The new line-up using the GN'R name

[D]

i know some of u may pass out reading this from shock

but u know since VR have came out, and since slash and duff have not really said to many hateful things about axl, and now that i love the contraband cd and see slash and duff being successful again

i truly remembered that i was a Guns N Roses fan not just an Axl Rose fan

its easy to forget because slash and duff did nothing b4 VR so i sorta forgot how cool and shit they are

since ive read tons of interviews and love the cd
maybe axl should retire the GNR name

VR are gonna have a number one record with a new band name and i think Axl would be just as successful without the name as with it

but honestly ive been thinking and u know i love the new gnr, i love them a whole lot but its not Guns N Roses

when i watch the 2002 tour boots axl is great but something is just missing and its quite obvious what it is

i know people will bitch and say how axl didnt quit so why should he give up guns n roses, fuck ive said it myself about 200 times,*so no one dig up a post of me sayin that cause i admit it here*

im not a hypocrite, maybe i am but in the long run i think axl keeping the name may actually hurt him more than help, it will help at first for name recognition etc but axl rose is as famous a name as guns n roses

he dont need it and i think would get a whole lot less flack if he just retired it for good

let gnr be gnr move on and do something else great and exciting

[matt88]

D you said that brilliantly, i'm with that 100%

[SLCPUNK]

Sometimes I think that same thing.

Sometimes I don't.

It's tough because Axl hasn't released anything.

Word association with the general public....GnR = Axl Rose. Just on that alone the guy is not going to let go of the name.

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[John Daniels]

yeah this question has wondered us for many times, at least me it has..I have always had this thought that Axl shouldn't have taken G'NR name. I don't know..it just doesn't feel right for the other guys, then again I love The G'NR name and I want to see Axl succeed in what his doing (under the name GNR)






I think this Duff interview (quotes) gives some kind of aspect to this situation:


KNAC.COM: If they were playing today, would you go see them?

McKAGAN: Well... [Pauses]... Noooo... I doubt it. No. I - I just, you know, really... especially once after I left and started going to school, I really put it all behind me. I haven't really thought about it at all until I started doing all this press and been asked about it. So, it's been kinda put in front of me. And, you know, I have a healthy past with Axl [Rose]. But Guns 'N Roses was Guns 'N Roses when it was Guns 'N Roses. If that makes any sense to you -- does that make any sense to you?


KNAC.COM: That makes a lot of sense to me.

McKAGAN: Okay...and now, it's -- from what I understand -- it's... an ever-evolving line-up. And... it's, you know, it's Axl's... he owns the name.


KNAC.COM: Oh, yeah?

McKAGAN: Yeah. And that's... that's where you get the Guns 'N Roses thing. And that's about... that's kinda where it stops, too. You know? For me, at least. I wouldn't go see it, myself. I hold nothing against Axl, it's just... I have no interest in seeing it. You know? If you can't do a record in a year or so...


KNAC.COM: [Laughs]

McKAGAN: ...you're working too hard on something, or something's not there. Something's missing. Unless, you know... watch it be just amazing. It should be after 9 years or something. It damn well better be!

[axl_rose_700]

i know some of u may pass out reading this from shock

but u know since VR have came out, and since slash and duff have not really said to many hateful things about axl, and now that i love the contraband cd and see slash and duff being successful again

i truly remembered that i was a Guns N Roses fan not just an Axl Rose fan

its easy to forget because slash and duff did nothing b4 VR so i sorta forgot how cool and shit they are

since ive read tons of interviews and love the cd
maybe axl should retire the GNR name

VR are gonna have a number one record with a new band name and i think Axl would be just as successful without the name as with it

but honestly ive been thinking and u know i love the new gnr, i love them a whole lot but its not Guns N Roses

when i watch the 2002 tour boots axl is great but something is just missing and its quite obvious what it is

i know people will bitch and say how axl didnt quit so why should he give up guns n roses, fuck ive said it myself about 200 times,*so no one dig up a post of me sayin that cause i admit it here*

im not a hypocrite, maybe i am but in the long run i think axl keeping the name may actually hurt him more than help, it will help at first for name recognition etc but axl rose is as famous a name as guns n roses

he dont need it and i think would get a whole lot less flack if he just retired it for good

let gnr be gnr move on and do something else great and exciting

I share your thoughts there, I've thought this for a good few months now, Axl's new band may well be superb but it's not GnR!

[Izzy]

 

Axl is GNR he always was, always will be

He should keep the name - the others quit - why should he change the name because of they walked out?

I don't want GNR to die - GNR with 1 original member is better than no GNR at all

I want a new Guns N' Roses album - i don't care who's in it

[D]

this just gives a cop out to VR fans if axl does release CD and it destroys VR on the charts and sales wise

they can always say "the GNR name recognition is why they outsold VR"

ive championed axl keeping the name for the same reasons izzy said but like i said i honestly forgot how much the other band members contributed in GNR being my fav band ever


this isnt a sports team its a rock band

magic,kareem and james worthy were the lakers in the 80's and won 5 NBA titles, shaq and kobe are the lakers in the present and they've won 3 titles, its still the lakers

i dont think u can do that with a band

the new GNR songs are excellent lyrically,melodically and just emotional but to me the music is mediocre maybe average *what we've heard*

VR the music is fuckin incredible the vocals are good the lyrics are average


i remember popping rock in rio 3 in for the first time and seeing GNR with the new lineup and i watched 3 songs and turned it off, i was mortified!

my blind alliegance to axl made me accept this as GNR

but i cant live that lie anymore, this isnt Guns N Roses

i watched chicago 92 and just how slash ran and jumped off shit while soloing and u never heard anyone say "axl leaves the stage during guitar solo's" cause like i said in a thread on the VR section slash is a frontman guitarist

when axl left the stage u didnt notice cause slash kept your attention and entertained u

now when axl left u almost want to fast forward it till he gets back onstage

[norway]

Axl was the identity of the band soundwise
Duff, slash were just cartoonfigures of the band.

Huh...?

No gnr whitout axl, i say he is first priority in staying in the name

[Butch Français]

this just gives a cop out to VR fans if axl does release CD and it destroys VR on the charts and sales wise

they can always say "the GNR name recognition is why they outsold VR"

ive championed axl keeping the name for the same reasons izzy said but like i said i honestly forgot how much the other band members contributed in GNR being my fav band ever


this isnt a sports team its a rock band

magic,kareem and james worthy were the lakers in the 80's and won 5 NBA titles, shaq and kobe are the lakers in the present and they've won 3 titles, its still the lakers

i dont think u can do that with a band

the new GNR songs are excellent lyrically,melodically and just emotional but to me the music is mediocre maybe average *what we've heard*

VR the music is fuckin incredible the vocals are good the lyrics are average


i remember popping rock in rio 3 in for the first time and seeing GNR with the new lineup and i watched 3 songs and turned it off, i was mortified!

my blind alliegance to axl made me accept this as GNR

but i cant live that lie anymore, this isnt Guns N Roses

i watched chicago 92 and just how slash ran and jumped off shit while soloing and u never heard anyone say "axl leaves the stage during guitar solo's" cause like i said in a thread on the VR section slash is a frontman guitarist

when axl left the stage u didnt notice cause slash kept your attention and entertained u

now when axl left u almost want to fast forward it till he gets back onstage

about time you came around to realise that Axl isn't GN'R! Ive always found it weird that you had the opinion that he is GN'R, cos you seem like a very reasonable dude!
anyways, good thing you've opened your eyes!

whatever Axl releases, under the GN'R name or whatever, will be worth checking out, but it won't be GN'R unless certain other guys are playing on it as well!

[journey]

I don't think Axl should retire the GNR name. The original members had irreconcilable differences. According to interviews that Axl had done, the other members wanted to keep the style of their music the same, but he (Axl) wanted to go in a different direction, musically. So, therefore, no common ground was stepped upon, so they remain divided.  

Another point, the GNR name is a legacy. Just like other remaining band members from other bands that chose to keep the name, such as Lynyrd Skynyrd. Although many of the members of Lynyrd Skynyrd are no longer living, the remaining few have kept the name, so that the legacy can continue on.

Also, it could be said that GNR is part of Axl's identity. For instance, a woman is married to a man for twenty years and then they get divorced. She decides to keep his last name, not because she's in denial or still wants to be his wife, it's because she's had that name for twenty years, so it's part of who she is.

[Dizzy]

Axl is GNR he always was, always will be

Blasphemy.

I don't want GNR to die

No matter how ill and crippled it is, you don't want it out of its misery, eh?  

GNR with 1 original member is better than no GNR at all

More blasphemy.

I bet if it were Slash, Izzy, Duff, or Steven using the name alone, you'd change your tune.  Hell, I bet that GNR with four original members - Slash, Duff, Izzy, and Steven were all together using the GNR name without Axl, you'd wouldn't be saying it's better than nothing at all.

I want a new Guns N' Roses album - i don't care who's in it

Really?  So if Axl hired N'Sync to be Guns N Roses with him, you wouldn't care?  Christ, have a little more respect for the GNR name than that.  Because you've thoroughly blasphemed the GNR name in this post.

[SlashFan]

Axl is GNR he always was, always will be

Blasphemy.

I don't want GNR to die - GNR with 1 original member is better than no GNR at all

Blasphemy.  I bet if it were Slash, Izzy, Duff, or Steven using the name alone, you'd change your tune.

I want a new Guns N' Roses album - i don't care who's in it

Really?  So if Axl hired N'Sync to be Guns N Roses with him, you wouldn't care?  Christ, have a little more respect for the GNR name than that.

You made a very good point

[D]

I don't think Axl should retire the GNR name. The original members had irreconcilable differences. According to interviews that Axl had done, the other members wanted to keep the style of their music the same, but he (Axl) wanted to go in a different direction, musically. So, therefore, no common ground was stepped upon, so they remain divided.  

Another point, the GNR name is a legacy. Just like other remaining band members from other bands that chose to keep the name, such as Lynyrd Skynyrd. Although many of the members of Lynyrd Skynyrd are no longer living, the remaining few have kept the name, so that the legacy can continue on.

Also, it could be said that GNR is part of Axl's identity. For instance, a woman is married to a man for twenty years and then they get divorced. She decides to keep his last name, not because she's in denial or still wants to be his wife, it's because she's had that name for twenty years, so it's part of who she is.

interesting point

i didnt really think about it that way, that is a whole new way to look at it that no one else has really mentioned

i just think it will end up hurting axl more than helping, i think it will serve as a backlash, thats the main reason i have against him using it

[tomass74]

Get rid of the damn name. That is the only way Axl will regain some of the respect he has lost. I can't speak for anyone else but there is no way in hell I am buying this album as long as it is released as a GnR album..

[D]

Get rid of the damn name. That is the only way Axl will regain some of the respect he has lost. I can't speak for anyone else but there is no way in hell I am buying this album as long as it is released as a GnR album..

dude ive waited and anticipated so long theres no way im not buying this album!

[hynzie]

you could not be more correct GNR with just Axl IS NOT GNR!

[Dayle1066]

This new GN'R isnt GN'R. Thats a fact, for it to be GN'R it needs Axl, Slash, Duff and Izzy. Without these 4 it is a different band. You cant have the real GN'R without 1 of those members. Axl wont disapoint us with CD but at the same time its not GNR that I or a lot of people love. The point Im trying to make is he should drop the name, hell it doesnt mean he has to stop playing GN'R tracks or change n e thing that he is doing now, just that name. How did he get rights to the name in the first place might I add

[Skeletor]

Axl is GNR he always was, always will be

Blasphemy.

Nah, your opinion sucks and you are wrong.

GNR with 1 original member is better than no GNR at all

I bet if it were Slash, Izzy, Duff, or Steven using the name alone, you'd change your tune.  Hell, I bet that GNR with four original members - Slash, Duff, Izzy, and Steven were all together using the GNR name without Axl, you'd wouldn't be saying it's better than nothing at all.

I won't be speaking for Izzy here, but as for my view: hell yes, Axl alone is better than the rest combined. Not to undermine the contributions of Slash and Izzy, but Axl is the one and only soul of Guns N' Roses. Compare Kurt/Nirvana.

[Kampsch]

Axl his solo project is Guns n'Roses, so way retire the name?

[chineseilusions]

I think if the original singer isstill in the band then the name should stay.The general public idenifies a band by it's lad singer in most cases.D I can see where youare coming from with your point abnd is so much more than members it's an attitude thing an rite now this band is not Guns N' Roses but before I decide if axl shoul retire the name or not I am going to wait for the album to see i the new music posseses the attitude