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Re: Dizzy Reed [on the Cornell campus] semi-interview
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Quote from: WARose on February 01, 2006, 03:36:32 PM
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Quote from: ppbebe on January 31, 2006, 03:00:10 PM
And If my memory serves me right, Axl said he wanted to bring? its original resolution, ie the AFD spirit, back to the band. Needless to say it no way means reproducing AFD.
Really ? I didn't know about that. I thought he wanted to bring some NIN elements into GN'R.
By the way, if this is a band, don't you think it would have been logical to see Axl attending the Korn party with other members of GN'R ? Or is he the only member ?
axl was going out with some family friends of his and his assistand for dinner and decided to go to the korn party to have some fun and he had to call the band members to escort??? ridiculous
OK, it's ridiculous. But the guys of Good Charlotte attended the party together.
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It doesn't matter to me that Axl went to this party alone. But the last time they were together, for
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was at least three years and a month ago.
That's what's rediculous. I'd at least expect them to jam together, considering they lost a guitarist in that span.
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It doesn't matter to me that Axl went to this party alone. But the last time they were together, for
anything
was at least three years and a month ago.
That's what's rediculous. I'd at least expect them to jam together, considering they lost a guitarist in that span.
Axl being alone at the party, I know, it's not very important. Just a sign...
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Quote from: WARose on February 01, 2006, 03:32:25 PM
and we don`t exactely know who`s participating in the mixing part etc.... tommy, dizzel and richard are surely not that`s right..... but that doesn?t mean that axl`s doing his own thing now..... and even if he is i`d still call it a collaborative effort.....
everyone is doing what he`s supposed to
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I have been trying my hardest to not ge tinvolved in this argument again but i just have to
This is what the band members are supposed to be doing FOR GnR right now?
Finck - Dunno, last seen writing plays
Richard - Was recording for a week or two but now off with NINA again
Brain - Dunno last seen doing drum schools in England
Tommy - Dunno, Last seen with Soul Asylum
Dizzy - off on his own performing in college dorms and touring with Hookers'N'Blow
Pittman - Dunno last seen with his band Zaum
Axl - Recording, Mixing, Picking Tracklistings, Producing
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I mean it's quite possible that Robin, Brain, Tommy and Pittman are around Axl but I doubt it. we have no indications to say otherwise. any interview you read with them is "I haven't talked to Axl in a Year" or "GnR hasn't all been in the same room since MSG 2002"
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Quote from: pilferk on February 01, 2006, 03:06:36 PM
Quote from: ppbebe on February 01, 2006, 02:47:51 PM
Well Learning is gaining new knowledge. it wouldn't cause you to lose other knowledge you already have.
At least in my case it doesn't.
Hmmm, really? So, when you learn new things you don't/won't change the way you do things, doing them different than you used to, based on that new knowledge? You might not "forget" the old way, but you may adopt a "new" way because you like it more, find it more efficient, or have new tools. I may very well answer a question quite differently than I did 7 years ago....I'm sure the same is true of you.
Yes. when the change is necessary and for the better.
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I doubt that no one other than Axl has their say at all.
I need evidence.
You have it. Read the other bandmembers comments. Not knowing what material sounds like seems to be a common response (Tommy, Dizzy, and Richard have all said similar things in the past). Not knowing a finalized track list does too. You have the evidence, and it's been plainly pointed out to you here, and in other threads on this subject. Whether you choose to internalize that evidence, or not, is up to you.
I can hardly consider these as hard evidence.
Have we heard from other members? Robin? Chris?
Have we heard about the finalized track list yet? Even from Axl?
Quote from: pilferk on February 01, 2006, 03:06:36 PM
Listen to "Let it Be" and "Let it be Naked". Same muscial structure to each of those songs on both albums...COMPLETELY different "sound". Some of those songs bear little to no resemblance to each other simply because of the production.
And does either of them sound horrid?
Quote from: pilferk on February 01, 2006, 03:06:36 PM
There are so many differences in the '99 article....just look at the number of tracks he lists there (16 to 18), and now in '06 (13). Look at who he talks about laying down instrumentals (Josh Freeze and Paul Huge are mentioned). There are a bunch of other changes, both with what he said in '06, AND what he said before the '02 tour.
These are not the gist of Axl's ideas on the album, are they?
initially I just posted the link to the article in relation to the albums of 1.5~2 decades ago you brought up. If you have a recent article where he talks about those things, post it plz.
Now, to see the consistency in Axl's ideas, the article is relevant.
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You have it. Read the other bandmembers comments. Not knowing what material sounds like seems to be a common response (Tommy, Dizzy, and Richard have all said similar things in the past). Not knowing a finalized track list does too. You have the evidence, and it's been plainly pointed out to you here, and in other threads on this subject. Whether you choose to internalize that evidence, or not, is up to you.
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I can hardly consider these as hard evidence.
Have we heard from other members? Robin? Chris?
Have we heard about the finalized track list yet? Even from Axl?
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the tracklist is a good example. the whole band will decide about tracklist/cover and stuff but this point isn`t reached yet. at least that`s what i believe......
i really hope that there will be a documentary about the making of CD at some point.....so that we really know what`s goin on
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Quote from: WARose on February 01, 2006, 03:32:25 PM
and we don`t exactely know who`s participating in the mixing part etc.... tommy, dizzel and richard are surely not that`s right..... but that doesn?t mean that axl`s doing his own thing now..... and even if he is i`d still call it a collaborative effort.....
everyone is doing what he`s supposed to
...
I have been trying my hardest to not ge tinvolved in this argument again but i just have to
This is what the band members are supposed to be doing FOR GnR right now?
Finck - Dunno, last seen writing plays
Richard - Was recording for a week or two but now off with NINA again
Brain - Dunno last seen doing drum schools in England
Tommy - Dunno, Last seen with Soul Asylum
Dizzy - off on his own performing in college dorms and touring with Hookers'N'Blow
Pittman - Dunno last seen with his band Zaum
Axl - Recording, Mixing, Picking Tracklistings, Producing
GNR STUFF
I mean it's quite possible that Robin, Brain, Tommy and Pittman are around Axl but I doubt it. we have no indications to say otherwise. any interview you read with them is "I haven't talked to Axl in a Year" or "GnR hasn't all been in the same room since MSG 2002"
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well they allready did what they were supposed to so there`s no need to continue working with axl at the moment....
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Quote from: Pepe Da Rosa on January 31, 2006, 03:35:24 PM
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And If my memory serves me right, Axl said he wanted to bring its original resolution, ie the AFD spirit, back to the band. Needless to say it no way means reproducing AFD.
Really ? I didn't know about that. I thought he wanted to bring some NIN elements into GN'R.
By the way, if this is a band, don't you think it would have been logical to see Axl attending the Korn party with other members of GN'R ? Or is he the only member ?
axl was going out with some family friends of his and his assistand for dinner and decided to go to the korn party to have some fun and he had to call the band members to escort?? ridiculous
OK, it's ridiculous. But the guys of Good Charlotte attended the party together.
As a band
.
yeah.... they?re a boy band.... they have to attend a party together
it`s part of their contract....
by the way... it seems that axl didn`t plan to attend the party, ie he went there spontaneously.... and since he isn`t hanging out with his band mates they weren`t with him....... and members of a band don`t have to hang out with each other...... it`s about the music.... look at the old band.... it doesn`t work for axl to have a band with his friends....
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Quote from: AxlsMainMan on February 01, 2006, 03:16:15 PM
It really doesnt matter if the other bandmembers are watching Axl via camera compose the album from his studio, if there not with him as a whole band assisting in the production process and the composing of the record, than sorry that's not really a band effort..that's called culminating an encyclopedia of song fragments and pieces all my Axl's self.
Again, maybe Led Zeppelin was not a band then. Just their leader was a bit quick about his job.
neither were great many of so called bands.
I think otherwise. Why not. when the band members including the captain A themselves are saying it's not an Axl Rose show but it's collaborative.
Q: Going back to that then, is the album more of a collaborative effort or is it the Axl Rose show?
Dizzy: No, it's collaborative, yes. [Dizzy says this with conviction- responding immediately]
Basically, They've been there. We have not.
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IMO, any song that takes years to finish just can't be that great of a song.
Zeppelin wrote arguably the best song of all time in about 15 minutes.
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IMO, any song that takes years to finish just can't be that great of a song.
Zeppelin wrote arguably the best song of all time in about 15 minutes.
It's obvious that the whole CD recording schedule have always been long periods of inactivity mixed with endless jam sessions.?
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endless jam sessions.?
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endless jam sessions.?
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Dammit James!
Check that Rolling Stone article in 2000. It's been mentioned somewhere.
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endless jam sessions.?
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Dammit James!
? Check that Rolling Stone article in 2000.? It's been mentioned somewhere.
Or I could be the source.
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I remember some article from around 1997 when Duff said Axl had rented some arena/ampitheater so they could all jam together. Maybe thats what you're thinking of. I dont remember any mention of current GNR doing 'endless jam sessions'. But I could be wrong.
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yup...I remember that 2000 RS article too
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endless jam sessions.?
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Dammit James!
? Check that Rolling Stone article in 2000.? It's been mentioned somewhere.
Or I could be the source.
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I remember some article from around 1997 when Duff said Axl had rented some arena/ampitheater so they could all jam together. Maybe thats what you're thinking of. I dont remember any mention of current GNR doing 'endless jam sessions'. But I could be wrong.
Could be, but I think that NY Times article mentioned it as well. But of course, that article is cursed.
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I think that NY Times article mentioned it as well.? But of course, that article is cursed.
Yeah, now that you mention it, I think the Times did make some reference to jam sessions. Why do you say that article is cursed? I thought it was an interesting article. It showed Axl's lack of seriousness in handling this project, and showed how the procrastination was/is spiraling out of control.
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I think that NY Times article mentioned it as well. But of course, that article is cursed.
Yeah, now that you mention it, I think the Times did make some reference to jam sessions. Why do you say that article is cursed? I thought it was an interesting article. It showed Axl's lack of seriousness in handling this project, and showed how the procrastination was/is spiraling out of control.
Also its sources were outdated and out of the loop.
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Also its sources were outdated and out of the loop.
True, but he made some good points.
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I think otherwise. Why not. when the band members including the captain A themselves are saying it's not an Axl Rose show but it's collaborative.
What would you honestly expect Tommy or Dizzy to say?
We were there strictly for the writing and constructing of the songs, but after all the music Axl thought he needed was on tape, he gave us the order to go out and do solo schlock shows indefinately?
The interviewer would immediately fire back with some question like, "So this really is an Axl solo record if he's doing the rest of the work by himself."
It looks better on the band and the members as a whole if they make it sound like there very much up to date with the record, and in the loop. Or else its just bollocks to say, "Yeah Ive been in Gn'R for 8 years with no album to show for it. Still waiting on Round 2 perhaps.."
If the band even minus Buckethead hasn't been in the same room since MSG '02, I truly think thats saying alot Ppbebe about the closeness of this group of musicians. They might be best friends outside of the band and talk together everyday, but if there not even jamming together at least, that's a band on "hold" to me...
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Great interview. If only the other members would give such candid interviews as well.
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Quote from: AxlsMainMan on February 01, 2006, 09:19:02 PM
If the band even minus Buckethead hasn't been in the same room since MSG '02, I truly think thats saying alot Ppbebe about the closeness of this group of musicians. They might be best friends outside of the band and talk together everyday, but if there not even jamming together at least, that's a band on "hold" to me...
But Dizzy pretty much said, in this interview, that he never talks to anybody.
Quote from: Madagascar88 on January 26, 2006, 03:00:25 PM
Who is your best friend in Guns N' Roses right now? Who do you hang out with the most... see the most, etc...?
I don't really hang out with anybody. Umm... you know we talk from time to time on the phone... for the most part- I hang out with my kids... and the guys I actually play with on Thursdays- I see them more cause we have a weekly thing so. I love all the guys though- they're all really cool.
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What was the last time that all the members of the band were together in the same location?
Umm... Madison Square Garden.. 2002. [Dizzy laughs]
[I chime in: "I saw a picture recently I think from 2005 of everyone in the band but Axl hanging out in what looks like a streetcorner or garage"]
Dizzy: From 2005?
Me: ummm.. not sure... it was probably taken before.
Dizzy: Yea... it must've been before.
sounds like he's pretty close with the rest of the guys huh?
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