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Quote from: mrlee on February 05, 2006, 06:58:01 AM
Many of my friends dislike guns n roses because they say axl roses voice is annoying. i really dont understand how they find such a great voice annoying when they all listen to that grunting shit like trivium and all the other wannabe bands with crappy names.
About 6/7 years ago when i was about 10, I didn't really like GNR (hadn't heard much stuff) and also because I thought Axl's voice was annoying. But if you sit and listen to an album it will change your mind.
Get your friends to sit through AFD and their opinions will definitely change.
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Quote from: Dead_N_Bloated on February 04, 2006, 10:37:30 PM
Quote from: geographicaloddity on February 04, 2006, 07:41:25 PM
who's Richard Black? and Who is Shark Island? Isn't that an exhibit in Vegas?
Shark Island were a band from LA in the 80's that never got anywhere. Axl and Traci Guns played Led Zepplins Rock N' Roll with em at least once. And prob a few more songs.
I believe it was only Rock N' Roll and it was in 1985.
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Heres the entire quote from melodirock.com:
I'm not sure if you want to comment on this - but I hope you do - but it is well known that several other artists mirrored their look and their stage antics on yours. I already mentioned what a huge reputation the band had as a live act, but the big draw card was your charismatic performance as frontman.
It seems to be a well known fact among followers of the scene at the time that Guns N Roses frontman Axl Rose would come and see you guys perform every week and 'borrowed' a lot of your moves - from your moves to even your stage rap and song delivery.
There are other examples, but Axl seems to be the best known.
Is this correct and what impact did it have upon you to see other bands getting famous off something which you more or less perfected?
You know I have always tried to avoid this topic because I never wanted to sound like a sniveling bitter victim, and I largely kept my mouth shut. But every so often however, the topic continues to rear its ugly head. But then again avoiding the subject never did any good.
Let me tell you a story; in the early days I was influenced by the pioneers of this music, but I was getting it together. I soon learned if I continued to copy them, people wouldn't take me seriously. I evolved and became my unique self. I have never systematically copied a single artist except jokingly or on Halloween.
What happened in my instance however, was quite a different story.
I was being copied all right?sometimes by down right impersonators, it was creepy.
I could see their point, they figured it was working for us, so why not them.
Regardless of how you felt about the band it was hard to ignore us. I suppose wearing nothing but an American flag or a paper jumpsuit with duct tape hasn't caught on yet, but was pretty original?a little too ahead of its time I guess.
I would wear pajamas on stage just for fun?soon there after I'd see some our friends and followers wearing pajamas.
I use to have these bike shorts that I decided to wear onstage, then it seemed bike shorts were the rage in L.A. I don't think it was a coincidence.
What I'm talking about is copying someone' essence. When art is involved, that is not cool; it's a form of plagiarism.
And I give a horse' ass about 'imitation is the best form of flattery'. I don't need to be flattered.
Many Popular bands and personalities came to see Shark Island, that's a fact, and many took elements home with them for their stage show or album covers, or wardrobe?oh well, I'm flattered?nothing that could have altered the path of my career.
But that good-for-nothing Axl Rose, he' really a piece of work for the dregs.
As far as I'm concerned he's never done anything original in his life. Him and his cronies would come every week and watch the show.
One day before GnR's debut, I went to his place?as I walked in I saw a video of me playing on his TV and on top was a stack of VHS tapes all labeled Shark Island with dates and times. I remember being mortified, it was obvious he was studying my shtick, and I knew there was nothing I could do, being their album was about to be released, and he'd cap on the press get the credit.
My many years of developing, and refining my craft and years of modern dance were up for grabs by this fool and a video camcorder.
I remember some people telling me about him acting like me, but I never worried much on a count that we were all in the same boat.
Then came Welcome To The Jungle, I though I was looking in the mirror, or the videos on Axl's TV.
You said 'borrowed' earlier well that implies a payback. What burns me up even more is in his heyday he never so much as mentioned Shark Island or Richard Black in all his press. Which, by the way, could have helped us at no cost to him; he never even threw us a bone.
Now, truth be told, I couldn't possibly care less. That's all old crap and it does me no good now, besides, I am nothing like I was back then, and I'd look like a fool to try.
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Quote from: Groghan on February 04, 2006, 04:39:27 PM
I just laughed when I read this.
Feature Interview: Shark Island frontman Richard Black
Shark Island vocalist Richard Black breaks his long silence in this exclusive melodicrock.com interview.
And finally on Guns N Roses frontman Axl Rose: "...he' really a piece of work for the dregs. As far as I'm concerned he's never done anything original in his life."
That sounds interesting if its true.
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Quote from: stilt on February 05, 2006, 01:41:23 PM
Heres the entire quote from melodirock.com:
I'm not sure if you want to comment on this - but I hope you do - but it is well known that several other artists mirrored their look and their stage antics on yours. I already mentioned what a huge reputation the band had as a live act, but the big draw card was your charismatic performance as frontman.
It seems to be a well known fact among followers of the scene at the time that Guns N Roses frontman Axl Rose would come and see you guys perform every week and 'borrowed' a lot of your moves - from your moves to even your stage rap and song delivery.
There are other examples, but Axl seems to be the best known.
Is this correct and what impact did it have upon you to see other bands getting famous off something which you more or less perfected?
You know I have always tried to avoid this topic because I never wanted to sound like a sniveling bitter victim, and I largely kept my mouth shut. But every so often however, the topic continues to rear its ugly head. But then again avoiding the subject never did any good.
Let me tell you a story; in the early days I was influenced by the pioneers of this music, but I was getting it together. I soon learned if I continued to copy them, people wouldn't take me seriously. I evolved and became my unique self. I have never systematically copied a single artist except jokingly or on Halloween.
What happened in my instance however, was quite a different story.
I was being copied all right?sometimes by down right impersonators, it was creepy.
I could see their point, they figured it was working for us, so why not them.
Regardless of how you felt about the band it was hard to ignore us. I suppose wearing nothing but an American flag or a paper jumpsuit with duct tape hasn't caught on yet, but was pretty original?a little too ahead of its time I guess.
I would wear pajamas on stage just for fun?soon there after I'd see some our friends and followers wearing pajamas.
I use to have these bike shorts that I decided to wear onstage, then it seemed bike shorts were the rage in L.A. I don't think it was a coincidence.
What I'm talking about is copying someone' essence. When art is involved, that is not cool; it's a form of plagiarism.
And I give a horse' ass about 'imitation is the best form of flattery'. I don't need to be flattered.
Many Popular bands and personalities came to see Shark Island, that's a fact, and many took elements home with them for their stage show or album covers, or wardrobe?oh well, I'm flattered?nothing that could have altered the path of my career.
But that good-for-nothing Axl Rose, he' really a piece of work for the dregs.
As far as I'm concerned he's never done anything original in his life. Him and his cronies would come every week and watch the show.
One day before GnR's debut, I went to his place?as I walked in I saw a video of me playing on his TV and on top was a stack of VHS tapes all labeled Shark Island with dates and times. I remember being mortified, it was obvious he was studying my shtick, and I knew there was nothing I could do, being their album was about to be released, and he'd cap on the press get the credit.
My many years of developing, and refining my craft and years of modern dance were up for grabs by this fool and a video camcorder.
I remember some people telling me about him acting like me, but I never worried much on a count that we were all in the same boat.
Then came Welcome To The Jungle, I though I was looking in the mirror, or the videos on Axl's TV.
You said 'borrowed' earlier well that implies a payback. What burns me up even more is in his heyday he never so much as mentioned Shark Island or Richard Black in all his press. Which, by the way, could have helped us at no cost to him; he never even threw us a bone.
Now, truth be told, I couldn't possibly care less. That's all old crap and it does me no good now, besides, I am nothing like I was back then, and I'd look like a fool to try.
yeah axl stole his style, etc..... fuckhead!!! at least he isn`t still tryin to get back in contact with axl like traci guns...
this was a really annoying read...
what`s indeed true is that axl`s moves onstage, etc changed after '83.... there is this vid from hollywood rose i think where he?s dancing different to how he did it in gnr......
but if this guy is "the original"........ why didn`t he became popular? i guess because he was really great in what he did....
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Quote from: Christos AG on February 05, 2006, 09:19:02 AM
Quote from: Dead_N_Bloated on February 04, 2006, 10:37:30 PM
Quote from: geographicaloddity on February 04, 2006, 07:41:25 PM
who's Richard Black? and Who is Shark Island? Isn't that an exhibit in Vegas?
Shark Island were a band from LA in the 80's that never got anywhere. Axl and Traci Guns played Led Zepplins Rock N' Roll with em at least once. And prob a few more songs.
I believe it was only Rock N' Roll and it was in 1985.
Was that the only time the played together?
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Quote from: Dead_N_Bloated on February 05, 2006, 05:50:39 PM
Quote from: Christos AG on February 05, 2006, 09:19:02 AM
Quote from: Dead_N_Bloated on February 04, 2006, 10:37:30 PM
Quote from: geographicaloddity on February 04, 2006, 07:41:25 PM
who's Richard Black? and Who is Shark Island? Isn't that an exhibit in Vegas?
Shark Island were a band from LA in the 80's that never got anywhere. Axl and Traci Guns played Led Zepplins Rock N' Roll with em at least once. And prob a few more songs.
I believe it was only Rock N' Roll and it was in 1985.
Was that the only time the played together?
Yes from my knowledge...
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Quote from: Christos AG on February 05, 2006, 06:26:21 PM
Quote from: Dead_N_Bloated on February 05, 2006, 05:50:39 PM
Quote from: Christos AG on February 05, 2006, 09:19:02 AM
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who's Richard Black? and Who is Shark Island? Isn't that an exhibit in Vegas?
Shark Island were a band from LA in the 80's that never got anywhere. Axl and Traci Guns played Led Zepplins Rock N' Roll with em at least once. And prob a few more songs.
I believe it was only Rock N' Roll and it was in 1985.
Was that the only time the played together?
Yes from my knowledge...
yeah but axl watched every show they did..........................
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Awwwww.........Richard Black, don't be bitter cause someone did it better than you.
It does fascinate me, many years later, to see what GNR was in the years prior to the release of AFD. As a kid, I always just assumed GNR was born into the SCOM video. But to now know all the work & studying it took from the band to get that classic AFD era look & sound is quite something. And thankfully, Axl never picked up on the pajama's!
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.....And Slash wore a top hat like Joe Perry and smoked a cigarette onstage like Keith Richards.
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Quote from: mikegiuliana on February 05, 2006, 04:49:12 AM
there are people out there that just feel what axl does is fucked up... Rich poor famous or a nobody everyone is entitled to their opinion.. I doubt he's looking for publicity since no one gives a fuck either way
Except Axl sings in key.
So what if Axl stole a few stage moves from this tool, the man had lyrical talent and great charisma, I think that matters more anyway.
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Quote from: W. Botaxl Rose on February 05, 2006, 06:56:13 PM
Awwwww.........Richard Black, don't be bitter cause someone did it better than you.
It does fascinate me, many years later, to see what GNR was in the years prior to the release of AFD. As a kid, I always just assumed GNR was born into the SCOM video. But to now know all the work & studying it took from the band to get that classic AFD era look & sound is quite something. And thankfully, Axl never picked up on the pajama's!
yeah, but if that guy is claiming the bike pants he should be ashamed
sounds like some bitter whining little bitch to me
Axl was 100% original and besides it was a lot more than clothes and stage moves - he had gravitas and burning soul that can't be bought, sold or borrowed - he was the real deal no doubt
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richard black
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your a hack
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I think you have just written a hit song
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Quote from: Gunner80? on February 05, 2006, 10:46:40 PM
Quote from: mikegiuliana on February 05, 2006, 04:49:12 AM
there are people out there that just feel what axl does is fucked up... Rich poor famous or a nobody everyone is entitled to their opinion.. I doubt he's looking for publicity since no one gives a fuck either way
Except Axl sings in key.
So what if Axl stole a few stage moves from this tool, the man had lyrical talent and great charisma, I think that matters more anyway.
I wouldn't know I never even heard of that guy.. I think gnr took a lot of ideas with dress from hanoi rocks personally
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I always find it amusing how these "wannabes" can trash talk to some idiotic media person, but I bet they wouldn't have the balls to say it to Axl's face. So many people have trashed Axl and no one has bothered to back their shit up. Well, Axl has proven he's the best because kids are still buying his albums and no one has heard from these other people.
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Richard Black? Who?
If I wasn't in such a good mood, I'd start yelling about this unknown asshole insulting Axl. I often start shouting at people if they insult Axl....
If they know me, they either only do it to wind me up, or not at all because they know I'll fly off the handle and most likely hit someone....
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Quote from: Groghan on February 04, 2006, 04:39:27 PM
And finally on Guns N Roses frontman Axl Rose: "...he' really a piece of work for the dregs. As far as I'm concerned he's never done anything original in his life."
? ?.....? Richard Black is a simple stoner who can't be accepted by the show business to date, he just hates Axl cuz Axl does know how to kiss in the ass ALWAYS, i once heard that Richard Black used to sell his ugly body (like a gay whore) in sunset boulevard in L.A city in 1983 cuz the sucker's tried to get money n' fame since then but all he got is shit into his life these days, maybe Axl is gonna bash him on stage in front of us all someday, ...
you can see this ridiculous band, i don't know what da'fuck they tried to mean when they showed this crapy picture...they look like the spice girls on drugs after having wild sex with their manager
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? ?http://web.onetel.net.uk/~wb198/shrkband.gif? ?
you just watch right Robert Black to notice the cocaine was travelin' around his body that time!!!!!?
? they all should Thank Lord 'bout Axl is not here to read this cuz the guy might destroy richard's house sooner or later, hey Axl Rose we're all on your side mate!!!!
.............. oh fuck!!!!!!!!!!?
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I just laughed when I read this.
Feature Interview: Shark Island frontman Richard Black
Shark Island vocalist Richard Black breaks his long silence in this exclusive melodicrock.com interview.
And finally on Guns N Roses frontman Axl Rose: "...he' really a piece of work for the dregs. As far as I'm concerned he's never done anything original in his life."
Omg! Just for that i want him to die and will be burning down the US embassy - whether this guy is American or not - death to those who insult my lord Axl
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Izzy... I know EXACTLY how you feel! Just read my earlier post...
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Quote from: SkynyrdGirl on February 07, 2006, 08:43:34 PM
Izzy... I know EXACTLY how you feel! Just read my earlier post...
read mine too!!! Richard must die for insultin' Axl that way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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