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« on: February 19, 2006, 08:40:03 PM »

are the songs missing some drumming..? I'm not knocking or bashing just asking your opinion.... Seems like the sound of the drums pounding just isn't there.. I have listene dto each song many times and that is something I persoanlly noticed...
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2006, 08:40:47 PM »

idk... i didnt pay attention to the drumming...
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2006, 08:41:21 PM »

i think you're right but it is just demos. thats something that probaly gets done in final mixing
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2006, 08:41:59 PM »

idk... i didnt pay attention to the drumming...

I wasn't either I am just listening closely to get eevrything..  Sound so distant, not the pounding I am use to
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2006, 08:49:04 PM »

idk... i didnt pay attention to the drumming...

I wasn't either I am just listening closely to get eevrything..? Sound so distant, not the pounding I am use to

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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2006, 08:50:46 PM »

Yo, the UYI demos were similar in that regard if I'm not mistaken.  No worries here, we'll hear Brain.   Wink
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2006, 08:54:04 PM »

That shows you how old these demos are. The drums are almost non existant on IRS-which is a great song for some skin pounding-alot of drum machine stuff on these tracks.
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2006, 08:57:13 PM »

Yeah, something is definitely missing.  Surely it wont be like that on the final album. But its always possible. Remember how Jason Newsted's bass was basically non existent on Justice? Hopefully the same thing dont happen to Brain.
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2006, 09:29:08 PM »

This isn't anything to worry about. Its only a demo...

Last time I checked.. almost all of the old GNR demos had drum machines.

And.. (im not sure.. but it was this way with the way my friend got his album recorded)... aren't most studio scratches with drum machines anyways? I think drums are usually put in near last. Is this true...?

Either way im not worried
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2006, 10:15:10 PM »

I don't think they are drums machines. I mean, in TWAT they are way more noticeble.

But the mix is poor on the demos, so I guess that's why the drums are hard to listen.
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2006, 10:21:53 PM »

scary idea: these aren't demo's....these aren't mastered....they're just what axl has.

you think we got these leaks, at this sound quality, only to have the real deal mastered, fat sounding CD released next month?Huh? no way. i think this might be all axl has....demos of songs....nothing finished in his mind....

scary idea 2: what if axl's like "i dont even want brain here, lets use drum machines for now", and brain hasn't heard these songs much...he kinda seems like a di-k anyway, so maybe axl wouldn't want him around...b/c why would these "leaks" have mostly drum machines? i mean, these demo's dont sound like live drums.....producers can MAKE fake drums sound real.


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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2006, 10:25:27 PM »

are the songs missing some drumming..? I'm not knocking or bashing just asking your opinion.... Seems like the sound of the drums pounding just isn't there.. I have listene dto each song many times and that is something I persoanlly noticed...

I was of the opinion it's a drum machine... I don't see a lot of variance between beats... there's no heavy hitting anywhere for lack of a better phrase... just steady, basic stuff throughout. I'm referring mostly to IRS/TWAT since we're missing parts of better, but... I do hope to see some better stuff on final cuts cuz I'm sure Brain is capable of some good shit.
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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2006, 10:37:31 PM »

The drums sound electronic
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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2006, 10:51:06 PM »

In this interview from 99 axl said, "It's a very diverse record. There's a lot of hip-hop beats, there's straight-ahead rock. But if someone says, "Hip-hop beats," what do you mean by that? Well, Radiohead uses beats that are similar to hip-hop beats. There's actual, "official" hip-hop beats and then there's "Radiohead-style" hip-hop beats, there's rock beats".

He is going to use drum machines on the record, along with live drums. That's what he wants. I think its cool. In that same interview he spoke that the recording process was diferent also. Saying how there would be less reverb, and double bass pedals, cause that was more 80's. SO get used to the new sound guys.
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« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2006, 10:52:05 PM »

i rather hear elecontronic drums mixed with live drums any day....i based my old band on just that formula back in 99
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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2006, 11:28:43 PM »

I don't like the drums.  I like the way Sorum's drums sound on Contraband.  I am not comparing, just giving my opinion.
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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2006, 12:18:17 AM »

are the songs missing some drumming..? I'm not knocking or bashing just asking your opinion.... Seems like the sound of the drums pounding just isn't there.. I have listene dto each song many times and that is something I persoanlly noticed...
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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2006, 12:24:16 AM »

To me it sounds like drum machine mixed with drums,I dunno,the songs still sound cool to me ok
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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2006, 12:49:21 AM »

To me it sounds like drum machine mixed with drums,I dunno,the songs still sound cool to me ok

I think so yeah. The drumming is pretty standard drum machine fare until the songs pick up. Then Brain lets loose a bit more.
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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2006, 12:50:26 AM »

Hence the Hip style.. Hints at it. Or not but that would be cool. But if anyone could use "hip hop beats" in a song it I like it.. Its that mother fucker.. So it's ok. I guess.
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