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Chinese Democracy - Concept Album?
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What do you suppose the odds are that Chinese Democracy will be in some way a concept album? It seems probable that the songs will have similarities in terms of sound and theme. Axl mentioned Queen specifically, and has said in the past that Queen II was his favourite record, very much a conceptual record.
What do you think? Concept album or collection of songs?
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Interesting theory, perhaps it could be... Maybe this time has been spent on writing a narrative in songs or something.
I guess we'll know soon enough!
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Yeah, I think there will be a specific theme to the album. But without hearing the songs, or at least having a confirmed track list, it would just be a guess. I did an identical thread to this last year. You should have just resurrected my thread.
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whrn did axl say queen II was his favourite record?
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I have a worrying feeling Chinese Democracy will always remain a 'concept' album
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why not ?
I am sure that behind all the songs Axl and the band recorded, there is a concept.
All the new songs we heard are about a person, either a woman or the old members of gnr I guess, and they relate differents moments of life.
so my guess is chinese democracy could be Axl's autobiography!
what do you think of that ?
others ideas ?
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id say your thinking too much......
which of the new songs do you think relates to the "old members"?
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Yes of course there is, it was said that there is a certain order that the songs go to (more less compliment each other). Sadly I can't find a song from all we've heard that ties itself to or with 'Catcher in the rye'. We shall see come Nov??
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Quote from: wadey9@htgth on October 02, 2008, 04:00:21 PM
id say your thinking too much......
which of the new songs do you think relates to the "old members"?
madagascar
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Quote from: vanilie on October 02, 2008, 04:07:59 PM
Quote from: wadey9@htgth on October 02, 2008, 04:00:21 PM
id say your thinking too much......
which of the new songs do you think relates to the "old members"?
madagascar
interesting? people interpret songs differently, i could see what your thinking but i'm thinking differently
Quote from: vanilie on October 02, 2008, 03:50:52 PM
All the new songs we heard are about a person, either a woman or the old members of gnr I guess, and they relate differents moments of life.
i think that could be the same for any band (singer/songwriter)......all songs relate to different moments in life. or are about a person or something that relates to them
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Quote from: wadey9@htgth on October 02, 2008, 04:00:21 PM
id say your thinking too much......
which of the new songs do you think relates to the "old members"?
most of them could actually.
as far as it being a concept album, the only concept will be to put the best songs on the album(s) in a complimentary fashion...I think.
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Most of Axl's newer stuff seems very autobiographical.
The writing has become a bit more deep than when the old band was together.
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Quote from: wadey9@htgth on October 02, 2008, 04:13:24 PM
Quote from: vanilie on October 02, 2008, 03:50:52 PM
All the new songs we heard are about a person, either a woman or the old members of gnr I guess, and they relate differents moments of life.
i think that could be the same for any band (singer/songwriter)......all songs relate to different moments in life. or are about a person or something that relates to them
that's right, but imo, songs on CD were not chosen at random. there's a link between them I think
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Well actually Axl has said about CD that : "Its truly a melting pot" which should point in the oposite direction of a concept album...
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Quote from: torzt on October 02, 2008, 05:39:19 PM
Well actually Axl has said about CD that : "Its truly a melting pot" which should point in the oposite direction of a concept album...
Wasn't that just a comment regarding different musical styles present though? It doesn't rule out the change of concept album..
...I don't believe in it either though. But hay who knows.
The melting pot remark always felt a little troubling somehow. It wouldn't be nice if CD was too much of a smish smash of sounds and styles. I'd rather not see an album that sounds like it has been 10 years in the making, with 10 different "band members", 10 different producers, in 10 different studios with 10 different studio engineers, and 10..ah you get point:P
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probably more autobiographical than conceptual. about Madagascar we knows he spent some time there. in China, too.
lyrics are sometimes about women (stephanie seymour, jennifer driver...)
don't forget he's a huge fan of roger waters, too.
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Quote from: torzt on October 02, 2008, 05:39:19 PM
Well actually Axl has said about CD that : "Its truly a melting pot" which should point in the oposite direction of a concept album...
The melting pot remark I believe was more about the sound of the album, and the different styles coming together, rather than the concept of the album itself in terms of themes/lyrics
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Only Axl knows what goes on in Axl's head...and like the rest of humanity, his hold on that is tenuous at times. I will wait for his explaination before I fall into the trap of 'reviewing' or commenting on an unreleased album we know very little about.
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While I'm eager to hear Axl's first interview as mentioned by D, I'd really love to hear him break down the songs, how the developed by musically and lyrically. GN'R Storytellers would be great!
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Quote from: wadey9@htgth on October 02, 2008, 04:00:21 PM
id say your thinking too much......
which of the new songs do you think relates to the "old members"?
most of them could actually.
as far as it being a concept album, the only concept will be to put the best songs on the album(s) in a complimentary fashion...I think.
I specifically think The Blues is about Slash. TWAT about Stephanie Seymour. Madagascar about Axl's isolation from the public. IRS about his lawsuits. Message For You partly about the drama of getting CD completed. Then you have songs like Rhiad, Chinese Democracy, and Shacklers which are less autobiographical. Just my guesses anyway.
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