The Bill O'Reilly thread

[sandman]

i've noticed alot of people like to talk about BO, so i figured we should have a thread dedicated to him.

more importantly, i wanted to point out that Howard Stern - the King of all Media - enters the No Spin Zone on Wednesday and Thursday.

should be interesting. i hope i remember to watch.

[RichardNixon]

Oh God, sweet Jesus, I FUCKING HATE BILL O'REILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you.

[Booker Floyd]

I could say a lot in this thread...and I more than likely will, but right now Ill just give one example of his dishonesty:

"If the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush administration again." - Bill O'Reilly (3/18/03)

Well, obviously an apology to the nation was in order, and O'Reilly is a man of his word...

"My analysis was wrong and I'm sorry. I was wrong. I'm not pleased about it at all.  I am much more skeptical of the Bush administration now than I was at that time." - Bill O'Reilly (2/10/04)

...Actually, hes not.  He said on national TV "I will not trust the Bush administration again."  You would think a guy with as much integrity as O'Reilly would stand behind that pledge.  Well, O'Reillys not so much a man of integrity as he is a wormy equivicator.  "More skeptical" than he "was at that time" isnt the same thing, and its not delivering on his disingenuous pledge. 

While Im at it, let me add another example:

At the BookExpo America conference (which you can probably watch on C-Spans website), Bill O'Reilly spoke about the noble principles under which he operates: "I dont call people names...I dont call anybody a liar.  Im not doing that.  Im trying to elevate the discourse....I dont call people big, fat idiots."

30 minutes later?

"Hey SHUT UP!  You had your thirty-five minutes." 

"SHUT UP!"

"We're supposed to be on here for 15 minutes and this idiot goes 35."

And lets not forget Bill "I Dont Call People Names" 'O'Reillys greatest achievements in discourse elevation:

"These pin-heads running around going, ?Get out of Iraq now? don?t know what they are talking about. These are the same people before Hitler invaded in WWII that were saying, ?He?s not such a bad guy.? They don?t get it."  This, obviously, in reference to 37 year veteran Jack Murtha. 

"You got me at 8 o'clock. And everybody knows I was tryin' to be fair to Kerry. You got [Sean] Hannity who thinks Kerry's the devil, and [Alan] Colmes who thinks Kerry is St. Francis of Assisi. They're at 9. So, one guy doesn't like him the other guy loves him. And then, you got [Greta] Van Sustren at 10, whose husband worked for Kerry. Raised money for him. Okay? Do the math. "FOX News attacked me" -- aw, you're a -- he's a sissy. He's a sissy. I knew it when he couldn't throw the ball at Fenway Park -- he's a sissy. You're a sissy."  You would think that as a member of the network, O'Reilly would be aware of the fact that the network actually runs programming outside of its 8-10pm lineup. 

"If you attack someone publicly, as these men did to me, you have an obligation to face the person you are smearing. If you don't, you are a coward."  Especially interesting, since O'Reilly has strongly attacked the folks at Media Matters, calling them "the most vile, despicable human beings in the country."  So adhering to O'Reillys own principle, he has an obligation to face somebody from Media Matters, correct?  No.  Apparently, O'Reillys a coward.  "O'Reilly has repeatedly attacked Media Matters while refusing Media Matters President and CEO David Brock's request to appear on The O'Reilly Factor." - MediaMatters.org

And the list of false, misleading and simply inane statements is virtually endless.  Ill probably share some examples later.

Howard Stern was great quite a few years ago.  The state of his show now is just depressing, but thats for another thread.

[RichardNixon]

Did you see the move "Outfoxed"? When he was picking a fight and bullying that poor kid who lost his dad? He's a total and comeplete asshole, a spineless bastard. True vermon.

[sandman]

i love the hatred you people have towards this guy.

do you or have you watched his show on a regular basis?

[sandman]

i've checked out his show a few times recently and all he ever talks about is the war on xmas. it's a little annoying, but i have to agree with him on it.



The humbugs strike back on Christmas: that is the subject of this evening's "Talking Points Memo."

As you most likely know, there is a very small minority of Americans who want Christmas out of the public square, but they've made big inroads into America's most revered tradition.

However, Christmas is making a come back. Some companies who used to avoid saying "Merry Christmas" have reversed themselves. And all over the country, lawsuits are being filed to keep Christmas on public display.

That's not playing well in the secular progressive movement, which wants to diminish Christmas and all vestiges of Christian power. The SPs realize that to get gay marriage, legalized drugs, euthanasia, and other parts of their agenda passed, they need to marginalize religious forces. That is what is behind the assault on Christmas in the USA.

Over the weekend, some liberal newspapers stepped up to the plate. The Baltimore Sun said, "Groups such as the ACLU and Americans United for Separation of Church and State say Christmas is under no threat from them or anyone else."

Well, that's reassuring! Thank you, Baltimore Sun!

The Richmond Times Dispatch editorialized, "To hear some voices ? Bill O'Reilly's, for instance ? Christmas lies under siege. To refer to Christmas vacation as 'winter break' in no way demeans the occasion."

Of course not, Richmond Times. Not calling Christmas vacation Christmas vacation doesn't demean it at all.

But the absolute best comes from the most enthusiastic secular newspaper in the country, The New York Times, our pals. Editorial writer Adam Cohen, who never met a secular cause he didn't like writes, "The Christmas that Mr. O'Reilly and his allies are promoting -- one closely aligned by retailers, with a smackdown attitude toward nonobservers fits their campaign to make America more like a theocracy, with Christian displays on public property and Christian prayer in public schools."

Of course, Mr. Cohen has no idea what he's talking about. I don't have a smackdown attitude toward nonobservers. They can do what they want. I don't care. I don't want a theocracy. And I don't want Christian prayers in public schools.

But Mr. Cohen is not interested in the truth. He wants to demonize. He wants Americans to believe this whole Christmas campaign is to promote Christianity.

What "Talking Points" is really promoting is respect, respect for a holiday that's celebrated by 95 percent of Americans. It's insane to diminish Christmas. It's also wrong.

Most Americans love this federal holiday and they don't want it tarnished by nutty far left fanatics. Get that, Adam?

More than 100,000 of you voted in our billoreilly.com poll, which asks, will you shop at stores that do not say `Merry Christmas'? 81 percent said no. Nineteen percent said yes.

So the secular progressives are going to lose the fight. But as I said, they're not happy about it. And they'll do what they always, attack.

And that's "The Memo."

[SLCPUNK]

Did you see the move "Outfoxed"? When he was picking a fight and bullying that poor kid who lost his dad? He's a total and comeplete asshole, a spineless bastard. True vermon.

Great movie, and they really show what is behind fox, and O'reilly.

[SLCPUNK]

LIAR LIAR.......


Continuing his fight against the "war on Christmas," O'Reilly falsely claimed year-old Daily Show clip aired previous night

On the December 2 broadcasts of his Fox News talk show The O'Reilly Factor and his Westwood One radio show The Radio Factor, Bill O'Reilly played a year-old clip from Comedy Central's The Daily Show with Jon Stewart to demonstrate an assault on Christmas by secular forces. However, he told his radio listeners the clip aired the day before.


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There is nothing more important to worry about than whether a privately owned retail store decides to wish everyone a merry christmas or a happy holidays? Some people need to get a life and find something really worth squabling over, youself included Sandman.

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

i'm french, i gotta love o'reilly

[sandman]

LIAR LIAR.......


Continuing his fight against the "war on Christmas," O'Reilly falsely claimed year-old Daily Show clip aired previous night

On the December 2 broadcasts of his Fox News talk show The O'Reilly Factor and his Westwood One radio show The Radio Factor, Bill O'Reilly played a year-old clip from Comedy Central's The Daily Show with Jon Stewart to demonstrate an assault on Christmas by secular forces. However, he told his radio listeners the clip aired the day before.


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There is nothing more important to worry about than whether a privately owned retail store decides to wish everyone a merry christmas or a happy holidays? Some people need to get a life and find something really worth squabling over, youself included Sandman.

YOU are telling me to get a life. that's hilarious. 

but i shouldn't be surprised since you regularly insult other posters on this board. yet you criticize o'reilly for attacking people. kinda hypocritical. keep us posted on your efforts to save the world.

and if you had read my post you would have seen that i said his crusade is "annoying".


anyway, back on topic...i think it's interesting that a religious holiday is recognized as a federal holiday. i'm sure that drives some secularists crazy and they'd love to change it.

[SLCPUNK]

anyway, back on topic...i think it's interesting that a religious holiday is recognized as a federal holiday. i'm sure that drives some secularists crazy and they'd love to change it.

That is the point. Nobody cares.

It's a non issue brought up by a blowhard for dipshits to get all worked up about.

And it works.

[pilferk]

anyway, back on topic...i think it's interesting that a religious holiday is recognized as a federal holiday. i'm sure that drives some secularists crazy and they'd love to change it.

I'm sure there are some...but, given what's transpired, I don't think there are many.

The fact is, O'Reilly is taking a relatively minor issue, and doing what he does best:  Spinning it to get his audience into a foaming, snarling, panicy state of hysteria.

I did find some of what he said pretty darn funny, considering how much hypocricy was dripping from it.

[sandman]

anyway, back on topic...i think it's interesting that a religious holiday is recognized as a federal holiday. i'm sure that drives some secularists crazy and they'd love to change it.

I'm sure there are some...but, given what's transpired, I don't think there are many.

The fact is, O'Reilly is taking a relatively minor issue, and doing what he does best:? Spinning it to get his audience into a foaming, snarling, panicy state of hysteria.

I did find some of what he said pretty darn funny, considering how much hypocricy was dripping from it.

i think it is an interesting church/state issue.

i watched 5 minutes of his show the last 4 or 5 nights and i swore i was watching reruns. not very entertaining.

[pilferk]

i think it is an interesting church/state issue.

i watched 5 minutes of his show the last 4 or 5 nights and i swore i was watching reruns. not very entertaining.

How interesting Bill is on any given night seems to have more to do with his guest than anything else.

I find the X-mas thing to be sort of boring, and overdone.  Hell, HE'S given the movement more publicity than almost anyone else has....

[mikegiuliana]

I watch bill just for the fucking hell of it.. It's entertaining at best.. He's a fucking one sided asshole.. Whatever he feels is right is the only way.. When someone has him beat he just argues with no fucking point.. As I said interesting show but the man is to set in his ways as the only ways

I would love to see stern on his show, that would be awesome

[D]

I like O Reilly but because I like him that doesnt mean I agree with everything he says or does.

I like the work he does on his show to try and get things done for example "Jessica's Law" is great, I like his stand on the border issue.

I dont really care about the merry X-mas thing though, honestly I dont give a shit whether someone says happy holidays or merry christmas.

To me if someone says Happy Holidays that is just a quick way to say Merry Christmas,Happy Hanukah,Quanza *SP* whatever.

So on that issue I dont care and disagree with O Reilly.


The kid he told to shut up was because I think, Correct me if im wrong but Im sure that kid came on their sayin stuff like Bush caused 9/11 and shit like that which is why O Reilly told him to shut up. I could be wrong though, but Im almost sure thats why.


I dont agree with O Reilly on the Utah law that kids under the age of 16 should be charged as felons if they have sex. That to me is ridiculous.

Two 13 year olds having sex isnt a felony and shouldnt be classified the same as murderers or rapists.


I do like O Reilly though, His show is entertaining and I like the fact that he believes what he believes and doesnt aplogize for it.

I admire and respect anyone who sticks their neck out and tries to do good with his platform.

So I can overlook the negative of OReilly and focus on all the good he does.

If u stick anyone under a microscope u are gonna find hypocrisies and other kinds of stuff, So im not gonna penalize Oreilly for a few instances of that.

[Booker Floyd]

Correct me if im wrong but Im sure that kid came on their sayin stuff like Bush caused 9/11 and shit like that

Ill correct you: No, he didnt.  But that didnt stop O'Reilly from lying about it numerous times since.

[SLCPUNK]

Correct me if im wrong but Im sure that kid came on their sayin stuff like Bush caused 9/11 and shit like that

Ill correct you: No, he didnt.  But that didnt stop O'Reilly from lying about it numerous times since.

This has been addressed with him already too.........

[D]

People make mistakes though and I just dont condemn O reilly for every thing he has done wrong.

I dont see people hating on Dan Rather and CBS news for their errors which were way more prominent than O Reilly's.

One can say CBS news helped Bush win the election by reporting inaccurate and false information. I think a lot of voters on the fence saw that and it may have swayed a lot of them.

Im simply stating that when u do as many shows as he does, sooner or later you are gonna make a mistake, u are gonna goof up, but Im not gonna stop liking someone over that.

if that were the case Id never watch anything on TV and Id have no friends.

Just like The SF thing, that was clearly satire but yet Left Wing websites posted it as if he were being serious, took every single thing out of context and tried to make him look bad.

Thats why anything negative being said about O Reilly, Id have to see the ENTIRE thing with my two eyes and hear it as well.

Cause anything can be manipulated into something else.

[Booker Floyd]

People make mistakes though and I just dont condemn O reilly for every thing he has done wrong.

Its not a mistake.? Hes lying.

I dont see people hating on Dan Rather and CBS news for their errors which were way more prominent than O Reilly's.

 

Were you of present mind last fall?? Then I imagine you saw some people "hating on" Dan Rather and CBS...it was a great distraction from the actual content of the story.

Im simply stating that when u do as many shows as he does, sooner or later you are gonna make a mistake, u are gonna goof up, but Im not gonna stop liking someone over that.

 

I dont think youre getting it.? These arent little goof-ups.? These are principles espoused by an extremely sanctimonious man that he contradicts on a regular basis.

Just like The SF thing, that was clearly satire but yet Left Wing websites posted it as if he were being serious, took every single thing out of context and tried to make him look bad.

Again, I have to point out that you seem to buy everything he says and regurgitate it almost verbatim.?

"And if Al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we're not going to do anything about it. We're going to say, look, every other place in America is off limits to you, except San Francisco. You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead. "? What is even satirical about this?? Bill O'Reilly isnt clever...in fact, hes proven himself to be witless when it comes to humor.? To chalk this up as satire is pathetic at best.

Tell me then, what was the point behind his "satire?"? By stating that we should refuse helping San Francisco after a terrorist attack (hilarious!), what is he "suggesting?"? It certainly sounds like hes suggesting that San Francisco shouldnt be eligble for help in the wake of a terrorist attack.? So maybe you can explain where the "satire" kicks in instead of simply parroting his talking points.

Perhaps the most telling thing about O'Reillys brilliant satire is when he explained the controversey a few days later.? He fearlessly played the audio of his comments (from his radio show)...but cut it off right before it got to the actual controversial statements about terrorists attacking SF, ambiguously saying "...and then I went on to do a satirical riff."? If you dont understand that thats the most flagrant example of intellectual dishonesty and disingenuousness...then you just might be a "Kool Aid drinker."? He didnt have the integrity to honestly address his audience by allowing them to hear his controversial statements.? Instead, he hid them.? And when his guest pointed that out, O'Reilly angrily snarled "Yes, we have the whole -- we can't play the whole thing. It's five minutes long. And anybody can hear it on billoreilly.com."? The entire clip was one minute and nine seconds and he probably played 40 seconds of it.? And while he bravely used the excuse to plug his website once again, I think most recognize that its not the same as actually playing it for his television audience.

Of course the irony of the whole thing is that O'Reilly is Mr. Put It To A Vote.? Ive heard him champion the idea of "letting the people decide" many times, but he then "satirically" encourages terrorist attacks on cities that dont vote to his liking.

Thats why anything negative being said about O Reilly, Id have to see the ENTIRE thing with my two eyes and hear it as well.

MediaMatters.org.? Each story is accompanied by actual video and audio.? Of course this is what O'Reilly deems an "extreme Left-Wing smear site," and I believe he actually credits them for his need for physical security.? Thats right...by posting up audio/video clips and pointing out factual inaccuracies/general ridiculousness, theyre endangering his safety.  Then again, this is the same man who says were in "World War 3" and is fighting the "War Against Christmas."