would the new songs be better recieved if they were not Gnr? (twat and irs)

[dave-gnfnr2k]

IRS got a lot of postive and some negative on WAAF in boston while most people panned TWAT saying how it sucked. I wonder if IRS was sung by another band like U2, cold play or someone like that if it would be better recieved.  Just take the first NIN single, the new David Gilmore single or even the U2 single out right now, I t hink TWAT is better than all of them and I wonder if IRS was sang by another band if more people would like it and not bash it. I just think some people want or expect another AFD by axl

[tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr]

I think a lot of people in the States have this stupid grudge against Axl. So he could release the best album ever created, and people would still say it sucks. I think most people realise its good, but once they know its Axl, then they say it sucks automatically. They dont give him a fair shake. It sucks cause these new songs are really really really good. Also, I think it has to do with the DJs, they dont do anything to help it. Who knows, maybe it will change when the record comes out.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Well I agree the DJs only play the bad remarks, because the DJ said to one caller who hated the song and said they should not play it anymore, the DJ replied well I would if tons of people were not requesting it. So people like the songs they just dont call in to say how great it is they just call in to say play it again.

[tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr]

Yeah I called in and made it know that the new songs were killer, but of course they dont say how the songs got good responses. Well, at least we know the songs got a lot of requests to get replayed, and thats a good sign.

[Mr.Intensity]

See my thread Dave... I did a little experiment where I just posted lyrics to TWAT in an art/music forum and everyone was like that is bad ass....

I then posted a link to the song and said "guess who?"

Then some people were floored it was the new gnr and admitted they hate Axl, but the track is still good.

[The Dog]

I think a lot of people in the States have this stupid grudge against Axl. So he could release the best album ever created, and people would still say it sucks. I think most people realise its good, but once they know its Axl, then they say it sucks automatically. They dont give him a fair shake. It sucks cause these new songs are really really really good. Also, I think it has to do with the DJs, they dont do anything to help it. Who knows, maybe it will change when the record comes out.

If the music is REALLY good and people are saying negative things only b/c its Axl, that will change with time.  If something is truly truly good, most people can't help but like it after time.  you might HATE keanu reeves...but the first matrix was still a great movie.  Works the reverse way too....you might like something JUST BECAUSE its your fave actor/singer, but after time, you realize it kinda sucks (I hope thats not the case with all the positive feedback on the leaks with members of this message board!!  )

[Mr.Intensity]

I listen to the new stuff without Bias... I will not compare it to old gnr... this is a new venture, and has to be listened to accordingly. What I hear I like, it's new, it's still has axl's voice, and the lyrical content is still good. I am a fan of the new guns n roses.

I am also still a fan of the old band. If I am forced to compare the two I will admit I like the older material more, but luckily I don't have to choose between the two. 

[dave-gnfnr2k]

TWAT took me a few listens to really get into but after that I was hooked. I think it takes a few spins to let it sink in.

[tHeElEcTrIcSiNtAr]

Yeah definately. Theres just too much going on in TWAT to absorb it all in one listen. Its such a great song though, once you realise what you are hearing, people just need to give it a chance, not listen once and say it sucks. I love it, its right up there as my favorite new song with Better.

[Naupis]

People would probably receive the songs even better if the songs were sung by an Axl Rose solo band or new band that wasn't called GNR.

He has created a great deal of resentment towards himself by insisting to carry on with the name even though the rest of the original band is gone. Many people in the general public will never accept his incarnation as Guns N' Roses, so the quality of the music will be irrelevant.

He knew full well he was going to put himself in this position by going down the path he did, so it's not like there should be any shock people haven't unanimously accepted the new songs.

The big misnomer on this board is that the Media and the General public hate Axl. That is not the case at all. The Media and the General Public in large numbers do hate/criticize him passing off this project as a GNR album with him being the only original member.

[jameslofton29]

Yes I think so, Dave. Axl has one major problem. People know he is a genius, and people have HIGH expectations for anything associated with him. The low quality of these demos will bring negative reactions, and is a reason why they shouldnt be getting airplay. Its not a true reflection of what the album will be.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

People would probably receive the songs even better if the songs were sung by an Axl Rose solo band or new band that wasn't called GNR.

He has created a great deal of resentment towards himself by insisting to carry on with the name even though the rest of the original band is gone. Many people in the general public will never accept his incarnation as Guns N' Roses, so the quality of the music will be irrelevant.

He knew full well he was going to put himself in this position by going down the path he did, so it's not like there should be any shock people haven't unanimously accepted the new songs.

The big misnomer on this board is that the Media and the General public hate Axl. That is not the case at all. The Media and the General Public in large numbers do hate/criticize him passing off this project as a GNR album with him being the only original member.

It could be call Axl solo and they will still bash him because he is axl. A lot of people dont like his voice.

[Naupis]

It could be call Axl solo and they will still bash him because he is axl.

If you read much of the criticism he has received since the new incarnation of his band took off, more of it has centered on the Name issue than it has the quality of the music or his ability to make it.

People on this board have a built in "the world hates Axl" mantra they resort to because it is incomprehensible to some that not everyone thinks everything he touches turns to gold. GNR message boards have created the world hates Axl message more than the media has.

[Luigi]

I really like TWAT alot, AND THE SONG. But really TWAT, IRS and Better are great songs. I could really care less what other people think.