Sorry about CITR

[t800 series]

Hallo Gunners.
I am very sorry about the Catcher in The Rye story.
My contact at Universal was joking with me during
a bachelor party.

He called me yesterday and said it was a joke since he knew I like Guns so much.

The sad part is that there is nothing scheduled with Guns at all.
Forget a record within the next 6 months!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not even GH 2.

Again I am sorry.

Best regards/Johan

your universal contact my ass you probly made that shit up.

[McGann]

your universal contact my ass you probly made that shit up.

Johan's history shows
Some quite accurate info.
You should check it out.

Splash

/Mike

[madagas]

Neemo, this is not different at all than 2 years ago when Gh was scheduled for x-mas of 03. It was pulled and released a few months later when Axl failed to deliver an album. EXACT same situation as now. I anticipate a Best Of in the next few months once Axl fails to deliver again. Not ot be a dork...but, "once bitten twice shy!"

[Neemo]

Neemo, this is not different at all than 2 years ago when Gh was scheduled for x-mas of 03. It was pulled and released a few months later when Axl failed to deliver an album. EXACT same situation as now.

I'm crossing my fingers for Axl delivering this time though

Not ot be a dork...but, "once bitten twice shy!"

"my, my, my" (the 80's were great weren't they? )

[Luigi]

You really think I'm leaving or giving up, "NEVER" frustrated and confused,"GUILTY"  The battle goes on until the last man stands. I will march on

[Nytunz]

You really think I'm leaving or giving up, "NEVER" frustrated and confused,"GUILTY"? The battle goes on until the last man stands. I will march on

Thats the Spirit 

[Luigi]

  thanks,

[ppbebe]

Neemo, this is not different at all than 2 years ago when Gh was scheduled for x-mas of 03. It was pulled and released a few months later when Axl failed to deliver an album. EXACT same situation as now.

Madagas I say it again. don't be fooled by 'the insiders'.

Whether a president of some garbage company, radio people or tour crew, especially when anonymous, they'd say only what they want us to believe, in between some trivial inside stories that make their 2cents specious.

Expect only propaganda from them. Unlike the band members, they don't give a shit about the fans.

[Lord Kayoss]

As have I - many times as well.?

But I don't even believe the "GN'R members".? Nothing they've ever said has come to fruition either.?

Again - don't believe a word from anyone until it comes from The Man himself.? At least when he said "You'll see it, (but) I don't know if 'soon' is the word..." he wasn't bullshitting.

Now he says there won't even be a GH2 when the rest of the world is buzzing about it.? Time to step down, Guy.? Your 15 mins are over.

If you don't trust in the Band members, what is the point in your waiting?

I don't trust anyone but Axl. ?When he gives a specific release date I'll believe it. ?That's what I'm waiting for.

I pay no attention to the never-ending "it's coming very very very very very soon" remarks everyone else makes. ?What's the point of being let down over and over again? ?You will eventually get to the point where you blow off all comments and predictions immediately after reading them. ?Works for me.

[ppbebe]

well love is blind.  I can quote many pieces of evidence that what Axl hoped hasn't come more truer than what the other members hoped?however it's not the point.
There's a big difference between believing someone and believing in him.

Obviously, something didn't work so well in each case.
It hasn't realized YET for reasons best known to oneself.

[killingvector]

I like to be positive about everything but I'm sorry guys, I'm starting to now personally think GNR is dead regardless of what Axl ends up releasing. I think the guy is sick and tired of working, think about it, he dosen't really have to work another day in his life, $$$ he's made it $$$$, being on the road is fuck up,  that's a shitty life. Why go back to that? I don't know people maybe its time to say goodbye      

It would depend on the leverage the label has with Axl. Does he owe them another album? Could they recoup production costs through litigation? Usually the label will eat the production costs but so much has been spent, they may put the screws to Axl to squeeze out the album. He may very well not have a choice but go forward.

I really hope your assessment of Axl Rose is off target because such inaction would be the biggest F U to the fanbase who have waited for this project to land in its own geologic time scale.

[jimmythegent]

I wouldnt be too quick to automatically discredit this guy

Things change as we know

[younggunner]

this guy like most are fools. case closed. he knows jack shit. any1 can speculate. actually with gnr its very easy

[jimmythegent]

this guy like most are fools. case closed. he knows jack shit. any1 can speculate. actually with gnr its very easy

what about the fact that he gave pretty specific info in the past that turned out true?
is it a case of shooting the messenger and us taking our frustrations on the wrong parties?

[Thorazine Shuffle]

this guy like most are fools. case closed. he knows jack shit. any1 can speculate. actually with gnr its very easy

what about the fact that he gave pretty specific info in the past that turned out true?
is it a case of shooting the messenger and us taking our frustrations on the wrong parties?

Good point.  So if you want to believe this guy, then you must believe what his last post read is true.  That there is nothing at all on the horizon within the next 6 months.  Thats much more plausable than a single on December 8th.

[jimmythegent]

this guy like most are fools. case closed. he knows jack shit. any1 can speculate. actually with gnr its very easy

what about the fact that he gave pretty specific info in the past that turned out true?
is it a case of shooting the messenger and us taking our frustrations on the wrong parties?

Good point.? So if you want to believe this guy, then you must believe what his last post read is true.? That there is nothing at all on the horizon within the next 6 months.? Thats much more plausable than a single on December 8th.

not only that, he made the effort to post a reasonable, well explained retraction - if he was messing around, why would he feel the need to do that?

[-Jack-]

I predict there will be announcement concerning Chinese Democracy within the next 2 years. An insider told me 

 

[jimmythegent]

I predict there will be announcement concerning Chinese Democracy within the next 2 years. An insider told me?

 

thanks for adding such valuable insight to the discussion

[icpillusions]

I predict there will be announcement concerning Chinese Democracy within the next 2 years. An insider told me?

 

wow you're way off.? Next 10 years or maybe way down the line when Axl and the rest are long dead. Then CD will be released as a tribute album or a forgotton hits album. It shall be released!