Shine - COLLECTIVE SOUL TAB HELP !!

[RnT]

I NEVER found this tab song with the solo with on the net

NEED HELP! 

[RnT]

one more doubt... ( I know, Im lazy... )

the tune of this song that we play is EADGBe, I never did the solo because we only played this song acoustic... but now my band have one more guitarrist and I will play the solo, but is a different key from the original... and I?m in doubt how I?ll transport the solo to the key that we will play.... somebody help me with this one?

[RnT]

here?s the tabs that I found: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/c/collective_soul/shine_tab.htm

[*Izzy*]

Which part is the solo and what key do you want to play it in (and what tuning)?

[RnT]

I want to play this song in D(orE)ADGBe

the first verse is what I play ( the tune of the song is A ):

[Verse:Riff 1]
                               A
                         e-|----------------------------------------|
                         B-|----------------------------------------|
    * ----->         G-|----------------------------------------|
                         D-|--9h11------11-----9------6-h7-p6--7----|    G D
                         A-|--0-(0)------0-----0------0-(0)(0)-0----|
                         E-|----------------------------------------|
                                  Give me a word / Give me   a     sign


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forget about the second tab at that site
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on the third version down there is where are the solo, BUT I think the solo is based in a D tune:
( is the right tab, because is the original tune, but my band plays in a A tune*,


E|----------------------------------|------------------------------------|--
B|----------------------------------|------------------------------------|--
G|-7h9------9----7----5-5-0-5---5-0-|-7h9--9-9-9---9/12---0-5-0-7-0-9-0--|--
D|-0----0-0-0--0-0-0--0-0-0-0---0-0-|-0----0-0-0---0--0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0--|--
A|----------------------------------|------------------------------------|--
E|----------------------------------|------------------------------------|--


so, I want to put the solo ( in the end of that page ) in a D(orE)ADGBe... get it? 

[*Izzy*]

I don't think it's in a different key

Play this in EADGBE

-|-----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|--
-|-------10----10--------|-10---10---------10----|-12-10---12-10---12-10-|--
-|-------10----10--------|-10---10---------10----|-12-10---12-10---12-10-|--
-|-10-12----12-----10-12-|----12-----10-12----12-|-------12------12------|--
-|-----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|--
-|-----------------------|-----------------------|-----------------------|--
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/\/\/\/
-|-----------------------|------------------------------------------------|--
-|----12--10-------------|------------------------------------------------|--
-|-12-12--10----10-------|---------------------------------------10-------|--
-|-12--------12----------|-----------------------10--10h12-10h12----12----|--
-|-------------------12\-|-------10--10h12p10h12---12---------------------|--
-|-----------------------|--10h13--12-------------------------------------|--
                     ? ?..................
-|---------------------------10------13p10h13h15p10h13--13-bfull----------13-
-|------------10--10h13-10h13--13-10-------------------(13)bf----------------
-|-10h12-10h12--12-----------------------------------------------------------
-|---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-|---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-|---------------------------------------------------------------------------
....?
-|-13--(13)---10-----10\------------------------13---------15bf(15)---------|-
-|---------------13--------------------13---15------15-13------------13--15-|-
-|-------------------------13---13-13---------------------------------------|-
-|--------------------------x-----------------------------------------------|-
-|--------------------------------------------------------------------------|-
-|--------------------------------------------------------------------------|-

-|-13-------------15bf(15)-------|--------------15fb(15)------|--------------
-|-----15-13-15------------13-15-|-15-13-15-15----------13-15-|--------------
-|-------------------------------|----------------------------|--------------
-|-------------------------------|----------------------------|--------------
-|-------------------------------|----------------------------|--------------
-|-------------------------------|----------------------------|--------------

-|--------------16p13-15p-15----13-------|------------------------------------
-|--15-13-15-13--------------15----15p13-|-14p13----13------------------------
-|---------------------------------------|-------14----14-12-14p13\10h12p10---
-|---------------------------------------|------------------------------------
-|---------------------------------------|------------------------------------
-|---------------------------------------|------------------------------------
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? hold...........?
-------------------|----------------------|---------------------------------|-
-------------------|----13----------------|---------------10----------------|-
--------------12bf-|-------1212fb(12)--10-|---------------10----------------|-
---12-x-12-10------|----------------------|---12---12--12-----10---12-------|-
-------------------|----------------------|---------------------------------|-
-------------------|----------------------|---------------------------------|-

-|-----------------------------|
-|--12b?------------10---------|
-|--12b?--10--------10---------|
-|------------12-12-----12--10-|
-|-----------------------------|
-|-----------------------------|


And play these power chords underneath

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-5
-5
-7
-

-
-
-3
-3
-5
-

-
-
-
-5
-5
-3

All those chords have A note so it should work

[RnT]

no, the chords underneath the solo have to be A then G then D, that?s why this solo will have to change (transport), couse the chords underneath the solo in that tab is D then C than G... get it?

[Oddy]

the solos in d minor pentatonic. (for the most part)

just transpose it to a minor pentatonic.

simply shift the whole solo down 5 frets.

so you'd use the

5 8
5 8
5 7
5 7
5 7
5 8

pattern for the first part and yeah you get the idea.

is that what you're asking?

[RnT]

I?m trying to understand the whole thing you just said dude  ( I?m from Brazil, not so good in english )

[Oddy]

ok i'll try and say it simpler.

move the whole solo down 5 frets.

see the first few notes in the original are the 10th and 12th fret?

that will become the 5th and 7th fret. you need to do that for every note in the solo.

just shift it all down 5 frets.

[RnT]

I tho about it dude, but I realized that the solo won?t be "that" good just transporting all the notes 5 frets down, you know? of course the right thing to do is that, but all the highest notes on the solo will be 5 frets down, so won?t be that "higher" the solos in the G, B and e ... I want to find a way to keep the solo there, trying to use the same notes but not transporting ALL the notes 5 frets down... get it?

I think I will have to elaborate other solo

[*Izzy*]

Start the solo on the 12th fret of the G string, it's easy enough to figure out

[RnT]

so how it goes?