Scott Weiland VS Sebastian Bach

[head-off elephant]

As Seb was in the running for the job, would VR have been better or worse with bach up front 

*discuss*

[metallex78]

I think if they made a straight-up aggresive hard rock record in the vein of GN'R's and Skid Row's heavier tunes, or even like Trouble on Duff's Believe In Me album, I think that Baz would've made a perfect fit with the band.

And with Baz's pipes they could've easily been belting out other GN'R classics apart from Brownstone and Its So Easy. Whereas Scott kinda limits them there.
For example, has anyone heard Bach singing Paradise City with Camp Freddy? I think he even gives Axl a run for his money there!

[head-off elephant]

Ive seen bach twice in the last 12 months, and boy does he still rock.

[Communist China]

I don't want a Guns N' Roses - Axl + Bach, I want something new. Bach would've given them a cover band persona whereas Scott takes them in a new direction.

[metallex78]

To me, Scott made them more of an alternative rock band, which is not necessarily a bad thing, and Baz would've taken them down a more hair-metal path.

I still think Baz would've made a great VR frontman, it just would've been different.

[tomass74]

Bach is cool and all but it would have been a complete joke to have him frontthis band.. Scott is kicking ass and taking names........

[W. Botaxl Rose]

I've never understood why us fans can't have both. VR is great & it's cool to have my GNR guys still making new, interesting music. But, I don't understand why they can't hook up with Bach once in awhile & play GNR show. Not like whole tours or anything, but just a festival or a show at some LA club or something. That would rule, as Bach kind of is the standard for hard rock vocalists, just don't let him write the songs. 

[Genesis]

I like Scott better than Bach.

[badapple81]

To me, Scott made them more of an alternative rock band, which is not necessarily a bad thing, and Baz would've taken them down a more hair-metal path.

I still think Baz would've made a great VR frontman, it just would've been different.

Yes I agree both of them would have taken the music in totally different directions.

I prefer Bach to Scott personally. It would have been interesting to hear how the music sounded should Bach have joined. I am only a fan of a few VR tracks, generally the faster temp killer riff songs like Sucker Train Blues, Do It For The Kids and Dirty Little Thing. I hear Scott's influence in songs like Spectacle, Superhuman, Illegal i Song etc. and am not really a fan. In saying that, I think those songs are still a bar above most stuff the Stone Temple Pilots did. VR is an interesting morph between the Slash, Duff & Matt and then Scott's influences.

[GNR - CROATIA]

I was never Scott's greatest fan,  yet, I'd take Scott over Bach any time.
Bach is kinda  like Adler in a way.
Apparently,   he likes to party and have sex with teens after shows and I don't think they wanted that.
After all, he is their friend and there has to be a reason they didn't take him.
I think they were looking for someone more mature who could writte songs about something serious.
Remember,   non of our trio wasn't in the band before with crappy lyrics and I doubt they wanted that now.
Plus,   now after a year and a half,  I can say that CONTRABAND grew on me.
After first 6 months,  I kinda like it

[The Dog]

I think Bach, Skid Row and most "hair metal" bands are looked upon as jokes by most people.  Only a few bands got out of that era with a halfway decent rep (GNR of course, maybe Crue?).  I think it would have been a big mistake for them to go in that direction.  Its like when I see ads promoting a Warrant, Ratt, Cinderella tour...it just makes me laugh my ass off.

I hate to think Slash and Duff would do this, but I really believe it was more of a marketing decision then a music decision.  They looked at Audio Slave and saw a bunch of talented musicians with a well known singer from a pretty popular band (when they were big at least) and the success they had and said "lets do the same".  Sadly, Audioslave is MUCH better then VR.

THEY SHOULD HAVE GONE WITH JOSH TODD!!!

[Communist China]

I don't think you could've realistically wanted much better than Scott and Contraband. Scott seemed to capture instant respect from the band, something Bach probably didn't. Contraband may not stand up to 70s-80s rock like Aerosmith, Van Halen, Crue, GN'R, but compared to today it's unusually solid.

[GNR - CROATIA]

I think Bach, Skid Row and most "hair metal" bands are looked upon as jokes by most people.? Only a few bands got out of that era with a halfway decent rep (GNR of course, maybe Crue?).? I think it would have been a big mistake for them to go in that direction.? Its like when I see ads promoting a Warrant, Ratt, Cinderella tour...it just makes me laugh my ass off.

I hate to think Slash and Duff would do this, but I really believe it was more of a marketing decision then a music decision.? They looked at Audio Slave and saw a bunch of talented musicians with a well known singer from a pretty popular band (when they were big at least) and the success they had and said "lets do the same".? Sadly, Audioslave is MUCH better then VR.

THEY SHOULD HAVE GONE WITH JOSH TODD!!!

Well actually,  there was an discussion here before when someone mentioned Motleys being huge like GNR...
Not that it matters,  though,  the person who said that Motleys were unheard of outside USA was very right.
Sure people heard the name,  though,  songs and videos got very little to non airplay in Europe.
Tommy Lee got far more attention due to escapades with Pamela Anderson and H.  Locklear...
Biggest US bands in Europe in the 90's were GNR,  Nirvana,  Smashing Pumpkins,  Metallica,  Soundgarden and Aerosmith.
The rest were relativly unheard off.

[HellRevisited]

I agree with their choice of Scott being a marketing decision(but hey,it did work)
& about Bach,Duff said in an interview that they sounded like Skid Row when Bas was singing.He does have an extremely recognizable voice.

[jmapelian]

When I heard they were thinking of Weiland and Bach, I'll admit I wanted Bach

Obviously, the band members heard something we didn't and chose Scott for whatever reason.

As they said, we didn't want to sound like Skid Row.

Can't argue with the end result.

[Walapino]

Bach would have been heavier and more rocking!!! 

[metallex78]

As they said, we didn't want to sound like Skid Row.

They obviously much preferred to sound like STP instead...

[moreblack]

actually they like to sound more like VR from what I've heard.

[SourBaby]

Bach sucks.... Plus Scott was my childhood hero (one of them)

[Communist China]

I don't think VR would still exist if Bach was the singer. His personality seems too wild for the other band guys to deal with. Reminds them, of Axl, maybe? Scott seems like the right personality to keep them going and keep them respected without getting into some war of words with Axl or the Crue like Bach probably would've gotten them into.