UPDATE FROM IZZY - The dog is being cut loose

[boston]

Still no CD, Still no website ?


And yea ,I too hate Scott for those comments
and place some of the blame of Izzy leaving on Him

[Doc Emmett Brown]

No ideas of Izzy are on Contraband.

But I'm not the only person who thinks that 'Bomb' sounds like a Contraband song.  Even you said that in the other Izzy thread  : "Yeah it does, maybe it's from Izzy's time with VR. But Bomb sounds better!" -- IzzyDutch.

I think CB was just mixed 'differently' from LAD so that's why CB sounds more like modern rock whereas LAD sounds like hard rock n' roll.

And just to emphasize in bold, IN NO WAY am I implying something negative about my perceived similarities between CB and LAD.  I think it's great that Izzy hangs out with Slash & Duff and got them started on their album! So dont take it the wrong way, pleeze...

Also, I dont understand Scott saying that Izzy's material was too "classic".  When I think of "classic" - I think of a 1970's style album, and LAD does NOT sound like a 70's album!  It's definitely rock n roll, but with an updated touch.  I think it's cool, and Izzy has these awesome vocal melodies throughout. Like the part in SNAFU where he sings about cocaine - his melodies are addictive 

Izzy contributed something to Contraband?

I meant in an unofficial sense.  I gathered as much from the various VR articles that Jarmo has on this site.  For example:

"And then he [Izzy] called up right when we were in the midst of writing, and he actually came over and brought a couple of songs with him. And then we just started hanging out and jamming"  -- Slash from http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=73

Anyway, I wish CB had been produced/mixed the same way that LAD was.

[IzzyDutch]

I would like to know about the interviews when Scott talked about Izzy, please Izzy Dutch

and Yes I agree LAD is way way better than Contraband. A real underrated album.

http://vr.belowempty.com/articles/2003/031101_Guitar_World_Magazine.php


While Kushner's predeliction for Fernandes guitars, Bogner heads and a whole arsenal of Line 6 and Boss pedals might seem at odds with Slash's Les Paul-into-Marshall approach, the two guitarists quickly meshed. But when Izzy Stradlin suddenly started showing up at rehearsals, Kushner began to wonder if his days in the band were numbered. "Izzy just came out of nowhere, as Izzy does," Slash says, laughing. "Poor Dave. Izzy's sitting there, this ominous presence, and Dave's thinkin', That's the original guitarist from Guns N' Roses. Am I still gonna have a job? But we're real loyal people. It wasn't like, 'Hey, Dave, we're gonna work on some songs with Izzy; call us back in a couple of weeks!' When Izzy was there, we just played with three guitarists."

Stradlin hung out and jammed with his old mates for several weeks, but Slash and McKagan both say there was never any real possibility of their old guitarist joining their new band. "The Izzy thing probably got misconstrued a little bit," says McKagan. "I think he wanted to come in, like, `Let's go out on tour right away! I've got eight songs, let's go! We'll do some covers; Duff and I will sing!' [laughs] But Matt and Slash and I were more like, 'If we're gonna do this, we're gonna have to do it so it's amazing.' I've heard a lot of fans saying, 'Why don't you have Izzy in the band now?' Well, this isn't cut out for him; he's more of a guy who will be here one day and be gone the next, and you won't know where he's gone to. But he added a new energy that we probably needed at that point." "You have to understand our relationship with Izzy," Slash explains. "Izzy's always been the guy who's sort of there and sort of not there. Duff and I have seen Izzy periodically; I've played on his records a couple of times, and Duff has done the same thing. And then he called up right when we were in the midst of writing, and he actually came over and brought a couple of songs with him. And then we just started hanging out and jamming, and we wrote, like, 10 or so songs. It was just a lot of fun, but he didn't want to deal with the fuckin' long haul at all. As soon as we started to physically audition singers, we didn't see him again." Slash laughs. "He's so fucking shattered from his experience [with Axl] that he refuses to ever do anything involving a singer again!"

"The first CD that Slash gave me had a lot of music that Izzy had written with them, and it was a lot more classic-based," Weiland remembers. "I wasn't as excited about that stuff, you know? But when I got the next batch of songs, it was like, `Okay, there's a handful of songs in here that I definitely feel I can wrap my head around.' And one of the riffs was the 'Set Me Free' riff. It reminded me of a cross between a classic STP thing and a classic GN'R track. I think it was a good song for us to start with - not pushing the envelope too much. You couldn't come out with something too 'out there' or people would be like, `This doesn't make sense!'"

[IzzyDutch]

No ideas of Izzy are on Contraband.

But I'm not the only person who thinks that 'Bomb' sounds like a Contraband song.? Even you said that in the other Izzy thread? : "Yeah it does, maybe it's from Izzy's time with VR. But Bomb sounds better!" -- IzzyDutch.

I think CB was just mixed 'differently' from LAD so that's why CB sounds more like modern rock whereas LAD sounds like hard rock n' roll.
And just to emphasize in bold, IN NO WAY am I implying something negative about my perceived similarities between CB and LAD.? I think it's great that Izzy hangs out with Slash & Duff and got them started on their album! So dont take it the wrong way, pleeze...

Also, I dont understand Scott saying that Izzy's material was too "classic".? When I think of "classic" - I think of a 1970's style album, and LAD does NOT sound like a 70's album!? It's definitely rock n roll, but with an updated touch.? I think it's cool, and Izzy has these awesome vocal melodies throughout. Like the part in SNAFU where he sings about cocaine - his melodies are addictive?

Yeah it does sound much alike, but I think it's more of a co?ncidence.  I don't know... here's what Slash said about DIFTK:

http://vr.belowempty.com/articles/2004/040701_Guitarist_Magazine.php

Do It for the Kids

Dirty rock riff, melodic chorus and a nippy solo
Sample lyric: "Went too fast I'm out of luck/ And I don't even give a fuck"
"That's another riff I brought in and that one was re-hashed by the whole band. It started out with this Middle Eastern vibe but it took on a different light when Scott started singing it so we changed some things around. In the end we took all those bits out and left in the hard parts. It's totally straight Les Paul/Marshall (when Slash says Marshall, he's referring to three Marshall heads blended; his Slash Signature Series model, a mid-eighties JCM800 with 65/50 output tubes and a 1973/1987 model four-input non-master volume head in to a Marshall 100W cabinet). Even the solo is with my regular rhythm sound. It's a fast solo but real clean with no distortion or gain. It's my regular everyday sound."

Izzy has got some great vocal melodies yeah, especially on Bomb and Hell Song he sounds awesome I think Scott thought that Izzy's stuff sounded to much like GN'R and therefore he didn't choose the music.

[boston]

Screw Scott,
 this was never about him,
 it was GNR without Axl,
 till he came along
and fucked it up

[Carlos_f_Rose]

I would say Scott weiland is cool, but I dont blame him for anything cause I know original gunners will someday gather together again, so its not a problem... Slash and the guys would rejoin again at anytime, but Axl he planned all for so many years that will result harder for him to join with his "other friends" again, its sad specially for his relationship with Izzy, and the Izzy - Slash duet... that was cool.

[boston]

I finally got my copy

good stuuf

happy to know it does not sound like VR

sounds like Izzy, a little more upbeat, and a little louder than usual

now I need the site back for the cover and all

[IzzyDutch]

You can get the covers on the Izzy forum aswell, www.beenafix.com/forum

[boston]

thanks,

but, I could only find the back cover on the forum
do you know anywhere it is posted that I overlooked?

[badapple81]

Still waiting on mine.. hopefully this week.

Edit: Received, sounds cool so far!

[robert32]

Alright guys, received Like A Dog a couple of days ago.  Took 5-6 weeks.  Not bad I suppose, considering I live in Scotland.

Really good album, no weak tracks at all.  Highlight is undoubtedly track 9: "On The Run".  Although it is, in fact, not a cover of the Pink Floyd instrumental, it is a classic nevertheless.  It has a slight twinge of the Stone Roses about it, really cool.

Very much worth getting your hands on, for those who haven't already placed an order.  The album could maybe do with a couple of more emotional or acoustic tracks (a la Sweet Caress, Got Some News), but otherwise it's a really good effort.

Let's get a petition going for the Izzy/Slash album to get released, together with the Iz's latest solo effort that was recorded earlier this year.


Rob.

[IzzyDutch]

Izzy is suposenly working on a deal at the moment to get his newest album released.

[Doc Emmett Brown]

If Izzy scores a proper record deal for his next album.....then he'll have to tour behind it right?? 

I've said it before but I'll say it again.  This album is wonderful to listen to when you're driving.  The feeling from this album of being free, running/driving fast, feeling the wind on your face. 

[IzzyDutch]

If Izzy scores a proper record deal for his next album.....then he'll have to tour behind it right???

Not really, I don't think he ever will go on tour again. The last tour in 2000 (Ride On in Japan) was more or less anounced as the "farewell tour".

This probably also the reason why he has had some trouble finding record deals. He doesn't care about record sales, he doesn't want to tour and do any promotion of it. The touring is probably cause he likes the freedom and doesn't want any commitment or hassle with it. He wants to go where ever he goes whenever he wants to. I think we might see him guesting with VR or AA a show or two though. The Ride On and On Down The Road deals where distribution deals only in Japan and with River in 2001 he had some friends at the record label.

He had trouble finding a good deal in 2003 with Like A Dog, it probably costed him to much time and hassle that he said forget it. I don't think that he actually realized how many people are listening to his albums and want to hear his stuff. I think the petition of LAD was kind of a wake up call and he basically got rid of the promo copies for the fans. He also said that he was thinking about some cool give-away stuff if this whole LAD thing turned out to be fun. So maybe more unreleased material.

I've said it before but I'll say it again.  This album is wonderful to listen to when you're driving.  The feeling from this album of being free, running/driving fast, feeling the wind on your face. 

Amen This album has some classic songs on it..

[Izzy]

If Izzy scores a proper record deal for his next album.....then he'll have to tour behind it right???

Not really, I don't think he ever will go on tour again. The last tour in 2000 (Ride On in Japan) was more or less anounced as the "farewell tour".

This probably also the reason why he has had some trouble finding record deals. He doesn't care about record sales, he doesn't want to tour and do any promotion of it. The touring is probably cause he likes the freedom and doesn't want any commitment or hassle with it. He wants to go where ever he goes whenever he wants to. I think we might see him guesting with VR or AA a show or two though. The Ride On and On Down The Road deals where distribution deals only in Japan and with River in 2001 he had some friends at the record label.

He had trouble finding a good deal in 2003 with Like A Dog, it probably costed him to much time and hassle that he said forget it. I don't think that he actually realized how many people are listening to his albums and want to hear his stuff. I think the petition of LAD was kind of a wake up call and he basically got rid of the promo copies for the fans. He also said that he was thinking about some cool give-away stuff if this whole LAD thing turned out to be fun. So maybe more unreleased material.

I've said it before but I'll say it again.? This album is wonderful to listen to when you're driving.? The feeling from this album of being free, running/driving fast, feeling the wind on your face.?

Amen This album has some classic songs on it..

after all he could always just make albums directly for the fans and just release the stuff directly onto the internet....

[IzzyDutch]

Yep, he has sended three signed copies of LAD directly to Will so it would be easy to send another few cd's

[Eugene Klein]

Highlight is undoubtedly track 9: "On The Run".?

That song could work as the sequel for Jump In Now.

He also said that he was thinking about some cool give-away stuff if this whole LAD thing turned out to be fun. So maybe more unreleased material.

I'm crossing my fingers for more unreleased stuff from his basement.

[IzzyDutch]

From the beenafix.com forum:

Got this this morning...
hey guys,my friend set up paypal for like a dog.........................20 us dollars to www.scootersteez.com? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?thanks,izzy.............

Ordering info (izzy.34sp.com is offline temporary but ordering page is retrieved thanks to boston)

http://geocities.com/DIYTELEVISION/likeadog.htm

[Sakib]

i wonder if the Hell Song is the cover of a SUM 41 song

[IzzyDutch]

It's not a cover, one of the best on the album, very groove based. You can read the lyrics on the solo albums by ex GN'R section of the site.