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Re: Life sucks, then you die...fact or fiction; and is there a God?
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Quote from: ClintroN on December 20, 2005, 04:43:26 AM
wanna know what i think anyway,
WE ARE IN HELL
think about it, we were sentenst to a planet where you can experience pain and tourcher, you may live a happy life or it could be disastrous, think about the worst possible thing that could happen to you!!
when were old and have been through the absolute worst, do you think weve sufferd enough?
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All of us are gonna go to heaven, 'cause weve already done enough time in hell.
IMO!!
I haven't heard that viewpoint of it before. Actually makes a bit of sense!
A buddy of mine summed it up best one night at the pub when he said, "in life, do what you want, and you will have a good life, whatever is after is a bonus."
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I think there is a life after death, everything we do in life we pay in life after we die, thats other history I hope is good one
Sorry people Im a dreamer
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Quote from: Blue Cut on December 20, 2005, 05:38:52 AM
I had a shitty day yesterday.
Then I found a pack of smokes, just when I was cursing when my ran out.
A sign?
I love when that happens dude
I was looking under the coach for $ to get smokes today, started doing my laundry and found half a pack.
Oh what a world...
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If you find a pack of empty cigs, that's a sign...
Do you really want to be 40, with yellow teeth, and stincky hair and clothes?
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Do you really want to be 40?
Nope not in the least. Hopefully this life ends at 30, 35 tops and then its on to the next one
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Do you really want to be 40?
Nope not in the least. Hopefully this life ends at 30, 35 tops and then its on to the next one
You know, people say "I hope I die before I get old," but if you were 25 and were told you had cancer, living to be 80 would look pretty good.
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Do you really want to be 40?
Nope not in the least. Hopefully this life ends at 30, 35 tops and then its on to the next one
You know, people say "I hope I die before I get old," but if you were 25 and were told you had cancer, living to be 80 would look pretty good.
Your right, it probably would. But I personally wanna die at an age at least close to the margin of youth, with a fully operational body that is grey hair free.
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Shit i hope to be 80 someday, As healthy as much as I work out, I plan on lookin good and getting around till the day I die.
If the day comes where I cant get out of bed and people have to change my diapers and stuff like that, then its time to go.
But I plan on stayin healthy and keepin a great body till the day I die.
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If the day comes where I cant get out of bed and people have to change my diapers and stuff like that, then its time to go.
But I plan on stayin healthy and keepin a great body till the day I die.
Couldnt have said it better if I tried
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Do you really want to be 40?
Nope not in the least. Hopefully this life ends at 30, 35 tops and then its on to the next one
I used to say that. But then I realized that life really started getting good at 30. Even better as I approach 35.
Should be balls to the wall awesome by the time I hit 40!
40 ain't nuthin' but a thang.........
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Do you really want to be 40?
Nope not in the least. Hopefully this life ends at 30, 35 tops and then its on to the next one
I used to say that. But then I realized that life really started getting good at 30. Even better as I approach 35.
Should be balls to the wall awesome by the time I hit 40!
40 ain't nuthin' but a thang.........
Im within a hair of being 20 soon. Once your 20 I hear the big mysterious doors of life start opening and I hope thats true because despite the careless alcohol and drug binges of being an older teen, you find yourself wanting more and the perfect girl to appraoch the big 3-0 with and hopefully beyond.
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Im within a hair of being 20 soon. Once your 20 I hear the big mysterious doors of life start opening and I hope thats true because despite the careless alcohol and drug binges of being an older teen, you find yourself wanting more and the perfect girl to appraoch the big 3-0 with and hopefully beyond.
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The difference between my wants and desires at that age and now seem like a universe away.
I can't tell you what mysteries will be solved, but I can tell you it only gets better. I can promise you that much.
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Quote from: AxlsMainMan on December 20, 2005, 07:50:16 PM
Im within a hair of being 20 soon. Once your 20 I hear the big mysterious doors of life start opening.....
Oooo i hope that's true, i was
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a month ago, nothing much has changed yet though....
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I'm hoping that the 30s are where its at.
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Life doesn't suck at all. ?It's pretty amazing actually. ?
You do die, that I'll give you. ?
And as for God, well I am not religious in any way. ?But I believe that something created all of this. ?It had to, right? ?I mean how else could you possibly explain this world or universe. ?It has to be created by something IMO. ?If you hold that to be undeniable, then you believe in some sort of god. ?That makes me agnostic I guess. ?But using religion as a middle man to get to god is something I am dead set against. ?I just think its silly to congregate with a bunch of people to pray, or to give hard earned money to a corrupt church. ?I think it is silly to believe that whatever created all of this has control over things now that they are set in motion. ?
When you see some plane go down off Miami and 3 infants die, that seem pretty clear to me that god, however you define it, doesn't control things here on a minute level.
Organized religion is responsible for more deaths, more war, more hatred spread then anything else on this planet in the past or in the present. ?That include muslims as we see in the world today, and it include christian as has been the case for centuries, and as far as I know it included dozens of other belief systems. ?I really don't care for religion. ?It is misused too often.
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Quote from: Charity Case on December 20, 2005, 08:54:14 PM
Life doesn't suck at all. ?It's pretty amazing actually. ?
You do die, that I'll give you. ?
And as for God, well I am not religious in any way. ?But I believe that something created all of this. ?It had to, right? ?I mean how else could you possibly explain this world or universe. ?It has to be created by something IMO. ?If you hold that to be undeniable, then you believe in some sort of god. ?That makes me agnostic I guess. ?But using religion as a middle man to get to god is something I am dead set against. ?I just think its silly to congregate with a bunch of people to pray, or to give hard earned money to a corrupt church. ?I think it is silly to believe that whatever created all of this has control over things now that they are set in motion. ?
When you see some plane go down off Miami and 3 infants die, that seem pretty clear to me that god, however you define it, doesn't control things here on a minute level.
Organized religion is responsible for more deaths, more war, more hatred spread then anything else on this planet in the past or in the present. ?That include muslims as we see in the world today, and it include christian as has been the case for centuries, and as far as I know it included dozens of other belief systems. ?I really don't care for religion. ?It is misused too often.
Well, that "Why do not god help if he is so powerful" that most people use is pretty much bullshit.
Most of the Christians, at least here in sweden think that God created earth and humans and everything that exists but not that he control things here on a minute level like you said.
But does god help out in the world at all? Yes, I think he does that a lot.
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Why did God let Nazi Germany, WWI, WWII, all wars and natural disasters take place?
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Why did God let Nazi Germany, WWI, WWII, all wars and natural disasters take place?
Why doesn't God stop all the suffering?
The first point to note is that God is definitely powerful. In fact, he has all power. So don't let anyone tell you that God simply isn't able to stop the suffering in the world.
The second point to note is that when people ask this question, they usually include pain, suffering caused by people to other people, and all kinds of "natural" disasters. The whole works. That's the assumption we'll make here.
This begs the question: if God is able to stop suffering, does that mean he doesn't want to? Not at all. In fact, there will come a time when God puts a stop to all evil. Obviously, that time has not yet come. In that case, the even bigger question is this: Why hasn't God put a stop to suffering and evil yet? What is he waiting for?
And the answer: He's waiting for as long as possible, to give as many people as possible the opportunity to make their peace with him. To put it another way:
"God is not slow about his promise, as some count slowness, but is patient towards you, not wanting anyone to perish, but wanting everyone to come to repentance"
That's the bottom line. God could quite easily put an end to all suffering and evil now. Instead, he's waiting to give all of us an opportunity to respond to him. In any case, what if God decided to stop all evil at 5 pm today. How many people would be left living at 5.01 pm?
http://www.krbc.org.uk/ans-god-stop-suffering.html
Personally i think that's bullshit but it's an explanation for you.....
....if he is waiting then he'll be waiting a LONG time
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Ah, I don't buy that at all. When people say, "you must accept Christ or go to hell," what about the billions of people in the world who are of another faith. If you are born in the middle-east, and are raised from birth to be a Muslin, and Christianity was the correct religion after all, how is it that persons fault? They were practicing the religion that they were born into. Just like if Islam (or any other religion) is the correct, true religion, all Christians are kinda screwed, aren't they?
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Why did God let Nazi Germany, WWI, WWII, all wars and natural disasters take place?
Why doesn't God stop all the suffering?
that process has been thought by Epicure 300 years or so before Jesus.
his demonstration cancels the existence of an Allmighty / All-good? god - therefore most organized religions' god -
i think god, or whatever you want to call it. is just You and your ambition. it's what you stand fore. what you believe in. what you like and what you hate. that's it. that's why you live.
RicharchNixon > and what you r talking about was brought firs by Denis Diderot (my favorite) as " and what will God do to the ones who didnt hear about his son, will he punish deafs for not hearing ? " ....
if there is somthing after life. then it doesnt matter, cause you're not there yet, and death is not your goal. if y ou wanna kill yourself then you can worry about what's after .... until then ... live.
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