage Coop spoken-word style, delivers lyrics written by RIP's Del James. When the track was finished, Axl called the office and played the song for Del over the speaker phone in his office. "Listen, man," he said. "Alice Cooper singing your lyrics." Mr. James was speechless the rest of the afternoon.

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« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2004, 09:09:14 PM »

oh yeah! i heard the demo of the garden and axl does sound identical to alice.either way good vocals on the track
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« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2004, 10:08:33 PM »

Alice Cooper: I was in LA, staying at the Sunset Marquis. I was watching an old movie when Axl called me. It was about two in the morning and he says, 'Hey, listen, can you do the vocal on this song 'The Garden'? I went down there and I listened to it and said, 'Yeah, I'll do it.' So we do it but when Axl sings, you can't stay with him. I'm sitting there and
I'm trying to do a duet with him and I said, 'Listen guys, this is my range. I end right here.' He was two octaves
ahead of me and I'm going, 'Okay, okay. You do the real high parts and I'll stay down here.' When you're in the
studio, a one-on-one with him, it's really amazing. When he's on the other mike, you're like, 'Jeez this guy can
really sing.' Axl was a definite perfectionist . Almost to the point where you wanted to say, 'At some point, Axl,
it's gonna be good enough.' With 'The Garden,' it was an easy bit for me to do. I did my bit maybe three times but
when Axl was doing his vocals, he treated it very intricately. Rock and roll isn't supposed to be perfect. I'm afraid
of it sounding too perfect. I mean, Bob Ezrin recorded Pink Floyd's The Wall three times. They probably did it like
six times before they put it out. You never know if a person is not happy with it or if they're afraid of the
material. The Beatles must listen back to Sgt. Pepper and go, 'Oh, man, why didn't we do this?' As an artist, you
gotta know when the painting is done.

Slash: I came up with the solo that day in the studio, so there wasn't much practicing involved. I had the basic idea, improvised it, and did it a couple of times. I played it overhand. This solo is particularly focused, in terms of where your energy is. I thought of Jeff Beck. That's cool. I like Jeff Beck

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« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2004, 10:15:01 PM »

Slash: This solo is particularly focused, in terms of where your energy is. I thought of Jeff Beck. That's cool. I like Jeff Beck

Listening to Beck is really trippy, just like this song  Cheesy

But... c'mon Axl/Muffin man,  the painting's done already, right?  
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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2004, 01:18:33 AM »


Slash: I came up with the solo that day in the studio, so there wasn't much practicing involved. I had the basic idea, improvised it, and did it a couple of times. I played it overhand. This solo is particularly focused, in terms of where your energy is. I thought of Jeff Beck. That's cool. I like Jeff Beck

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he played it overhand?.........is that what i think it means?............almost lap steal style?
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« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2004, 06:49:03 AM »

I agree, one of GnR's weakest songs.
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