Beautiful Disease Petition *2 WEEKS LEFT*

[metallex78]

Thats one thing, no matter how much anyone might enjoy Believe In Me (which I completely understand) theres no denying Duff's writing and performance is infinately better on his later work.? And IMO Beautiful Disease is the best of the lot.

Actually, there is denying it.? I like the writing and performance on Believe In Me better.?

I agree with Booker here. I just dont understand why everyone has to keep referring to Believe in Me as a "drunken mess". Did a journalist or band member call it that, so now everyone has to say it? I'm assuming someone famous said it for it to become so cliche.

I want some of you people to point out the examples of this "drunken mess". No cliches, just some facts. He obviously slurs pretty bad during 'Lonely Tonight', but thats not enough to give this great album such a harsh review.

If this album is a drunken mess, then so is every GNR album as well, because they were all pretty much alcoholics and drug addicts at some point.

I call it a "drunken mess", because to me, that's what it sounds like. Not what some journalist wrote.

I'll admit, it has some moments where it shines, but elsewhere the lyrics are laughable and directionless.

"I played my guitar til my dick got hard" is just an example of what I'm talking about.

If some of you like it, fair enough, but I think Beautiful Disease is leaps and bounds above that album.

[badapple81]

And lets face it, he probably was drunk! 

[Sillything]

BD is the best his done on his own. And his own are all better then Velvet Revolver

[tomass74]

I call it a "drunken mess", because to me, that's what it sounds like. Not what some journalist wrote.

I'll admit, it has some moments where it shines, but elsewhere the lyrics are laughable and directionless.

"" is just an example of what I'm talking about.

If some of you like it, fair enough, but I think Beautiful Disease is leaps and bounds above that album.

Dude, you forgot the next line... "I played my guitar til my dick got hard, I FUCKED THAT BITCH NIGHT AND DAY!"..  That rocks!!! Not too mention Jeff BEck does the guitars.

[Just_Me]

"Saw your gaze
It put me in a haze
It was amazing
I saw a little girl
Put me in a whirl
Just left me gazing"
 

And his singing in general is pretty poor compared to the later stuff.? Loney Tonite is a perfect example.? He just sounds a mess.

But its also...I don't really know how to describe it in a way that'll make sense to everyone but it just sounds 'flat' to me.? He just couldn't get across the depth of emotion thats so evident in BD.? Its like the audio equivilent of going to see a band who play great but just stand there and don't really seem into the gig.? He sounds too out of it to really get into the songs.

As I said its still a good album, I own it and listen to it on a regular basis and I generally enjoy it.  But IMO its not in the same leauge as Beautiful Disease.  Its like the diffrence between AFD and UYI.

[Butch Français]

Thats one thing, no matter how much anyone might enjoy Believe In Me (which I completely understand) theres no denying Duff's writing and performance is infinately better on his later work.  And IMO Beautiful Disease is the best of the lot.

Actually, there is denying it.  I like the writing and performance on Believe In Me better. 

I agree with Booker here. I just dont understand why everyone has to keep referring to Believe in Me as a "drunken mess". Did a journalist or band member call it that, so now everyone has to say it? I'm assuming someone famous said it for it to become so cliche.

I want some of you people to point out the examples of this "drunken mess". No cliches, just some facts. He obviously slurs pretty bad during 'Lonely Tonight', but thats not enough to give this great album such a harsh review.

If this album is a drunken mess, then so is every GNR album as well, because they were all pretty much alcoholics and drug addicts at some point.

I call it a "drunken mess", because to me, that's what it sounds like. Not what some journalist wrote.

I'll admit, it has some moments where it shines, but elsewhere the lyrics are laughable and directionless.

"I played my guitar til my dick got hard" is just an example of what I'm talking about.

If some of you like it, fair enough, but I think Beautiful Disease is leaps and bounds above that album.

I agree. he sounds pretty horrible on 'Believe In Me'...he was quite a mess at the time. and the lyrics ain't real good.
'Beautiful Disease' on the other hand is a brilliant album!

[jimmythegent]

Each to their own, but Believe in Me is a drunken babbling mess

Exactly why I like it.? Thats how most punk rock records should sound.? Its sloppy and raunchy, yet well-written and well-played.? It sounds exactly as you would expect a product of its environment to sound - drunken, hectic and self-indulgent.? A damn fine, veritable punk rock album.

punk? I dont recall much about it sounding punk? (granted, its been over a decade since I listened to it)
if memory serves, it was bloated pop-rock?? 

[tomass74]

Damn, I still think Believe in me is pretty damn cool.. I mean I don't listen to it often but I bust it out about every year or so maybe...

[Booker Floyd]

punk? I dont recall much about it sounding punk? (granted, its been over a decade since I listened to it)
if memory serves, it was bloated pop-rock?? 

Its obviously indebted to Johnny Thunders' music, and I liken it to one of his albums.  Sure, theres a few semi-sappy ballads, but the overall spirit of the album is relatively loose and reckless.  It was thrown together by a wasted, almost tuneless, gravel-voiced bassist who played many of the instruments and while it might not sound exactly like what some consider "punk rock," I believe it is in its attitude and approach. 

Bloated?  Theres thirteen songs and not one over 5 minutes long.  I dont hear pop-rock either.  Theres some ballads - so what?  The album rocks through and through.  If one disagrees, then I dont know what else to tell him.

[tomass74]

"Belive In Me"  is alot more punk than that poser crap they call punk these days....

[jimmythegent]

punk? I dont recall much about it sounding punk? (granted, its been over a decade since I listened to it)
if memory serves, it was bloated pop-rock???

Its obviously indebted to Johnny Thunders' music, and I liken it to one of his albums.? Sure, theres a few semi-sappy ballads, but the overall spirit of the album is relatively loose and reckless.? It was thrown together by a wasted, almost tuneless, gravel-voiced bassist who played many of the instruments and while it might not sound exactly like what some consider "punk rock," I believe it is in its attitude and approach.?

Bloated?? Theres thirteen songs and not one over 5 minutes long.? I dont hear pop-rock either.? Theres some ballads - so what?? The album rocks through and through.? If one disagrees, then I dont know what else to tell him.

fair enuff, I see what youre saying to a point, although I disagree fundamentally that the album rocks. I think it is a very average affair, but that is of course subjective

I meant bloated not so much in length of songs or album, more so some of the musical ideas. Perhaps it subconciously slipped in because Duff himself was bloated at the time

As far as ballads go, I have nothing against em at all. Just, the type of ballads they are, to me, are very generic and under developed.