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« on: December 01, 2005, 04:29:05 PM »

...   smoking  ok, I know other persons have posted something like these lines before but I?m so sure other ones haven't had the chance to read this to express their own opinions!!!!...so the thing is:

1)Why did Axl come back to the show business speakin? 'bout a rare country like CHINA after all this fucking time?
2)Why does Axl feel a special sentiment 'bout the Chinese culture these days when he didn't give a damn 'bout the Chinese people from the start?
3)Although Axl didn't say a word ?bout CHINA for a weird reason the guy?s been attracted by that culture a long long time ago?

?well folks you might have the right answer ?.so let us know then!!!!   Grin
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2005, 04:32:38 PM »

China will soon take over as the world's number one nation. smoking
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2005, 04:32:52 PM »

I think it's cuz he watched a movie about Chinese Politics or something and he was intrigued so he researched about it.

Not to get famous. I'm not sure but i think he already is famous Roll Eyes
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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2005, 04:33:51 PM »

Maybe he relates China's past with his own life in some way?
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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2005, 04:34:16 PM »

It's because he's a communist

Don't you know?
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« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2005, 04:36:41 PM »

1. China is not rare.
2. Lots of peeps like China. I love the chinese buffet down the street.
3. Who says he's attracted to the culture. CHINESE DEMOCRACY.... has to do with communisn and all that shit. rant


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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2005, 04:48:34 PM »

Are you jealousy, Ven? Do you think he should care more about Venezuela?
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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2005, 04:50:58 PM »

Maybe Tina Chan (is this name correct Huh) is Chinese and cute?
Maybe he's into kung fu movies?
Maybe the past regression therapy finally reminded him that he was originally the Monkey king?

It's because he's a communist

Don't you know?

No. I 'm sure it's has nothing to do with the ideology.
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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2005, 05:11:25 PM »

1. China is not rare.
2. Lots of peeps like China. I love the chinese buffet down the street.
3. Who says he's attracted to the culture. CHINESE DEMOCRACY.... has to do with communisn and all that shit. rant


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Wow, thats like the 7 degrees of Kevin Bacon.  Bravo! Grin
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« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2005, 05:19:32 PM »

Axl stated in the Loder interview that he picked the name Chinese Democracy because he thought it sounded cool.  There is no great mystery behind the name choice.
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« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2005, 05:21:20 PM »

...? ?smoking? ok, I know other persons have posted something like these lines before but I?m so sure other ones haven't had the chance to read this to express their own opinions!!!!...so the thing is:

1)Why did Axl come back to the show business speakin? 'bout a rare country like CHINA after all this fucking time?
2)Why does Axl feel a special sentiment 'bout the Chinese culture these days when he didn't give a damn 'bout the Chinese people from the start?
3)Although Axl didn't say a word ?bout CHINA for a weird reason the guy?s been attracted by that culture a long long time ago?

?well folks you might have the right answer ?.so let us know then!!!! ? Grin
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You know there doesnt have to be a special meaning behind everything he writes, says, or names. ?And if there is im sure we will find out when the album comes out. ? ?Oh by the way, ?you call china a rare country, LMFAO which are you dumb or stupid. Theres over a billion people in that country. ?Which happens to be 1/6 the population of the entire world.
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« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2005, 05:39:27 PM »

Axl stated in the Loder interview that he picked the name Chinese Democracy because he thought it sounded cool.? There is no great mystery behind the name choice.


One of Axl's first shows back with the new band was in China, so it must have a special meaning for him. He even displayed the album cover and dropped red/white confetti.
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« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2005, 06:00:49 PM »

There has been a bar called Guns N Roses in singapore, one in Ho Chi Minh too for a long time.

Some of the asian culture is fascinating and Axl was always described as a very cultured individual. Maybe he finds some peace into it. Who knows ?
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« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2005, 06:03:26 PM »

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=28

Loder: You're going to call this album "Chinese Democracy." What is the meaning of that, since there is no Chinese democracy, of course?

Rose: Well, there's a lot of Chinese democracy movements, and it's something that there's a lot of talk about, and it's something that will be nice to see. It could also just be like an ironic statement. I don't know, I just like the sound of it.
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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2005, 07:48:25 PM »

  If you listen to some of Axl's rants from old shows, he's always been about not letting anybody keep you down.  When you look at Communist China, you get over a BILLION people being repressed and kept down.  It's so bad that alot of folks over there have just learned to accept that the government will decide what is acceptable for each person to hear, see, think, etc.  All tv, radio, internet, etc. is monitored and censored.  "Chinese" Democracy is a paradox. 

  So is this to try and get more fame?  Absolutely not.  If you look at the situation with evangelical christians here in the United States, who are trying to implement more stringent censorship and control via "decency" laws, it doesn't take a genius to see the potential nightmare scenario in our own backyards.  "Chinese" Democracy could be coming soon to any of our backyards...if we're not careful.

  Plus, remember, it's just an album/song title.  The CD song (to me) demonstrates Axl's ability to write songs from a personal level, and not have to hit you over the head with a political message from high atop a celebrity soapbox.   ok 

   

 
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« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2005, 07:51:27 PM »

Wasn't he really taken with the "Kudan" film.
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« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2005, 09:11:19 PM »

he wrote the song.. after watching the movie...
but the name.. is nothing about politics.. he said he choose it cuz he like it...
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« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2005, 10:06:25 PM »

he wrote the song.. after watching the movie...
but the name.. is nothing about politics.. he said he choose it cuz he like it...



Pepe666, I hate to burst your bubble.  If you think that movie isn't about "politics" here's one of Webster's definitions of political:  involved or charged or concerned with acts against a government or a political system.   The film Kundun is actually described as a political drama.  Do you know what the film is about?  The Chinese Army forces the Dalai Lama out of Tibet...and that's just part of it. 

I swear I remember a thread arguing this same point about CD being "political."  Again, I am sticking to my opinion that Axl aint dumb enough to take sides on specific issues...that alienates part of the audience. 

The name Chinese Democracy is a tragic paradox.  Do you honestly believe he'd watch this political drama, get inspired by the movie, and as a result, create music that has no political ideals involved?  Like I said, he won't slam you over the head one way or the other, he'll provide lyrics and vocals that will be thought-provoking and allow you to identify with more general themes like pain, frustration, love, fear, and what all of us pursue in our lives...enlightenment. 

Now I'm going to go have a beautiful mixed drink!   peace       
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« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2005, 10:15:46 PM »

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=28

Loder: You're going to call this album "Chinese Democracy." What is the meaning of that, since there is no Chinese democracy, of course?

Rose: Well, there's a lot of Chinese democracy movements, and it's something that there's a lot of talk about, and it's something that will be nice to see. It could also just be like an ironic statement. I don't know, I just like the sound of it.


Oh ok   Undecided  , Axl was right to say that but why didn't he call his album Cuban Democracy then? That poor country is fucking close to his own country, a lot of Cubans have immigratin? to the u.s.a after all this fucking time so i do think Axl has a mysterious reason to speak 'bout that rare country which's too fucking far away from his Yankee land!  hihi?
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« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2005, 10:18:11 PM »

If you listen to the lyrics in CD though there are only like 2 references to China. I'm not saying Axl has no interest in Chinese culture or the politics but I always thought the title and song chinese democracy were just one big metaphor for the album itself.
The lyrics to the song definately seem to be more about the album CD than actual Democracy in China, when Axl sings 'It would take a lot more time than you, have got for masturbation', I always thought that was Axl's way of answering critics who always ask 'How long is this fucking album gonna take?'. Again when Axl sings 'It don't really matter, guess i'll keep this to myself/leave this thing to somebody else', I took that as 'Fuck you (To the haters) I don't have to release this album, I'll keep this shit to myself and leave making music to the other bands out now'. HAve I completely misinterpreted these lyrics or does anyone agree?
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