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« Reply #40 on: February 17, 2006, 05:50:23 AM »

Velvet Revolver is boring, but some riffs are ok but where are the solos? Loaded is way better! I absolutley love that record! Neurotic Outsiders may be one of the best bands of all time. I think they are up there with GnR and Sex Pistols.
Slash's Snakepit was just horrible.

Scott Weiland suck so they should drop him. If the can't anyone else Duff should start up Loaded again and have Slash on lead guitar.

Or maybe Neurotic Outsiders with Duff on bass instead of John Taylor and have Slash play with Steve Jones

Who cares if it sells records? Should they? They've already got the money.

And I really hope they leave Axl alone now and don't come crawling back to him
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« Reply #41 on: February 17, 2006, 06:10:55 AM »

I prefer all the solo projects (Izzy/Duff/Slash) over VR. I'd rather have seen Izzy/Duff/Slash working together.

Still hoping that Izzy is gonna release material with them on it this year or next year like he said. I'd rather have them three working together with a drummer and Izzy/Duff on vocals then Axl.
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« Reply #42 on: February 19, 2006, 01:19:25 PM »

 hey Silly Thing,I agree VR is a boring band, but your Neurotic Outsider lineup confuses me.they worked the way they were,removing JT & adding Slash wouldn't make sense.
you didn't like either Snakepit?the first one was kinda blah,but I loved the second one,Rod rocked. beer
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« Reply #43 on: February 19, 2006, 04:57:32 PM »

If VR went back to side projects it would probably be the dumbest thing anyone of them could do. 
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« Reply #44 on: February 19, 2006, 05:22:30 PM »

I don't know why people keep arguing about scott bach or todd.. they chose scott no sence in saying they should had done this or that.. it is what it is, stp had some damn good albums, core rocked purple etc... Not everyone can like scott. no
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« Reply #45 on: February 20, 2006, 12:11:15 AM »

I don't know why people keep arguing about scott bach or todd.. they chose scott no sence in saying they should had done this or that.. it is what it is, stp had some damn good albums, core rocked purple etc... Not everyone can like scott. no

It's really useless Mike.  Scott is going to catch shit on this board til the end of time.  The irony in it all is that most of the VR bashing revolves around "where are Slash's solos?" and "where's the bluesy stuff?"  Then many of the same people bashing VR for not sounding like Guns turn around in the same breath and say "Axl's a genius, this stuff sounds so different and visionary."  Which is it people?  Do you want the Guns sound, or something fresh? 

Naturally, Scott is going to take heat here b/c this is a gunners-first board, but for God sakes, give the man his due.  He was frontman for an extremely successful, and creative band before VR.  He's not holding anyone back creatively.  The dude is out there in his influences, and his solo work more than shows his creativity.  He put steel drum, lap-steel guitar, and mellotron in a country song.  Maybe you didn't like it, but it's pretty creative.  He gets destroyed about his lyrics, but then you praise Josh Todd.  Fuck, i'm done ranting.
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« Reply #46 on: February 20, 2006, 04:09:05 AM »

I don't know why people keep arguing about scott bach or todd.. they chose scott no sence in saying they should had done this or that.. it is what it is, stp had some damn good albums, core rocked purple etc... Not everyone can like scott. no

It's really useless Mike.? Scott is going to catch shit on this board til the end of time.? The irony in it all is that most of the VR bashing revolves around "where are Slash's solos?" and "where's the bluesy stuff?"? Then many of the same people bashing VR for not sounding like Guns turn around in the same breath and say "Axl's a genius, this stuff sounds so different and visionary."? Which is it people?? Do you want the Guns sound, or something fresh??

Naturally, Scott is going to take heat here b/c this is a gunners-first board, but for God sakes, give the man his due.? He was frontman for an extremely successful, and creative band before VR.? He's not holding anyone back creatively.? The dude is out there in his influences, and his solo work more than shows his creativity.? He put steel drum, lap-steel guitar, and mellotron in a country song.? Maybe you didn't like it, but it's pretty creative.? He gets destroyed about his lyrics, but then you praise Josh Todd.? Fuck, i'm done ranting.

I wouldn't worry about... Most people bitch about him as some lame type of revenge of all the shit people talk about Axl...... Scott is a talented mofo..
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« Reply #47 on: February 20, 2006, 12:43:15 PM »

No, no, and hell no.

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« Reply #48 on: March 21, 2006, 07:22:58 AM »

That's an interesting question.

Personally I'm not as impressed by VR mainly due to Scott, I don't particularly think his vocals tie in well with the music that they play. And in the VH1 Behind the Music programme the music when they were jamming was certainly a lot heavier (and to my mind better) than what appeared on Contraband. Plus what will Scott write about now he's clean? Flowers in the Garden? I might be wrong but the music doesn't seem to have the gut wrenching personal feeling about it that gnr did...everyone there played with their heart and soul (and i saw them loads of times) in this outfit it seems to be lacklustre at the best of times. Going through the motions...where are Slash's solos? MIA?

I still wonder if they wil produce a second album, they cut short the European tour in July last year, cos they were 'desparate' to get back into the studio...well...its more than 6 months later (and Duff had said that they wanted a Christmas release) sooo.....we might not even see a second album.

So...I would love to see Slash's Snakepit again...and Duff seems to be relegated to the background, even Axl gave him a song to sing. If VR folded it would be great to see the individual guys on the road again.

Should VR quit? Possibly.

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Velvet Revolver are ten times better than the Snakepit outfit, and if VR weren't around slash wouldn't be in the pit as he felt he was falling off the wagon again as members of the group were dabling in some heroin and what not, it was inevitable that slash and co would surface as a group but maybe not Guns n roses, i've lost interest in izzys work its to slow and plain, the river album was ok got bored after a while [/glow]
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« Reply #49 on: March 21, 2006, 11:44:39 AM »

Sure as hell hope not.  People may have been a little let down that there weren't some longer killer Slash solo's, but people, if they call it quits, IMO, there will be no rock bands. 

Sure everyonce  in a while a band will put a out a cathcy song, but that would be it, one song.

Some of the best songs on Contraband will never be played on the radio.

 
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« Reply #50 on: March 21, 2006, 03:11:08 PM »

Suckertrain Blues is an amzing song and if that doesn't quench some thirst for old G n' R, well that's as close as you are going to get.  Slither was an awesome single.  The slower stuff was certainly enjoyable, maybe not groundbreaking for some but still.  I could argue that November Rain was an overproduced, over the top, wimpy song.  It's all preference, but Contraband was pretty good for a rookie album.  I would think more people would be encouraged for them to take a second crack at it. 

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« Reply #51 on: March 21, 2006, 04:17:58 PM »

Contraband was pretty good for a rookie album

Yeah, I mean, rookie albums can't be that good--- *remembers Appetite for Destruction*. Oh wait... Undecided
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« Reply #52 on: March 21, 2006, 04:48:03 PM »

Personally I think the band now calling itself Guns N Roses should call it quits ok
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« Reply #53 on: March 21, 2006, 05:42:40 PM »

That has basically already happened. Several times.
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« Reply #54 on: March 21, 2006, 05:48:02 PM »

That has basically already happened. Several times.

i meant permanently, not in the middle of a show or otur hihi
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« Reply #55 on: March 21, 2006, 05:50:12 PM »

That has basically already happened. Several times.

i meant permanently, not in the middle of a show or otur hihi

 rofl

Well, if this tour fails then they will be officially over, so, yeah, I don't know how to end this. Maybe a smily face!  Smiley
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« Reply #56 on: March 21, 2006, 06:54:09 PM »

Dude, if you are expecting another Appetite for Destruction then you are going to be disappointed.  And don't blame Weiland either because it's obvious the entire band is not interested in making another 'Appetite.'  Sorry.  They actually want to try new things.  Perish the thought! 
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« Reply #57 on: March 21, 2006, 11:02:40 PM »

according to slash, there's 10 songs with Izzy that are the best GnR album we'll never hear Cry
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« Reply #58 on: March 21, 2006, 11:06:13 PM »

according to slash, there's 10 songs with Izzy that are the best GnR album we'll never hear Cry

He's probably lying, Slash lies all the time apparently... rofl
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« Reply #59 on: March 22, 2006, 04:14:20 AM »

I'm not looking for another afd... That is regarded as one of the best rock albums in history.. So good chance about one in a million can make such an album.. I'm just looking for an energetic hard rocking album that kicks some ass.. COntraband did that for me, just give me a little more guitar solo.... if this was christopher walken, I'd want more cowbell
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