Supposed big news from Dizzy:

[jameslofton29]

as a longtime (since '91) guns n' roses fan and an awaiter for the new album since 1999 i feel obligated to say something about this. i'm as excited about axl's reemergence and the forthcoming release of new music as any diehard gnr fan, and having watched an online fanbase as dedicated and patient as the gnr one, which i take great pride in being a part of, it's a shame to see gnr fans either deceive other gnr fans or withhold potential new info from them. we are watching something amazing take place here together, the long-awaited new guns n' roses album is finally coming after all these years and we are right here awaiting it and experiencing it together online, and for anyone to try to withhold news about this event from other dedicated fans who spend parts of their lives supporting their favourite band, is simply dispicable. this is music we are talking about here, not governent secrets. i respect and appreciate axl's choice not to speak until he has something to say, but i refuse to believe that he or any other member of gnr would let a select few fans of theirs in on crucial information about the album and at the same time make them swear secrecy and refuse them to pass the information on to other fans. regardless of what may or not be happening now, fans who keep other fans from taking part in the guns n' roses experience we are now witnessing, are a disgrace to the loyalty and the dedication gnr fans show both the new band and this unique community.

Thats the best first post by a new member  that I've ever seen.  Welcome to the forum!

[dolphin]

The way I see all of this "I have news and you don't" thing is like this:

Mygnr.com person: ?"I have news and you don't"

Htgth person: ?"Good for you"


In other words, DON'T let it AFFECT you. ?IF THERE IS REAL NEWS, IT WILL BE MADE PUBLIC FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW.

You can let these people affect you or you can NOT give a shit and let them spew whatever they want.

In the long run, we will all be made privy to the same info someday and that'll be the release of CD. ?So I say fuck everyone until then

[misterID]

as a longtime (since '91) guns n' roses fan and an awaiter for the new album since 1999 i feel obligated to say something about this. i'm as excited about axl's reemergence and the forthcoming release of new music as any diehard gnr fan, and having watched an online fanbase as dedicated and patient as the gnr one, which i take great pride in being a part of, it's a shame to see gnr fans either deceive other gnr fans or withhold potential new info from them. we are watching something amazing take place here together, the long-awaited new guns n' roses album is finally coming after all these years and we are right here awaiting it and experiencing it together online, and for anyone to try to withhold news about this event from other dedicated fans who spend parts of their lives supporting their favourite band, is simply dispicable. this is music we are talking about here, not governent secrets. i respect and appreciate axl's choice not to speak until he has something to say, but i refuse to believe that he or any other member of gnr would let a select few fans of theirs in on crucial information about the album and at the same time make them swear secrecy and refuse them to pass the information on to other fans. regardless of what may or not be happening now, fans who keep other fans from taking part in the guns n' roses experience we are now witnessing, are a disgrace to the loyalty and the dedication gnr fans show both the new band and this unique community.

The fans you're talking about have been around forever. Axl's silence has allowed people who want attention- to get it by having "insider" knowledge and causing a huge stir.

An easy solution: GNR has an official website... GNR should use it.

[dolphin]

fuck gnronline.

they should just use HTGTH

[speed-stone]

Thats the best first post by a new member  that I've ever seen.  Welcome to the forum!

thank you.

The fans you're talking about have been around forever. Axl's silence has allowed people who want attention- to get it by having "insider" knowledge and causing a huge stir.

so in your eyes, if a person (in this case an artist) chooses not to speak or defend himself in a while, that automatically makes impersonation or lies about this person's life or projects in life acceptable and legit? strange logic. by that logic i should just accept and outright welcome any bashing or lies about me as a person that accurs after i log off this board tonight.

[misterID]

Thats the best first post by a new member? that I've ever seen.? Welcome to the forum!

thank you.

The fans you're talking about have been around forever. Axl's silence has allowed people who want attention- to get it by having "insider" knowledge and causing a huge stir.

so in your eyes, if a person (in this case an artist) chooses not to speak or defend himself in a while, that automatically makes impersonation or lies about this person's life or projects in life acceptable and legit? strange logic. by that logic i should just accept and outright welcome any bashing or lies about me as a person that accurs after i log off this board tonight.

I took up for Axl's "silence" for a long time... Then time rolled on... rolled on... rolled on.. Tour Cancelled for no reason... time rolled on..? time rolled on... Buckethead left... A statement saying a release date for CD would be announced in the next few months...

That never happened. I'm saying when you decide to tease your fans, and not say anything, your asking for fake insiders to start causing havoc.

Axl should not bitch about the "garbage can" known as the internet when his actions play a part in it.

Does he owe anyone anything? No. Should he show the fans more respect? YES.

[gav]

Great posts from 'that certain someone'.

ARC - assuming you do know what this 'event' is, can you at least tell us when you think that knowledge of it's nature will be PUBLICLY available??

[Markus Asraelius]

Is it just me or is this waiting crap harder now that it was 2 years ago?

[the dirt]

Is it just me or is this waiting crap harder now that it was 2 years ago?

I think it's easier now. 

[damnthehaters]

Now it's just getting rediculas. ?You guys are building this "event" up way too much. ?Maybe Madagascar88 shouldn't have mentioned it in the first place, but it's not as big as you guys think. ?He said from the get go, that it could lead to the release of Chinese Democracy. ?It's not an announcement, a show, a single or antyhing like that. ?It's simply something that I think he agreed with Dizzy that he would not share. ? ?

Check this thread (Grammys Feb. 8, 2006. Could GNR show up?), and your answer is pretty much spelled out for you on page 2. ?

[gav]

 I think the recent furore will serve only to make people even more impatient. I can only hope our wait isn't too long, however I fear it may be.

[Continental Drift]

Great. So GN'R had a band meeting after which Dizzy promptly decided to book a Hookers N' Blow Spring Tour... sounds like an encouraging meeting.

Chinese Democracy Starts Now![tm] Saul

[killingvector]

Great. So GN'R had a band meeting after which Dizzy promptly decided to book a Hookers N' Blow Spring Tour... sounds like an encouraging meeting.

Chinese Democracy Starts Now![tm] Saul

LOL. More of the same. I would guess the band gets a phone call or fax anyway acknowledging a release date. I doubt they get together unless they have to play live which could be awhile from now.

[KillYourIdols]

Guys, there have been "insiders" and shit for the last 10 years on the boards....from Usenet to GNROnline, to MYGNR to HTGTH, everywhere. The only 2 things I can remember being true from all that time is that someone posted about OMG being in the trailer on MTV Awards in 99, (although the major news wires also picked it up), and that GNR were going to play MTV in 02.

Thats it. There may be more but thats all I can remember right now.

All other "info" is pure specualtion. Because I bet the "info" that people thought they had has changed so many times that it doesn't matter anymore.

Dizzy could very well have told him something...but who gives a fuck. Who's to say that it will happen? And if he DOES say something, and then it doesn't happen, then he looks like a dick. Dizzy says "album is coming in 6 weeks," (which he really believes), but guess what, something happens and the album is delayed. Is it FALSE info...not really. Innacurate, yes.

So I don't blame him, IF (if if if) he does know something, for not sharing it. But do I care? No. We'll all be holding CD in our hands the same day, and that's all the info I need to know.

Until then, take EVERYTHING with a grain of salt.

[Minneapolisnewsman]

Guys, there have been "insiders" and shit for the last 10 years on the boards....from Usenet to GNROnline, to MYGNR to HTGTH, everywhere. The only 2 things I can remember being true from all that time is that someone posted about OMG being in the trailer on MTV Awards in 99, (although the major news wires also picked it up), and that GNR were going to play MTV in 02.

Thats it. There may be more but thats all I can remember right now.

All other "info" is pure specualtion. Because I bet the "info" that people thought they had has changed so many times that it doesn't matter anymore.

Dizzy could very well have told him something...but who gives a fuck. Who's to say that it will happen? And if he DOES say something, and then it doesn't happen, then he looks like a dick. Dizzy says "album is coming in 6 weeks," (which he really believes), but guess what, something happens and the album is delayed. Is it FALSE info...not really. Innacurate, yes.

So I don't blame him, IF (if if if) he does know something, for not sharing it. But do I care? No. We'll all be holding CD in our hands the same day, and that's all the info I need to know.

Until then, take EVERYTHING with a grain of salt.

GH was predicted on the boards, as were a few other events like Bucket's departure, and a few other things.  Does anyone remember any other things that were predicted, or rumored on the boards which became true? 

I agree with Lofton, that 1st post was fantastic, and I should add, that we would all find out more without the insane in-fighting between different sub-segments of the GNR community.  We all love the band, and that should unite us.  Also, I think it will only help the band, if all of those with some info share it with all, and build the grass roots movement.  The rumors will spread to other sites, like wildfires in the Malibou hills.  Also realize, the OMG thing was leaked on purpose by the label, to be shared online, and generate buzz within the GNR community for the single.  Many things are leaked, in a very discreet manner, by mgt. and the label---and sometimes not solely for promotional reasons.

[jameslofton29]

I agree with Lofton

You're smart. But I think you're wrong about "insiders" predicting BH's departure. If memory serves me correctly, when rumours were swirling that he left, the "insiders" were saying he was still in the band.

[MR W,AXL ROSE]

maybe he is still in the band 

[jameslofton29]

maybe he is still in the band?

Yeah, thats why Slash is begging for a reunion. He wants to work with BH before he decides to leave for real.

[MR W,AXL ROSE]

how can slash and bucket play together when there really both the same person 

[killingvector]

Guys, there have been "insiders" and shit for the last 10 years on the boards....from Usenet to GNROnline, to MYGNR to HTGTH, everywhere. The only 2 things I can remember being true from all that time is that someone posted about OMG being in the trailer on MTV Awards in 99, (although the major news wires also picked it up), and that GNR were going to play MTV in 02.

Thats it. There may be more but thats all I can remember right now.

All other "info" is pure specualtion. Because I bet the "info" that people thought they had has changed so many times that it doesn't matter anymore.

Dizzy could very well have told him something...but who gives a fuck. Who's to say that it will happen? And if he DOES say something, and then it doesn't happen, then he looks like a dick. Dizzy says "album is coming in 6 weeks," (which he really believes), but guess what, something happens and the album is delayed. Is it FALSE info...not really. Innacurate, yes.

So I don't blame him, IF (if if if) he does know something, for not sharing it. But do I care? No. We'll all be holding CD in our hands the same day, and that's all the info I need to know.

Until then, take EVERYTHING with a grain of salt.

amen. Why fight about something that can neither be confirmed or discredited? It was a fun read nevertheless.