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« on: February 20, 2006, 06:20:26 AM »
The band had 8 guys when they recorded these songs. Where are they? Unfortunately I don't hear why they had 3 guitarists, 2 keyboard players (and arrangements from Beltrami etc.) So the question is: who hears 8 guys in these songs?

(This topic is not about liking or disliking this song or that)
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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2006, 06:23:48 AM »
Quote from: Mikkamakka on February 20, 2006, 06:20:26 AM
The band had 8 guys when they recorded these songs. Where are they? Unfortunately I don't hear why they had 3 guitarists, 2 keyboard players (and arrangements from Beltrami etc.) So the question is: who hears 8 guys in these songs?

(This topic is not about liking or disliking this song or that)

there doesn't need to be 8 guys at every song wouldn't you agree? there's your answer kinda.
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2006, 06:26:00 AM »
So it's like a theater? Guys come in when they have their lines?
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2006, 06:29:43 AM »
You expect to hear three guitar players soloing on each track?


Dizzy was in the band when they recorded Use Your Illusion I and II, yet he's not featured on every track.




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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2006, 06:33:56 AM »
Quote from: Mikkamakka on February 20, 2006, 06:26:00 AM
So it's like a theater? Guys come in when they have their lines?

yes.  Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2006, 06:38:04 AM »
Quote from: jarmo on February 20, 2006, 06:29:43 AM
You expect to hear three guitar players soloing on each track?


Dizzy was in the band when they recorded Use Your Illusion I and II, yet he's not featured on every track.




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I don't expect them playing solo, but there aren't too much guitar playing in the songs at all.

BTW I don't miss Dizzy in any UYI track Tongue

I just don't understand why have 3 guitarist and 2 keyboard players when you don't need them. You can't find the mentioned 'powerful guitar playing' neither in these tracks nor in the other ones (Madagascar, Blues, Riyadh, Silkworms, CD) ?
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2006, 06:40:18 AM »
We don't even know if there were three guitar players when these songs were recorded....




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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2006, 06:44:55 AM »
You don't here Pittman 'cause he was told to go out and buy everyone coffee.

Sorry, had to.
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2006, 06:45:32 AM »
Quote from: Mikkamakka on February 20, 2006, 06:38:04 AM
You can't find the mentioned 'powerful guitar playing' neither in these tracks nor in the other ones (Madagascar, Blues, Riyadh, Silkworms, CD) ?
I see what you're saying in your post, and pretty much agree with it. But there is superb guitars on The Blues, and even though I dont like Riyadh much, the music is pretty fucking good, and the band suffers from no weakness on that song. It does seem like a few people didnt show up to the studio to record these latest demos. hihi



Jarmo, davegnr2k made a good point about the shorter TWAT. It has no BH solo, so was likely recorded before he joined, and that would mean no Fortus either. So on that song, it would be Finck and Huge.
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2006, 06:47:40 AM »
Quote from: jarmo on February 20, 2006, 06:40:18 AM
We don't even know if there were three guitar players when these songs were recorded....




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I think they had 3 players. BH and Robin plays on these tracks and when they both were in, they had 3 players.

BTW I can hardly hear 2 guitars at the same time...
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2006, 06:48:38 AM »
Quote from: Mikkamakka on February 20, 2006, 06:47:40 AM
Quote from: jarmo on February 20, 2006, 06:40:18 AM
We don't even know if there were three guitar players when these songs were recorded....




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I think they had 3 players. BH and Robin plays on these tracks and when they both were in, they had 3 players.

BTW I can hardly hear 2 guitars at the same time...

thats cause it's demo.  Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2006, 07:06:40 AM »
Quote from: Mikkamakka on February 20, 2006, 06:38:04 AM
Quote from: jarmo on February 20, 2006, 06:29:43 AM
You expect to hear three guitar players soloing on each track?


Dizzy was in the band when they recorded Use Your Illusion I and II, yet he's not featured on every track.




/jarmo

I don't expect them playing solo, but there aren't too much guitar playing in the songs at all.

BTW I don't miss Dizzy in any UYI track Tongue

I just don't understand why have 3 guitarist and 2 keyboard players when you don't need them. You can't find the mentioned 'powerful guitar playing' neither in these tracks nor in the other ones (Madagascar, Blues, Riyadh, Silkworms, CD) 

they're all there 4 a reason dude, not 4 show!!
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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2006, 10:28:03 AM »
Quote from: Mikkamakka on February 20, 2006, 06:47:40 AM
Quote from: jarmo on February 20, 2006, 06:40:18 AM
We don't even know if there were three guitar players when these songs were recorded....




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I think they had 3 players. BH and Robin plays on these tracks and when they both were in, they had 3 players.

BTW I can hardly hear 2 guitars at the same time...

After listening to TWAT I don't agree with you... Definitely there are 3 guitars there along with all other players (even strings), except for the bass, which I can?t hear in any of the new demos.
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2006, 10:30:32 AM »
Quote from: Reinaldo on February 20, 2006, 10:28:03 AM
Quote from: Mikkamakka on February 20, 2006, 06:47:40 AM
Quote from: jarmo on February 20, 2006, 06:40:18 AM
We don't even know if there were three guitar players when these songs were recorded....




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I think they had 3 players. BH and Robin plays on these tracks and when they both were in, they had 3 players.

BTW I can hardly hear 2 guitars at the same time...

After listening to TWAT I don't agree with you... Definitely there are 3 guitars there along with all other players (even strings), except for the bass, which I can?t hear in any of the new demos.

I agree ok but the drums are def a machine and the orchestra is just simple computer stuff in the back.

This shit is gonna sound wayyy different on the album, hell we may not even recognize the songs when the album is released
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2006, 10:38:32 AM »
A famous three guitar band was Lynyrd Skynyrd.  On there stuff you here three guitars pretty much all the time.  They were awesome on how they incorporated everyone into the song.  They had a keyboard player to that was very involved.  These guys are no Lynyrd Skynrd as far as a triple guitar threat goes.  But they are still great songs. 
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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2006, 01:13:44 PM »
Quote from: McCallum930 on February 20, 2006, 06:44:55 AM
You don't here Pittman 'cause he was told to go out and buy everyone coffee.

Sorry, had to.

 rofl rofl rofl

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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2006, 01:29:12 PM »
Quote from: McCallum930 on February 20, 2006, 06:44:55 AM
You don't here Pittman 'cause he was told to go out and buy everyone coffee.

Sorry, had to.

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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2006, 02:32:39 PM »
i heard these songs are rumoured to be demos.... ok
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