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« on: November 26, 2005, 10:10:27 PM »

after all these years it didn't happen and all the guys he recruited that stayed faithfull wound up getting zero out of their wait?? Anything is possible, I wanted to hear since most of us are axl fans if that would change your feeling towards the man..?? Just food for thought, just as the album can come out early 2006 it also might not... Discuss because I am curious, I know people have developed feelings towards new member
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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2005, 10:12:22 PM »

no.
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2005, 10:27:14 PM »

I can liken this story to Kurt Angle of WWE. He feels that he needs to carry on wrestling classics(despite his mounting neck and body trouble) to be remembered as a legend even though he has done enough.

I feel Axl has done enough to be remembered as one of the best already. So i kind of feel.............No i wouldnt be angry. It's weird.

Even if it isn't released the whole "i wonder what it would have been like" would still stay with me.
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2005, 10:30:25 PM »

No I wouldnt. If he felt like he couldnt do it anymore or he didnt want to do it anymore then thats what he wants. Its not like he owes me anything.
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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2005, 10:30:40 PM »

Personally Id be angry.. it wouldn't be fair to the fans or the band. I'd still respect Axl's old legacy... but to me he'd lose alot of his luster

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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2005, 10:32:14 PM »

No.
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2005, 10:32:37 PM »

I don't mean angry at hi because he didn't give you a product, but what baout the band members that he promised things to that stuck by him only for him to just walk away.. That's what I was talking about, consideration for your band members who waited so patiently and always backed the project
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2005, 10:34:39 PM »

Ah...................if i was actually in the band, i'd be pissed for sure.
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2005, 10:44:07 PM »

I guess that's the chance you take when you  join a band led by Axl Rose.  I would not be angry.  I think I'd have more respect for him if he just gave it up instead of stringing people along for years, both bandmembers & fans.   
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2005, 10:48:09 PM »

I wouldn't be angry.

As for the bandmates, they seem to have other projects and haven't voiced any frustration so far.. I honestly don't think they mind either way.
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2005, 11:18:32 PM »

 I would be angry because he led us on all these years believing an album was coming. But if he feels this CD isn't good enough, or will tarnish the GNR legacy, then he should give up and announce it to us fans.
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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2005, 12:13:20 AM »

 :rant:FUCK YES rant
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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2005, 01:05:31 AM »

Let me make something clear.. in my last post I said I'd be pissed.. but it would be different if he said "It's not good enough.. I dont want to tarnish the GN'R legacy, im sorry for leading you guys on." If he said that.. and was honest.. I would be ok. (Even then though.. why not release an "Axl Rose" album?)

On the other hand.. if it was just some press release.. or him just never saying anything (assuming that we'd eventually assume it wasnt coming out).. then id be angry.

But im not worried about any of this.. because Chinese Democracy WILL come out. And it WILL be worthy of the GN'R legacy.


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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2005, 04:32:47 AM »

I don't think he'd ever admit that he didn't want to tarnish the GN'R legacy with the feeling that Chinese Democracy was a mediocre album.  By doing so he'd be saying that the former band was better than the current line-up.  Don't see that happening because Axl seems to project the feeling that his new version of GN'R has evolved from the older days and is way more multi-dimensional which subsequently means he thinks it's better now.  In his mind he probably feels he could release an album with nothing but static on it and it'd blow away anything he did with Slash and Co.  The problem for him is releasing an album that's up to HIS standards (not the old lineup's) and one he feels he put his absolute best effort into.  If and when he ever gets to that point, we'll see Chinese Democracy.
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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2005, 04:55:18 AM »

Well, since I do not think it will ever come out, no I would not be angry.  It is what I expect of Axl. 
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« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2005, 05:49:02 AM »

It appears he may have already given up on this, he hasn't told us anything to the contrary has he? The band members may be saying otherwise but at the end of the day it's all up to Axl, and he hasnt told us jack since March 2004 at which time he said we would get an announcement in a few months. It's the not knowing part which is frustrating and angers a lot of people, if he just came out and told us one way or the other at least we would know. I must say though, yes I would be extremely dissapointed if he has given up on the project because from what we heard it had amazing potential. I would always love Axl for what he has done for Rock music but would be angry that he had the chance to possibly save the current state of the genre and threw it away because of his unrealistic perfectionism.

While we're on the subject of why the album has taken so long, I really think the feedback from the 2002 shows was a blow to him, obviously there were a lot of good things said but I think Axl may have had a problem with some of the criticism especially people saying 'The new songs sound dated', I don't agree with that statement but that would be enough to send Axl back in the studio for another 3 years to update and add to them.
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« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2005, 05:50:23 AM »

I think Vasoline and Kayoss both make good points. I don't believe Axl will ever 'give up', but we may never see the album or hear from him again, which I think will be dissapointing. Its not something I would get angry about (who the hell could I be angry with?), but at the same time I think we should be given a taste of what we could have had...

Anyway, there's been so much $$$ put into this, I don't think Axl can give up on this project.
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« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2005, 06:31:25 AM »

i'd be pissed off!!!
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« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2005, 06:32:45 AM »

I think if Axl wants to give it all up to do whatever the hell he wants, fair play to him.

He helped create 'AFD', and for that alone we should be grateful.
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« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2005, 08:46:03 AM »

Well if even if he did give up...Its good to have closure. I'd rather know it wasn't coming out than wait for years on end, stringing on tiny bits of information and rumours and supposed release dates
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